Friday, June 10, 2005

UEP housing and land is mortaged

UEP is worth Millions Dollars. This land was free and clear. When Warren Jeffs in priesthood meeting had all the elders stand and vote to change the UEP Trust..he paved the way to be able to mortage the land and buildings. That was 5 or so years ago. The UEP was to protect the FLDS way of life. Now the land from Perry Barlows to Bob Steeds is mortgaged. It is not the only parcel! Even if you have "life estate" you could have the reaper on you doorstep. Lyle Jeffs, William Jessop, Bishop Will, Sam Allred, Nephi Allred, Wendell Nielson, and others are selling out the land from under your house. When Warren Jeffs stops making the mortgage payment..there are going to be alot of displaced families. Perry Barlow, Don Barlow, Alma Barlow Jr., Richard Timpson, Alan Barlow, Anthus Barlow, Dan Timpson, Terrel Dutson, Glen Barlow, George Barlow, James Broadbent, (or whoever is there now) and all the others in that area (CC) better stop making their contributions and start saving up for a down payment (on the house they built and live in).

Do you see a pattern in the businesses and church? Milk it for all its worth, Declare Bankruptcy and run from it.

David Allred, Rosa Barlow Allred, Guy Allred are great "front line" people for Warren Jeffs, although they maybe ahead of him on a few steps...but David has allways had a dream for power and control..look at what he is doing with the cottage workers doing Snugzs, making slaves out of them. It's a great family project but look at what it is really doing to the family. Has you forgiven Allco all the past pay they can't pay you? Have you seen the BMW David Allred drives. Or the house in Henderson? or that the YFZ and the ranch in Colorado is in David's name and he could pull the carpet out from under Warren.

Hurray for those who don't contribute, who do hold on their family and house, and don't work for slave labor.

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

WOW rumor, I like your style, keep it comin my friend!!!

Men In Black said...

There is half an answer, for an ounce of prevention! The UCC or Uniform Commercial Code of 1934. The law recognized in 150 countries and all 50 US states! You register and record a mechanics lien for the improvements to the land. It clouds the title so that another court proceeding is required in order to take or clear title.

I could not be sure Lenore Holm would win in court do to a history in the local courts, so you will find a lien registered in Arizona on the land beneath in her synerio. It does not guarantee any thing other than another day in court, but with the "unjust enrichment" clause such claim is favorable.

You calculate a value placed on labor and materials, don't be greedy it should be less than the value of the property that includes the land. If a bank or morgage holder tries to evict you, they have to settle or release the lien before resale and possession.

Chop-chop, and be quick about it! You can file in Washington state with same day service by or via fax. With your reciept, file next in Washington or Mohave County, followed by the state of the same. Arizona has something like 200,000 plus such claims, its seen as insurance only.

If someone has to pay for the improvements you made, then at minimum you have seed money to start over. It cost me the fee's and two 5 pound bags of Costco M & M's to get this filed. A friend in Hurricane has had the experience and helped me with Lenore's case. He's not connected to this and usually works for more than M&M's!

MIB

Anonymous said...

Warren and his lap dogs have secretly bought land and fancy houses all over the West. Reporters and investigators have only stumbled across some of them, like the spread in Mancos Colorado and a couple of the places in Idaho and Nevada like Mesquite and Henderson and Caliente. Others, like the ranch in Wyoming are still pretty much under the radar. And still others are totally hidden. Anyone know who is listed as the owner of the Wyoming property? Some say Jerald Williams, but I'm not so sure about that.

Anonymous said...

Adverse possession means being legally granted the title to real estate by "possessing" it for a considerable time. The individual trying to claim adverse possession to land that someone else already owns must have actual possession of it that is open, notorious, exclusive and adverse to the claims of other persons to the title. Such possession must be total, exclusive, and cannot be hidden but must be open and notorious.

Anonymous said...

Such possession must be total, exclusive, and cannot be hidden but must be open and notorious.


Like those living in homes they built on trust lands?

A Nexus search in 2000 had 9 homes in Uncle Rulon's name. Its unclear how these were transfered after Warren and Leroy began making changes.

Anonymous said...

Man! When are the people going to wake up and realize what' going on? It's not fair!!!

Anonymous said...

Its easier to complain than roll up your sleeves and fight. From reading these posts, MIB appears to be offering help, but hated for offering it? This is the internet, obviously every one here has a computer and you have heard of GOOGLE! The UCC Arizona Web site is here;

http://www.azsos.gov/business_services/ucc/2001/Uniform_Commerical_Code.htm

Search it and disprove this guy you love to hate. So far replies seem to muddy the water, but so far searching this guys quotes seem accurate. If I were law enforcement I would be more interested in the anonymous, than someone who signs his name.

I GOOGLE searched him and it appears he has more interest than this site alone.

If he's nothing but hot air, why is he suggesting property protection measures with the UCC for you?



CEO

Anonymous said...

You can't fire me. I quit.

Anonymous said...

MIB

I have the stats on Colorado City and Hildale for tax dollars spent, what about what Canada spends? I'm not a rocket scientist, but you sell on ebay according to GOOGLE, it explains why you can post day and night.

CEO

By the way, did you hear the rumor today about Warren?

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous 1:41
"A Nexus search in 2000 had 9 homes in Uncle Rulon's name. Its unclear how these were transfered after Warren and Leroy began making changes."

WHAT ABOUT UNCLE FRED JESSOP. How much property was in his name and where is it now?

Can you Nexus search that, it is probably staggering. Since he is dead who controls his assets?

Men In Black said...

I've been discovered! "knock on Wood" ebay, ra! ra! 7 years later, 40,000 items sold, with a feedback rating over 11,000 See CEO's aren't so different!

Try Robert Matas at the Globe & Mail newspaper, they have reported on Bountiful and will know the numbers.

The Globe and Mail
444 Front Street West,
Toronto, Ontario,
M5V 2S9

The main telephone number is 1 416 585-5000

Roberts email is;
rmatas@globeandmail.ca

Per Warren, I heard the rumor, but can not yet confirm it.

Good Luck!

MIB

Anonymous said...

What about Fred Jessops land holdings?

CEO

Men In Black said...

The NEXUS search that yielded the info on Rulon was done by Robert Gehrke then of Associated Press in SLC. He relocated with AP ro Washington DC a few years ago, now working for the SLC Trib, but out of Washington DC. I'd suggest a new search or checking with Robert as to that older file. At the time as I recall, Warren had 3 properties in his name as well. This would of been late 2000 or early 2001.

Robert is at;

rgehrke@sltrib.com

Good Luck!
MIB

Anonymous said...

Here's a sampling of the land owned by the UEP in care of Fred M. Jessop in 2004. This is only taken from the Washington County Tax assessor's web site. Just imagine if he owned land in another county !!!

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66509
Serial Number :: HD-15
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02
Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 47.27
Taxable Value 2004 :: $1,081,660
Market Value 2004 :: $1,957,401
Property Taxes 2003 :: $15,039.13

Legal Description ::
BEG AT A PT W 20 RDS FM NE COR LOT 3 SEC
34 T43S R10W SLM & RN TH S 43.36 RDS TH
W 14.79 RDS TH S 10.84 RDS TH W 17.73
RDS TH N 54.20 RDS TH E 32.52 RDS TO BEG
ALSO ALL OF LOT 4

_____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66483
Serial Number :: HD-13
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN A TRUST
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02
Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 5.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $306,275
Market Value 2004 :: $500,174
Property Taxes 2003 :: $3,116.97

Legal Description ::

BEG AT NW COR LOT 3 SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM
& RN TH E 21.33 RDS TH S 37.44 RDS TH W
21.33 RDS TH N 37.44 RDS TO BEG
__________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66475
Serial Number :: HD-12
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 20.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $554,790
Market Value 2004 :: $993,244
Property Taxes 2003 :: $8,174.83

Legal Description ::

W 1/2 SE 1/4 NW 1/4 SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM
________________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 61807
Serial Number :: HD-16
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 40.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $1,062,250
Market Value 2004 :: $1,884,556
Property Taxes 2003 :: $15,310.77

Legal Description ::

W 1/2 W 1/2 NW 1/4 SEC 35 T43S R10W SLM
_______________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 147994
Serial Number :: HD-178-A-2
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 89.50
Taxable Value 2004 :: $750
Market Value 2004 :: $49,140
Property Taxes 2003 :: $7.01

Legal Description ::

BEG AT A PT WHICH IS 165 FT W OF 1/4
COR COMMON TO SECS. 23 & 26, T43S R10W
SLM & RN TH S 31*W 323 FT; TH S 10* W
362 FT TH S 23* E 460 FT; TH S 7*E 300
FT; TH S 13* W 375 FT; TH S 29* W 680
FT; TH S 35* W 840 FT; TH S 56* W 850
FT; TH S 79* W 590 FT; TH S 495 FT; TH
W 230 FT; TH N 1320 FT TO QUARTER COR
SEC 26; TH E 1320 FT; TH N 2640 FT; TH
E 1155 FT TO BEG
_____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66442
Serial Number :: HD-10
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 5.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $409,575
Market Value 2004 :: $744,687
Property Taxes 2003 :: $6,035.09

Legal Description ::

BEG AT SW COR LOT 3 SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM
& RN TH E 21.33 RDS TH N 37.44 RDS TH W
21.33 RDS TH S 37.44 RDS TO BEG
_____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66491
Serial Number :: HD-14
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 9.35
Taxable Value 2004 :: $581,610
Market Value 2004 :: $1,050,411
Property Taxes 2003 :: $8,585.42

Legal Description ::

E 1/4 OF LOT 2 SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM
____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 147978
Serial Number :: HD-177
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 4.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $750
Market Value 2004 :: $6,300
Property Taxes 2003 :: $7.01

Legal Description ::

BEG 660 FT E OF SW COR OF SW1/4SW1/4
OF SEC 26 T43S R10W SLM & RUN TH E
165 FT; TH N 1056 FT; TH NWLY APPROX.
181 FT TO W LN OF E1/2SW1/4SW1/4; TH
S 1120 FT TO PT OF BEG
______________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66350
Serial Number :: HD-2
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 18.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $263,975
Market Value 2004 :: $437,859
Property Taxes 2003 :: $3,768.18

Legal Description ::

BEG AT SW COR SW 1/4 SW 1/4 SEC 26 T43S
R10W SLM & RN TH E 660 FT TH N 1120 FT
TH NWLY TO NW COR OF SW 1/4 SW 1/4 TH S
1320 FT TO PT OF BEG
__________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66368
Serial Number :: HD-3
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 120.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $79,725
Market Value 2004 :: $177,478
Property Taxes 2003 :: $1,174.75

Legal Description ::

N 1/2 SE 1/4 SE 1/4 SE 1/4 SEC 27 T43S
R10W SLM
___________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66376
Serial Number :: HD-4-A
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Situs Address ::

350 W UZONA

Acres :: 34.79
Taxable Value 2004 :: $1,661,060
Market Value 2004 :: $2,990,680
Property Taxes 2003 :: $22,354.91

Legal Description ::

SECTL LOT 1 SEC 33 T43S R10W SLM. LESS:
2.5 AC SOLD TO JOHN REED LAURITZEN
___________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66384
Serial Number :: HD-4-B
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 2.50
Taxable Value 2004 :: $9,185
Market Value 2004 :: $9,188
Property Taxes 2003 :: $135.34

Legal Description ::

BEG AT A PT 931.9 FT S & 890 FT W OF 1/4
COR COM TO SECS 33 & 34 T43S R10W SLM &
RN TH W 295 FT 3 IN; TH S 300 FT TO ST
LN; TH E ALG ST LN 295 FT 3 IN; TH N 300
FT TO POB
_______________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66392
Serial Number :: HD-5
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 1.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $46,530
Market Value 2004 :: $84,601
Property Taxes 2003 :: $517.94

Legal Description ::

BEG 40 RDS W OF SE COR OF LOT 2 SEC 34
T43S R10W SLM TH N 16 RDS TH W 10 RDS TH
S 16 RDS TH E 10 RDS TO BEG
____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66400
Serial Number :: HD-6
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 40.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $2,829,635
Market Value 2004 :: $4,845,937
Property Taxes 2003 :: $36,661.42

Legal Description ::

SE 1/4 NE 1/4 SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM
____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66426
Serial Number :: HD-8
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Situs Address ::

420 E JESSOP

Acres :: 64.10
Taxable Value 2004 :: $1,676,540
Market Value 2004 :: $2,818,129
Property Taxes 2003 :: $25,665.72

Legal Description ::

BEG AT N 1/4 COR SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM &
RN TH E 2115 FT TH S 1320 FT TH W 2115
FT TH N 1320 FT TO BEG
_____________________________________

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 66434
Serial Number :: HD-9
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 15.90
Taxable Value 2004 :: $380,680
Market Value 2004 :: $680,272
Property Taxes 2003 :: $4,082.70

Legal Description ::

BEG AT NE COR SEC 34 T43S R10W SLM & RN
TH S 1320 FT TH W 525 FT TH N 1320 FT TH
E 525 FT TO BEG

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:39 PM

I forgot about looking there. Looks like a big chuck of Hildale. Wonder who replaced Uncle Fred as caretaker?

Anonymous said...

OOPS. I missed one. I also see that the 2005 tax valuation is now posted for the Washington County Tax Assessor. What I posted above is old - its from 2004. SORRY.

If you are curious, then go to the Washington County web site and search for yourself and compare the differences between 2004 and 2005. http://www.washco.state.ut.us/index.php?page=taxes⊂=taxsearch

The one I missed is below.

Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 402308
Serial Number :: HD-0-3-33-301
Owner :: JESSOP FRED M TR
In Care Of :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Situs Address ::

725 N OAK

Acres :: 37.58
Taxable Value 2005 :: $1,462,745
Market Value 2005 :: $2,584,416
Property Taxes 2004 :: $14,537.15

Legal Description ::

LOT 3 SEC 33 T43S R10W SLM
__________________________________________

For instance, this one is worth a LOT more this year than it was last year. But LOOK the - property taxes are lower than they were last year. HUH????? Only in Hildale do things work this way. Property value goes up - property taxes go down. Go figure.

Taxable Value 2005 :: $1,229,995
Market Value 2005 :: $2,189,553
Property Taxes 2004 ::$12,215.88


Washington County Taxroll Account Detail

Account Number :: 61807
Serial Number :: HD-16
Owner :: UNITED EFFORT PLAN
In Care Of :: JESSOP FRED M
District Number :: 02

Mailing Address ::

PO BOX 840459
HILDALE, UT 84784

Acres :: 40.00
Taxable Value 2004 :: $1,062,250
Market Value 2004 :: $1,884,556
Property Taxes 2003 :: $15,310.77

Legal Description ::

W 1/2 W 1/2 NW 1/4 SEC 35 T43S R10W SLM
_______________________________________

Anonymous said...

In answer to 2:44 P.M. post:

Eighteen years ago 22 plaintiffs sued the trustees of the UEP for breach of fiduciary trust and other claims and won an unjust enrichment cause of action. Now, eighteen years later, you're wondering when people are going to wake up? If you didn't see this coming you were all fantasizing in neverland--now reality has overtaken you--but you can't say you weren't warned.

Anonymous said...

I'm in NV and I've been doing quite a bit of research on their local ties. It appears the Caliente properties have been sold. The only one who seems to still own is an Authur Blackmore, but I hear he's been booted out. Mesquite could get interesting, and I have no idea about a Henderson house. More info please!!!

onthestreet said...

UEP MORTGAGED???
America and Americans are mortgaged, lock, stock, and pork barrel. Now that's the bigger picture, and where all the problems are developing.

Anonymous said...

Straight Shot Say,
All of America being mortgaged has to do with WHAT? The was the UEP was twisted, perverted and just plain turned into a servant for corrupt leaders is the problem specifc to this. We can only pray that the Attorney Generals Offices in Utah, Arizona, and Texas are serious about sending in the backup needed to protect people who are victims in this mess.
Again your cryptic messages make me think you are more than one person, one of which is well educated in all the teachings of Mormonism, one who is addled and just plain streety, and one who is a pervert and won't leave Atar alone.
Will the real Street please stand up???
God save us all

onthestreet said...

All mortgaged: Has to do with, shall we say, paying the price that American and the wicked in CC have reeped. Yes, right, the UEP was twisted and perverted by leaders who finally had to be dumped for doing the twistings and the turnings against the counsels of the Lord. Why do you think Winston, Truman, and other UEP Trustees were dumped? And Warren had to proclaim: "You people are not worthy of a prophet," and he had to leave them in their demise.

Yes, "This is the problem specific to this," as you put it so well.
I'm so proud of you, little bumpkin, for at least skirting around the truth, instead of just skirting up someone's dress. That's one thing that got many of your pinkies burnt, little one.
Coprende?

Now my little cracker-jack, I hope that wasn't too cryptic for you, because I Am who I Am.

ATAR_i said...

OH Lordy - now Street thinks he's Jesus

"because I Am who I Am". <---notice the caps

onthestreet said...

No, just the sinner that Jesus is trying to save. That is me, or shall I-I-I say: I AM he.

Oh Lordy, now Tar is flipping more tar from her tar-bucket over someone just saying they are who they are. Lordy, Lordy.

Anonymous said...

Straight Shot Says,
Good Grief -- Only in very intimate moments have I EVER been called a little "cracker-jack"? Can it really be YOU!!
I wondered where you got to you cute little poopsy woopsy! Daddy's comin for ya baby!!
And you know me way too well to suggest I'd be awasten' any time peekin up anyones skirts -- I don't have as many womens as profit Warren but I have enough not to be needin enymore my streety poo!

My pinkies are fine you'll be glad to know and you truly need to be usin the Royal WE -- because I am still very certian you are at least four people. I recognize your words from when we were last together but other times you are like a stranger my sweet darlin'!But never you mind I am truly a people person and I'll just open up my heart for the other three.

Oh never mind -- I'll pick up all four of ya - the more the merrier and ya jus put a little more water in the soup and ya can't have too many MaMa's for the kiddies.
You'll have ta tell Warren he can't come though - I'm sure he'll be able to grapple with the dissapoinment and survive - But we'll be busy Streety - building the Kingdom.

The one Warren just finished wreaking.
That's a lot of homeless shelters buddy - it's like the one about the Statue of Christ in England that got it's hands blown off - instead of redoing his hands after the last bomb dropped the townspeople decided to put up this plaque.
"I have no hands but Yours"
If we work all day and all night for about 10 years maybe we'll beable to find and help all the innocents who have been sent away by WArren.
Giddy - up -- get ready darlin' I'm on my way.
God save us all.

ATAR_i said...

You know Straight Shot - YOUR RIGHT.

Street One is unintelligible
Stree Two is flirty
Street Three is almost normal
Street Four <----Haven't seen this personality (help me out)

Anonymous said...

street four- poet and don't know it but his street feet show it: the're longfellers

Anonymous said...

Straight Shot says,
Hey Atari, glad you picked up on that. Street four is the one who has picked up an astounding amount of fundamentalist mormon polygamous doctrine. As twisted as it gets he/she/them has managed to access scripture from the good old day and the Warren Jeffs days that really surprises me.

Not too many people, male or female, have ever studied that much -- never mind have access to the library of books you would have to have. So this is a bit of a connundrum! sp?

Mind you - all this studying and praying could defintely bring out the latent MPD in anyone.
Really scary - especially when he gets on the far extreme trying to flirty which is really just plain creepy/nasty/repulsive.
My last post might have been a bit over the top - but his condescending attitude got to me.
aaaaargggggghhh!
I won't let it happen again in this incarnation. LOL
This is truly a troubled individual.
God save us all.

Anonymous said...

Look at the IP Address and compare! God The Father, God The Son & Holy Ghost, 3 people on one computer maybe!

ATAR_i said...

Ummm, no.

onthestreet said...

ADMIN:

I'm trying to create my own thread on my own, so I can edit my thread as needed. I emailed you about this over a week ago, but no response. So I posted my request on several threads. Still no response. Did you die, are you okay?

Now I know that you emailed me back, and this is what you said:

Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0500
From: "Texas Polygamy"
Contact Details
Subject: Re: STREET

Sorry, only admn...or users with admin authority can delete posts. There is no need to copy and paste old posts simply to keep them at the top. If they are old posts, let them cycle off to the archives.
Weblog Admin

ADMIN: I'm not trying to "keep posts on top. How vain is that? Just need to be able to edit my own thread, you see?

Now, I clicked on the red blog logo in the upper left corner of the blog page, and got the next page, but there was no green plus sign. So I need admin authority to edit my own thread, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. How about it?

Hey, maybe you don't read all the threads, I don't know. Tell you what: I'll post this request on all the threads, so you'll see it.

Thank you Sir.
Street

onthestreet said...

ADMIN:

I TRIED TO MAKE MY NEW THREAD AGAIN. NO GREEN PLUS. TELL YOU WHAT, I WON'T POST THIS IN ALL THE TREADS, BUT I DO NEED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION SOMEHOW. I'LL LIMIT MYSELF TO EVERY OTHER THREAD.

THAT BETTER? HELL, TELL ME WHAT'S UP.

I'm trying to create my own thread on my own, so I can edit my thread as needed. I emailed you about this over a week ago, but no response. So I posted my request on several threads. Still no response. Did you die, are you okay?

Now I know that you emailed me back, and this is what you said:

Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0500
From: "Texas Polygamy"
Contact Details
Subject: Re: STREET

Sorry, only admn...or users with admin authority can delete posts. There is no need to copy and paste old posts simply to keep them at the top. If they are old posts, let them cycle off to the archives.
Weblog Admin

ADMIN: I'm not trying to "keep posts on top. How vain is that? Just need to be able to edit my own thread, you see?

Now, I clicked on the red blog logo in the upper left corner of the blog page, and got the next page, but there was no green plus sign. So I need admin authority to edit my own thread, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. How about it?

Hey, maybe you don't read all the threads, I don't know. Tell you what: I'll post this request on all the threads, so you'll see it.

Thank you Sir.
Street

Anonymous said...

In normal situations, a mortgage is not a bad thing. In fact, it is the way that most Americans develop wealth over their lifetimes.

Say for instance that you bought a house in 1965 for $20,000, and had a $17,000 mortgage on it. You only invested $3,000 of your own money, and your montly payments for the first five years were about the same as you would have paid for rent. For the next 25 years, your payment was less than you would have paid for rent, and by 1985, your payment would have become an insignificant part of your budget. In 1995, you had the house paid off, free and clear, and it would have been worth $150,000.00. For the last 10 years, you would have been paying no rent and no mortgage, and by now it's worth $350,000.00! Pretty good return on a $3,000.00 investment. If you haven't made other plans for your retirement, you can sell the house and the interest, plus Social Security will make for a comfortable retirement.

On the other hand, if you build something on somebody else's land and THEY mortgage it and boot you off, steal your house, wife (or wives) and children, alienate your friends and relatives, and tell you that you are going to hell for no good reason other than having a nice house and a pretty wife, then it is not a good thing.

I would think that if you are going to try polygamy or the United Order, you should only do it under the guidance of a Prophet of God. And the REAL Prophet doesn't seem to have any of that in the works.

ATAR_i said...

I love owning my land. My great grandfather was an imigrant from Europe in the early 1900's. He had nothing to his name. He worked hard so his son (my grandfather) would be well educated - he was.

My grandfather purchased a big piece of property in a then undeveloped area, sold off a few chunks to help him build his home, and then gave a piece to each of his sons after they were married. That legacy helped provide a better life to each sucessive generation.

It's taken several generations of hard work, but I'm so thankful to each generation for the contribution - I will continue the tradition.

onthestreet said...

UNCLE WARREN! HAPPY FATHERS DAY!

May God bless you forever with faithful children, as numerous as the stars of heaven.

rumor-has-it said...

I would guess that the UEP owns 2000 acres in Colorado City/Hildale. I have no idea how much is in Canada.
I know that Roundy's own their farm and last I knew Harkers did too.
Why would they have acres in Fred Jessops name or anything other than UEP?
Actually I would up that guess, because AMI Corp has 1300 acres for sale in Apple Valley area and that was UEP a year ago and is a front company for Warren Jeffs.
Does anyone have any concrete numbers of acres in CC or Canada?
The best bet would be tax roles

rumor-has-it said...

Can you imagine how much money has been saved by not have the mortages and real estate brokers with their fingers in the pie?

onthestreet said...

And now alot more filthy thingy's have their thingy's in the wringer.

onthestreet said...

That is to say, those clamoring for the UEP and world ownership. It's all still in the hands of the Master, so go ahead a peddle your papers.