Wednesday, August 30, 2006

New Photos of FLDS in Eldorado

Warren can probably manage the FLDS better now that he is in jail than a fugitive. Many mafia Dons have done so successfully in the past. No sign of construction slowing down. New slabs are being poured around warehouses. Two new homes are being constructed. New water lines are still being installed. Pit by dairy is intriguing. Fantastic hay crop considering we are getting 95 dollars a bale due to drought. Not as much interest from the media as I thought there would be. Cooler heads have prevailed and kudos go to our local sheriff David Doran for not trying to be like the feds that botched Waco. His Intel told him that Warren was not at the local compound. He has taken a lot of heat but not a shot was fired and not a child injured! Utah and Arizona owe this man an apology!

Chapter 2 of this Saga has just begun. Stay tuned and “ Keep Sweet”.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree, Utah and Arizonia government owe's a lot of apolagy's and not a shot was fired in Nevada either nor was any weapon's found. Texas has a freedom rights mission too. Maybe utah and Arizonia could incorperate some Texas law into there department! And maybe those Texas men who wear the white hats and treat woman like ladies could show Utah and Arizonia some manner's. Texas justace........that is how it was for me. and there is no doubt i am still defending the man. He is the one who defended me. I salute you both.......I think the men were bounty's. we call the men in uniform here cops, but i am thinking in texas they are bounty's. Very nice gentlemen to say the least. They smile too. Great big smiles. so one for you and one for me, and ten for him......

Anonymous said...

Excellent photos pilot, wonder how arrest of Jeffs will affect YFZ, will they abandon it, or continue on under Jeffs replacement?

Noticed on photo of Temple it appears that they are widening street on one side of temple, possible widening perhaps for parking?

The San Angelo paper reported that YFZ had applied for permission to store sewer/wastewater in a pit for use as irrigation water.
So IMO maybe that's the pit by Dairy. Appilcation for Pit

hydrolab said...

Interesting anon 9:14, quite interesting.

Let us all pray that everything in our very different worlds will be OK. The world these days is an everchanging place.

Thanks Pilot, great pics again. I was beginning to wonder if you lost your license... ;)

ThePilot said...

I got married in July and went to Puerto Vallarta for a week. Then came back and had to tear down plane for annual. Just got it put back together Sunday. I will try to do better. Not a whole lot going on at FLDS that's different other than the two new houses. Run-off pit by dairy may present some environmental issues. We got 3.5 inches or more of rain this week so the compound should green up and look a lot better soon....

giz2gaz said...

Mr. Pilot - you deserve an award for everything you've done to help us all keep aware of what's going on. My hat's off to you! And congrats on your wedding!

Anonymous said...

I agree with the Pilot and the poster @ 9:14PM.

Sheriff Dorans professional manner and knowledge of the situation is what helped lead to Warren Jeffs arrest.

Had he been intiminated by those sitting in Political offices and did as 'they' suggested it could have very well ended in violence. And obviously no arrest.

I remember the Gordon Kahl story. It ended in bloodshed. Shots were fired and lives lost.

Sheriff Doran - Good Job!!

note to the Pilot: I wish you and your wife many many happy years. And again thank-you for sharing your photos.

Walton aka Cooper

Anonymous said...

I find it amusing all the speculation whether the church is going to fall apart now that Warren is locked up. Did the church fall apart when Joseph and Hyrum were killed? Us Mormons tend to have the tenacity to overcome opstacles.

hydrolab said...

I am assuming the pit by the dairy will be used to control stormwater runoff from the dairy itself. YFZ officials have been encouraged to follow a waste management plan for their dairy with assistance through the Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board. Hopefully, they are doing just that. As far as the domestic sewage disposal, YFZ originally pursued a permit to discharge 100,000 gallons per day down Milligan Draw, a tributary of the South Concho River. This was met with heavy opposition from downstream landowners and various entities. These entities suggested disposal by means of a beneficial land application (crop irrigation). That is currently the permit YFZ officials are pursuing.

The main reason for all the hoopla about the discharge permit was simple. There is a honeycomb of pristine springs on the South Concho River just downstream from the YFZ ranch. Environmental impact to these springs from a direct discharge could have been disasterous. Here is a link to a picture of one of the springs.

http://www.ucratx.org/s.%20con%20springs.JPG

Anonymous said...

and if a church was only based upon the principles of men, what a calamity we would be in. And the laws of Christ are the same no matter what you believe. And i would rather be jailed than be a persicutor. May God have mercy on all your souls; for like in joseph's day he was judged with no trial. and lies never stand in God's court...........I have no regrets in defending him. ONly that i was not more faithful.

Anonymous said...

You can tell 8:07 is FLDS. They made it past 4th grade!!

onthestreet said...

It sounds to me like she has a Doctorate of Theology, very learned indeed.

Anonymous said...

and God said, "I will set them on a hill and they shall be hated of all nations" And again God said, "they shall be a pecular people." And again God said, "My ways are not mens ways." And again it is written, "Come out of her, oh ye my people and be not partakers of her sins" And it is written, "Thou who lovest me shall keep my comandments" And it is written, "as ye judge so shall ye be judged" And it was written they did hate and plunder and persicute my people and all is recorded with Jesus. and upon the principles of Christ do lay all things. Just as the sun does rise and set. Just as you sleep and wake; know ye how you do these things. "It was written, God did make men in the likeness of his image and did put all for his needs upon the earth and who will walk for Jesus? Can you turn the other cheek. could you walk ten miles in the shoe's of those you tear down with your accusations? and if you think about it, could you walk in your neighbor's shoes? Only upon the laws of Christ are there perfect peace. He was killed so you could enjoy life. And he was perfect. who then of you, is better than he. Nothing can bring peace more than to enjoy the great love of Jesus, and as he hung on the cross with sinners on both sides, he did speak kindly to them. and no other man upon the earth has suffered the great extent as he has. I know That an inacent man has been accused. Then i can only defend him. and am i shameful, because you disagree? I did defend all of those out there. the street people. the out cast. the beggar. the rich, the poor; why then do you find it strange that i would defend an inacent man.
You who seek his destruction have clamied what will be yours. and can i, one who was nobody change what God has spoken? then who of us did write the law? mercy will have claim on her own.
and a mans own sins does bring about shame upon his own mind, so where is the need for railings.
I also Pray to my God to streatch forth his hand and deliver the inacent, as Your great Prophet has deliviered me. when You did streatch forth your hand in great kindness for me, one who was no one, how much more then do i know you will deliver him. In life and in death, I asked you for him........may I have the courage to be as great as him..........

Anonymous said...

and do you know what; for some reason your insults about education mean nothing to me.

rumor-has-it said...

And Warren Jeffs has the sympathy of many people watching the news. He is so humble and knows all the right words to say. When he wraps around your heart with just a simple 1 minute clip on TV, just think how he has done that to the people in CC.


And as Jesus would do, his first words to the cops is "I forgive you, you know not what you do."

How does that feel to you?

Anonymous said...

I know he is an inacent man. this i know. then i say there are some who are honest out there, and I thank my God for them.

Anonymous said...

yes, I have loved him from the second i seen him. Like a perfect gentle man he is to me. and watching him in those chains and all made me ill, to see. But like he always is and was, he was still the perfect gentle man. there he was, a perfect example to me. I wanted to repent of my ill ways more. Just to good enough to go into eternity with him. Just to be worthy of sitting at his table. and to see his smile again.

Anonymous said...

and he is my Lord; perfect in every way. Just as Jesus was another's Lord in his day. and I try to live in Christ's light and I love my lord with all my heart......and i cry to my God; oh do not let them hurt him. and i echo his words; Forgive them for the weight of sin is heavy upon any man.

ATAR_i said...

I think that the people whom he hurt need to make themselves very visible right now.

The sermons on the 'negro race' need to be played over and over again.

More cameras need to be forced off the road in colorado city. More police officers and business owners need to close their doors, smack the cameras, and ask people to leave public streets simply because they have a camera.

And, for the poster above who uses the 'hatred' or 'persecution' of warren jeffs as a rationale for him being godly. I think warren needs to step to the back of the line of all the other peculiar people who were hated. The taliban (a peculiar people, in dress, religious beliefs, zelousness, committment to the cause), David Koresh, Charlie Manson etc etc

So, before you declare him the 'most peculiar' the 'most hated' and elevate all your friends and family to some higher religious level because you wear long underwear in the summer and winter, slam your doors in strangers faces, tell them to go to hell, and scare the living shit out of them when they drive through your town, remember - those things are just odd and rude, not spiritual. If you're rude and hateful to outsiders THEY WON'T LIKE YOU.

And, lastly, it would have been nice if he had forgiven a few of those little boys he had driven out into the middle of the desert. Does anyone know if he actually said that anyway?

onthestreet said...

The Lord locked out half the virgins (members of His church), and they knocked to come in, but were outsiders locked out.

Is Christ hateful to outsiders? No, says He: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do".

Now granted, the Nation was annihilated, but he DID forgive them. That doesn't mean He accepts them, now does it.

muggsey said...

The nation of the Jews was not annihilated, it was dispersed. The Jews were taken to every port of call on the eastern side of the Mediterranean and sold as slaves. They have lived as a despised people for 1936 years (70 AD - 2006 AD). In spite of all the dispersement, hate and prosecution that they have absorbed over this time period, they have never lost their identity as Jews. They are the only known people on earth who can trace their geneology back to Adam.

They cannot offer sacriffices today because the Law directed that the only place on earth where sacrifice for Israel could be offered was in the Hebrew Temple and it's only acceptable location is in Jerusalem.

An Islamic mosque sits on the spot where Solomon's, Zerubbabel's and Herod's Temples sat and where the new one will be built according to God's timetable. Jews meet together in synagogs (meeting houses) to read and discuss the Pentateuch and the Prophets. Sacrifices may not be offered in synagogs.

Only descendents of the High Priestly lineage of Aaron can act as an intermediary between the people and the Lord God.

In God's own time his people, whom he has used to teach the world about the truths of God, will a fellowship be restored between Israel and the Living I AM GOD.

Anonymous said...

wow, i am glad we have the right to religiouse freedom. I am glad i can believe what i want. wow. I am glad i am not a jew. but i guess they have a right to there opinions too.

onthestreet said...

MUKKY: 9/04/2006 2:44 PM

Sooner than you think, and closer to home than you know.

Anonymous said...

God has always been the Living God. And the story of the Jews is written too.

muggsey said...

ots:

I remember April 4-5-6 of 2004. Warren's great production, (spelling changed on purpose) was supposed to occur on one of those days. (You can determine just how credability I gave to the prediction, I don't even remember the exact date.) FLDS was supposed to be carried up! The last time I looked, about two days ago, YFZ was still in place, 4 air miles or 6 road miles NNE of Eldorado. The temple is still there and Warren is now in Purgatory. (Jail outside St. George, UT.)

onthestreet said...

muggsey said (9/07/2006 3:44 PM):
ots:I remember April 4-5-6 of 2004. Warren's great production, (spelling changed on purpose) was supposed to occur on one of those days. (You can determine just how credability I gave to the prediction, I don't even remember the exact date.) FLDS was supposed to be carried up! The last time I looked, about two days ago, YFZ was still in place, 4 air miles or 6 road miles NNE of Eldorado. The temple is still there and Warren is now in Purgatory. (Jail outside St. George, UT.)


STREET’s Reply: This is why to all the above: Yours and others “lack of memory” as you just now confess. The soul of the mindful in the Lord, being fully prepared, are carried up into heaven through the Keys of Priesthood, at proper auspicious times, just as Paul spoke of
“knowing a man who has been carried up to the third heavens”, referring to his Prophet Peter. The elect each time selected by the Prophet to be carried up in the Spirit, were carried up, in preparation for the due time in the Lord when the entire community of saints, purified and sanctified in the fire by trial and by God’s presence, will be lifted up into heaven like the city of Enoch, Pheleg, Elijah, Moses, and many others in every generation of time.

Now, the wicked not knowing much about this doesn’t really matter much. Thus, your “lack of memory”.

muggsey said...

I could go to the archives of the newspaper and find the exact date but, the event was not noteworthy with the exception that once again Jeffs prediction proved to be absolutely in error. One of our locals dressed in a black robe and hood, carried a sythe and had his picture taken with the YFZ temple in the background. Enter the grim reaper, who showed up for the e vent, Jeffs was in repose somewhere, currently in a prison called Purgatory. In the end Jeffs wasn't aprophet at all, just a big-mouthed prognosticator.

If you consider the events of the past two weeks, the mountain of evidence collected, his not FLDS clothing, his father's wife's non FLDS clothing, the thousands of letters opened only to remove the money then tossed aside, the ignition keys to all the luxury vehicles, the wigs, the secure phones, the police scanners, the multiple cell phones, gift cards, stubs for his groups attendance to Disneyland and Knotts Berry Farm. His capture in Sin City. The very vehicle in which he was traveling. His false identification and on and on.

The above list represents duplicity. Jeffs rules do not apply to Jeffs. His predictions do not come true, he has embezzeled, defrauded, assisted in statutory rape, sodomized, fled to avoid proscecution, scattered his followers to other geographical locations in an effort to lessen their numbers in a particular location and thus have more direct control over their lives. These are just the inconsistancies of which I and America are aware. He is now in jail. His presence, at least for a time should thwart the underage marriages.

Will his followers go berserk. It would seem as if ots has.

Anonymous said...

I thought you said we was all crazy and brain washed to start with.....what is the deal? you changing your perspective? now we are going to go beserk?.......

muggsey said...

Berserk - equivilent of running around with no goal in mind, without direction or purpose, helter-skelter, in motion but going nowhere. I can't answer the question. I won't attempt to, can you?

onthestreet said...

See, he just ain't got no clue, (doo yoo), nor glue to hold his shoe to help him go and do what he thought he could do. Now, he is so blue, that all he can do is goo in the mirror and battle with the flu. All he can do is waller in the goo, the poo in the mirror, not knowing just who he might be, just maybe a Jew, or maybe a cow that goes mooo, and then I too will say a prayer for the poo, and the taming of his shrew, who one day he thought he would woo, and what do you knew: Like unto himself, she was not poo.

onthestreet said...

Soury: This was in reply to the MUK who said: “Berserk - equivilent of running around with no goal in mind, without direction or purpose, helter-skelter, in motion but going nowhere. I can't answer the question. I won't attempt to, can you?” 9/09/2006 8:43 PM

See, he just ain't got no clue, (doo yoo), nor glue to hold his shoe to help him go and do what he thought he could do. Now, he is so blue, that all he can do is goo in the mirror and battle with the flu. All he can do is waller in the goo, the poo in the mirror, not knowing just who he might be, just maybe a Jew, or maybe a cow that goes mooo, and then I too will say a prayer for the poo, and the taming of his shrew, who one day he thought he would woo, and what do you knew: Like unto himself, she was not poo.

muggsey said...

ots aka lead-head

Shoo, git outta here, go on home and drink your beer. If you're so dumb you have no cheer go butt a stump and show no fear. For solid wood meeting solid lead, will just go "thump" with nothing said.

(See lead-head, you're not the only one who can make nonsense rhyme.)

Your verses writ do not impress nor disturb any who are at rest. The dead hear not your simple wit, There 'tis no humor not a little bit.

onthestreet said...

9/27/2006 1:00 PM
Ahh, my verses writ of Holy Writ, when for the Kingdom he is fit, until upon his throne doth sit, and every conscience he hath lit, except that soul in yonder pit.

onthestreet said...

They smile too. Great big smiles. so one for you and one for me, and ten for him......

8/30/2006 9:14 PM

STREET's Reply: This sounds like Ruth. That is beautiful.