Tuesday, July 18, 2006

I'm not surprised that FLDS people don't like the idea of a film that shows what is really going on in Colorado City. The whole point of "BANKING ON HEAVEN" is to shed light on the psychological & physical abuses being inflicted on thousands of innocent people. And to put the spotlight of government officials and others who have refused to acknowledge their responsibility to help.

Another purpose of the film is to raise money to implement a non-profit agency that will provide safe & legal transition services. A substantial percent of DVD sales will go to the non-profit.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

How much is a substancial percentage?

How many points?

giz2gaz said...

The production company is donating 10% to 20% (the higher the revenue, the higher the percentage) to help people who want to leave. That's compared to the usual 1% most films donate, if they donate anything at all. I don't use "points" because it's too often used as a scam to donate nothing.

Why the attitude?

Anonymous said...

Attitude.

Well maybe a little, it seems your advertising is a bit much.

Maybe you could keep your ads on the same thread instead of starting a new one every time you want to say something.

muggsey said...

Dut to technical difficulties I have to change my address for a brief period of time, until the blogosphere and I are in one accord. (That's a more expensive Honda) You have known me as Mugwump heretofore. Now reply to me as muggsey! Arguments, insults and differences of opinion are welcome. Vile language and gutter talk is opposed by the Web Administrater, with justification.

Just a bit of info.

onthestreet said...

Nice job, RUMP. What! You tryin to transform your grossness into a cuddly little teddy-bear. Better to be blocked, monitored, and outright BANNED.

Anonymous said...

Good to see you back MUGS!

ATAR_i said...

Well - I for one have been excited about your film since I heard of it. I'm even more excited with the new footage, and enjoyed watching the new trailer.

And perhaps this does belong in the other thread, but no big deal - you're new to the blog.

Anonymous said...

what nonprofit is the money going to?

Anonymous said...

So you'll give 10-20 cents on the dollar and after expenses you should get a generous payday. Very altruistic!

Anonymous said...

I'm not surprised either.It's not all "lies". Pennie Peterson, Ruth Stubbs, The Lost Boys, Fawn H & Fawn B are NOT all liars.

Anonymous said...

I guess we can't name names here b/c I can't comment. I don't think all these young boys and girls are making this stuff up. Denial is NOT a river in Egypt.

Anonymous said...

so what nonprofit is going to get the money from this documentary?

muggsey said...

Street:

Thank you for your kind words. I know I can allways count upon you to get things backward.

ATAR_i said...

Did you expect that someone purchased or rented thousands of dollars of equiptment, employed a crew, edited a film, and worked for three years without pay?

Hmmm - I don't think so, which makes the large donation to a non-profit organization even more generous. It's not like this film is hitting the big theatres and is going to make a mint. They are selling the DVD's (and it takes time to make those suckers too) at a very decent price, and won't make minimum wage by the time this film is all through.

This film isn't about the money they make.

These women are not liars.

Those boys are not liars.

This, is what FLDS did with those they didn't want, and with those who didn't want it, and those who didn't know they had a choice.

giz2gaz said...

Let me expand a bit on what Atar_i said.

I'm not, nor ever have been, wealthy. To finance "BANKING ON HEAVEN" I sold my house and moved into a cheap mobile home in the desert. Sold the second car. Sold everything I owned that was worth more than $10.00. Now I drive a 25-year old wreck that doesn't even have AC. This film has literally taken years off my life. I subsist on beans & rice and veggies & fruit. Not by choice (I LOVE gourmet food), but by necessity. Everything I own and every bit of my resources have gone into getting this story out. I owe over half a million dollars to all of the people who helped make this film. The DVD sales will probably never generate enough revenue to pay them, but they volunteered to work for nothing because they thought this story had to be told.

I'll never get back the time & money "BANKING ON HEAVEN" cost to make. I don't care about money. The donation from the proceeds is my way of helping to alleviate the suffering of the people who've left (for whatever reason) & to help them become productive and happy survivors.

To tell the truth is the only purpose.

ATAR_i said...

I had no idea it was that devastating to you. What made you decide to commit yourself that fully to this project?

muggsey said...

Is the DVD currently on the market?
Where in San Angelo, Texas could one obtain a copy?

ATAR_i said...

Banking on Heaven

You can play the trailer and order the DVD.

fundy said...

help them become productive and happy survivors.

To tell the truth is the only purpose.

You don't know what the truth is there. All you have to go on are complaints from people who are having problems.

ATAR_i said...

"To tell the truth is the only purpose"

Quoted by Fundy

Ahem, I wouldn't mind a little truth, since it's your only purpose.

Who are the enemies of zion?

Tell the truth now : )

muggsey said...

Well, common sense would tell you that if people are complaining there must be something rotten going on that's causing the stink.

you could root it out but, you're afraid of finding the REAL truth because you would have to abandon some of your pet ideas. They are just so much hot air.

onthestreet said...

Hey MUCK-SEE, people complained about Jesus to the authorities till all hell broke loose. Is that the criteria of innocence or guilt? Pray do tell, if ye can do so without scorching the entire planet with hot air.

muggsey said...

ots

Complaining were the priests, scribes and Pharasees. Remember, Jesus had interrupted their little commercial activity in the temple courtyard on two different occasions. He called them thieves and robbers and stated that "My house call be called a House of Prayer, but you have made it into a den of thieves." The scripture tells it like it was. The corrupt clergy were the accusers. It was the common man who spread their cloaks and palm branches before him as he rode into Jerusalem on the donkey's back. Remember, the commoner was in debt to the ruler so, their interpetation of the Golden Rule was enforced by financial pressure: "The man with the gold makes the rules."

Since WJ controls the finances of FLDS, I supect he makes ALL the rules. And Jeffs is still on the run, like the coward that he is. He think's he's the Wizard, but he is just the brainless Scarecrow, the heartless Tin man and the Cowardly Lion. He's hoping one of his little maidens (Dorothy) will be able to direct him to Oz.

Anonymous said...

Wow, ots how did you know that was going to happen?

And you atari, that was excelleent.

Anonymous said...

OTS--just imaging what the FLDS would have done to me if I had done what Jesus did before I left. Imagine me going into Saturday work meeting with a whip and lashing Lyle or William and telling them that Saturday was a day of consecration and freewill, not a day of coersion and that they were all a den of thieves. I would likely have been crucified by the FLDS.

onthestreet said...

Rest assured little one, thou art not the Christ. All who consecrate do so freely, and all who felt coerced were also free to leave, then and now.

ATAR_i said...

Do the other people at the library drop to their knees when you enter OTS?

Anonymous said...

I had to laugh at the original post by guz2gag:

"I'm not surprised that FLDS people don't like the idea of a film that shows...the psychological & physical abuses being inflicted on thousands of innocent people."

Arent the FLDS people the innocent people you describe?

onthestreet said...

Ahh, the film of a violent Labaronite, that "shows" their fantasies, as they continue to attack religious orders, as they have done through the years. Even the film's website confessed that they had to fantisize it "in order to make it successful".

Read it yourself: http://www.bankingonheaven.com/press.html (I quote):

“Had the subject matter been less compelling or appalling, Banking on Heaven would not succeed…Banking on Heaven's excellence lies in its ability to have its audience's jaws on the floor…, to fascinate and enrage”…(from “The Dominion)).

“It tells the stories of women who fled” (Arizona Republic), NOT the story of the FLDS Church.

“A documentary on women who have fled” (The Canadian Press), NOT the story of the FLDS Church.


THIS TELLS IT ALL, DOESN’T IT!