Saturday, April 22, 2006

Merril Jessop Abandons Wife.

Aunt Nita Jessop was sent away from her family and grandchildren through the regime of Warren Jeffs. She has been with Merril Jessop since she was young, and now that she is old and in ill health, she is sent off with no one to care for her except for a compassionate teen-age grandson.

If this is what happens in our old age, why stick around?

91 comments:

Anonymous said...

not to put a damper on your filthy attemt to slander, and a marriage between a man and a women is not really public property, but because it is interesting to note, that It is my exhusbands signature upon the papers. There is no question about this. He filled out the forms. He signed my name. Dr. Astle is one of the best doctors i have ever met. He was good to me. I shall always remember what he did for me. I guess i have to make allowances and forgive the rest of the staff in Dr. Twiggs office and Dr. Smith. It could not be possible that they knew it all. He is the one who signed the papers. No wonder they treated me like they did. I never seen the papers. I shall never see him again. It shall be a great lesson to never trust. I could have went and looked at the papers all along. I would have known then. I have to bear some of the burden. I shall never see him again. I shall not call denver again. God was doing a fine job of holding him accountable. I did not need to interfere. I shall never see him again. I am glad at this. I made a great mistake in making my marriage public. He is guilty. May my daughter rest in peace. and that is all she wrote. May the contenders find peace also.Who ever you are that is looking for sorrow, may you find peace. what is done is done. May you all find peace.

Anonymous said...

and Ruth Huth, that was a hell of a choice to give a woman; give up your home and religion for protection. You turned your back on me. my daughter is dead now.

Anonymous said...

GOOD GRIEF, Rumor!!! Is this true? I thought that if a woman wasn't worthy, her husband was to blame for not teaching her. Is it true that WOMEN are now being cast out?

What was the reason? Where is she living, and with whom? What about her children? How do they feel about it?

I sure hope this is the final straw for a whole lot of people who are trying to hang in there. I hope this snaps the thread.

Anonymous said...

You do know that Merrill is the only spokes person for Eldorado FLDS in Texas?
Ernie was but was told to “Worship from afar". Is Merrill NEXT? Good!

Anonymous said...

You mean it is OK to have Warren's older mothers, I mean Warren's older wives live at the YFZ and not Merrills Jessops.

How unfair. What will happen when Merrill has another major heart attack.

Will Jessop get kicked out and Warren get his wives and children.

It could happen.

Anonymous said...

Isn't there something in Malachi about dealing trecherously with the wife of their youth.

Could you please quote that one for us Street?

Anonymous said...

Well, if there is, then Warren will have it. He deals treacherously with the older ones and lecherously with the younger ones.

Anonymous said...

http://scriptures.lds.org/mal/2

Anonymous said...

Noboby knows half of what some of these posts are talking about. You need to be more specific and provide more detail. Please. The first is all but incomplete and wondering with now idea where she is coming from. Needs much more detail.....

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Nita tired of the political BS and couldn't abide the mess any longer. Could that be the scenario?
Doesn't she have a son "Fred" who is kind of in the thick of it all?

Anonymous said...

No one remembers Julia Thomas? 80+ years old and kicked out... She's one of the most wonderful people I've ever met, but she believes in Winston, not Warren. God bless her for it.

Anonymous said...

I remember Julia Thomas, and she believes in kindness and is kind to me. I believe in winston. He is there is he not. Then i believe in him. Your statement is very broad and bold. I also believe in the district attorney. He is there is he not? I also believe in the sun. It rises and sets. I also believe in gentiles and jews. I believe that there are all kinds of people upon the earth. I also believe that Jesus put his law upon the earth and expected us all to live them. And I do remember julia Thomas and last i knew she did not want her named used publicly, so have some respect.

Anonymous said...

And believeing in Winston does not really say much. Just what does it mean to believe in Winston? Is that some thing like a smoking thing?

Anonymous said...

You know, believing in Winston as opposed to believing in Warren is no better. That's what started this whole mess: believing in a MAN.

I believe in God.

onthestreet said...

4/23/2006 3:50 PM

You two simply missed her point, being unintelligible. What she's saying is that whatever exists, it is real, subject to acknowledgement or belief. Now that is good intelligence. You cannot go wrong by believing in the devil, because if you don't, then you deny his very existence and are in serious trouble, not knowing the enemy's in your camp. To believe in something's existence opens up the potential to deal with it. That doesn't say that you worship it, although most of you do unawares. That moment you reject anything that comes from God, the devil takes power, and can then use anything as objects of worship, besides God.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (4/22/2006 10:04 PM): Isn't there something in Malachi about dealing trecherously with the wife of their youth.

Could you please quote that one for us Street?
4/22/2006 10:04 PM



STREET’s Reply: You have to look at the Word deeper. You can’t discipher a book by its cover. What does Malachi say (2:10)?

10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

11 Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

If she was cast off, perhaps it was the woman who profaned the covenant. Then, who dealt treacherously?

D&C 132:
52. And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, receive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

53. For I am the Lord thy God and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been faithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.

54. And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

55. But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an hundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of eternal lives in the eternal worlds.

56. And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid forgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to rejoice.

Anonymous said...

What Street has just quoted is from the Mormon scripture - the Doctine and Covenants number 132.

This Mormon scripture has been around for 150 years and is STILL in the Mormon Church's scripture TODAY.

Don't be fooled by the PR that the LDS church regeritates about not believing in polygamy and not praticing polygamy today.

What a crock the LDS church is.

If they (the LDS) REALLY wanted to end polygamy and distance themselves from the Mormon polygamist groups, then they would REMONE this section from their church doctrine.

Polygamy is still ALIVE AND WELL in the LDS Mormon scriptures and until it is removed, the LDS Mormon church is just a bunch of closet polygamists.

What forked tongues the LDS Saints use.

Anonymous said...

who kicked your cat today?

Anonymous said...

every one is on a path. Is it just to jump to judgment. No matter the religion or name; Did you hold to Christ today?

Faithful Woman said...

Fawnita wasn't exactly a humble and submissive wife and she has serious health problems. Among other items, she has paranoia and is in need of close care.

Doesn't sould like a perfect little wife that belongs in the "secret" compound.

Go Fawneta! Thank you grandson for taking care of an aged tiger.

Anonymous said...

I do not know, faithful; it appears you are rejoicing in her unfortunate health. I think it is great that some one is taking care of her. Tigers do live in the wild. I think she lives in a house. Too bad you are not more caring. Light a candle for her too.

Anonymous said...

Faithful, isn't Fawnita a "close" relative of your beloved Ross's dad?

Anonymous said...

Why bother with soap operas? You get a new one every day on this blog. And you people are supposed to be a people set apart? Please...........


More than disgusted

Anonymous said...

Why must there be this constant bickering and controvery among the
various Polyg-Dynasties and their adherents?It looks to my monogamist
eyes that,all Fundamentalists,of what ever dynasty,Jeffs,Blackmore,Timpson,Allred,Kingston,Trenholm,what ever creed , are all just one huge enormous dysfunctional familiy.
Are all these clans not related,by blood and marriage?Why do their adherants waste so much blog argueing?

Anonymous said...

No, the Kingstons are not related to the other "high status" polygamists.The other familes mentioned are almost all descended
from three post-manifesto LDS polygamists.
Byron Harvey Allred.1874-1936
Joseph Smith Jessop.1869-1954
Warren Marshall Johnson.1838-1901.
Virtualy all the "Higher Ups"in all the groups,are descended from at least one or more
of these patriarchs.

Anonymous said...

Hey late nite 1;11am anon,Who is the Trenholm family?Never heard of 'em?

Anonymous said...

1;11 poster; I suppose that is what all you great manogimist think. elite? Are you above us too? Is that why you can think to critazise too. Manogamy. I think i shall stay single. Too much bickering in the marriage department. Stay single. As soon as you marry some one they think they have the right to hammer you and when they leave, they sue. Just think of the money you would save in lawer fee's and you get to keep your stuff.

saar said...

Only selfish people never have kids. They are too caught up in having what they need -- that they can not think of being responsible for a child and showing them the way to heaven. It takes a caring and loving person to be a dad and mom. Thank Goodness you realized that before you had kids.

mugwump said...

saar

I'm sorry to disagree with your assessment. There are those individuals who, through no fault of their own are either sterile or infertile. It is a fact of nature. Those who are sterile cannot father children. Those who are infertile cannot bear children. Most of the folks that I have known over the years yearn to be parents, but for reasons known only to God they are unable to have children of their own. This does not mean that they can't be foster parents or adopt, provided that they can meet the specific qualifications required for legal adoption.

In particular instances I have known peope who were unable to conceive, adopt a child and find that a pregnancy of their own followed. Why? I don't know, but it does happen.

Anonymous said...

reply to

saar said...

Only selfish people never have kids. They are too caught up in having what they need -- that they can not think of being responsible for a child and showing them the way to heaven. It takes a caring and loving person to be a dad and mom. Thank Goodness you realized that before you had kids.

4/26/2006 11:16 PM

Excuse me but I think your post is a wee bit inaccurate- according to the way that MOST people think - excluding the MORMONS.

I personally CHOSE not to have children but it WAS NOT out of selfishness, but rather out of generosity because I did not think that I would have been a very good parent.

So, instead of spitting out babies just to fill the void for the need of bodies to house the "souls of the Mormon saints" and risking being a bad parent in the interim, I chose not to bring innocent children into this world in a less than ideal situation.

You are right, it DOES take a a caring and loving person to be a dad and mom.

And it also takes a caring and loving person to NOT be a mom if the conditons are not right for the child.

Not everyone believes that this is the only way to heaven.

So before you critisize, learn about how he REST of America thinks

saar said...

Yup! Selfish, selfish, selfish, selfish

So before you criticize, learn about how GOD thinks.

mugwump said...

sarr

I guess you didn't read my 11:17 post yesterday. Are you so wise that you can understand the mind of God? I really tink a good study of the book of Job would give you some insight in relation to that point of view.

Anonymous said...

saar, it must be people like you who believe in continuing to have babies in spite of known genetic malfunctions that has brought on the proliferation of birth defects such as the DEADLY "Fumerace Deficiency" disease that it now indigenous - in the USA - ONLY within the FLDS.

Way to go saar - great logic there !!!

Anonymous said...

Hafta wonder if Saar isn't Street's twin brother.

Anonymous said...

Sarr is not as witty as street. He's just as confused, just can't rebut as well as street.

rcn

saar said...

If you have ever been around a handicapped person, they radiate God's love like no other. I am in no way saying that if there is a problem, ignore it. I don't like the idea of cousins marrying.

All I am saying is that it takes someone special to be a mom and dad. And it takes someone extra extra extra special to be a dad to 50 or more. Or a mom to 5 or more. Devoting your whole lifetime to a great cause is to be commended.
It is no walk in the park.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said...
saar, it must be people like you who believe in continuing to have babies in spite of known genetic malfunctions that has brought on the proliferation of birth defects such as the DEADLY "Fumerace Deficiency" disease that it now indigenous - in the USA - ONLY within the FLDS.

Way to go saar - great logic there !!!
5/01/2006 12:02 AM


STREET’s Reply: And one of his disciples asked him: Was this because of the sin of the parents that this man is so (deformed, tormented, etc). And he answered them, saying: It was NOT the sin of the parents, but that the Glory of God might be manifest, according to His own will and way.

“Fumerace ONLY within the FLDS”? Well, what would that tell you about the manifesting of the Glory of God, in the Church of God, according to the very word of Christ? What is it, “fumerase deficiency”? It is an enzymn deficiency, and what is an enzyme? It is a protein present in the cells of all living beings, that facilitate naturally occurring biochemical reactions. What does that tell you? God has seen fit to smile upon his people, and “ONLY” his people, as you yourself admit, in making that enzyme deficient among that people, so that God may facilitate their functions like manna from above, and not something that man may present as vital to their health, like doctors who kill people every day in our hospitals in the name of health, so that man may have the glory of playing God. The doctors have even counseled FLDS mothers to murder their little children, “in order to save them from this disease”. GO FIGURE! How does one save a child by killing him, or her? INDEED!

There, how’s that for a rebut, you butt? Butttt, you was plenty warned. Just don’t go butting your head against the wall now, or go butt naked because you have no other way of expressing yourself in public.

onthestreet said...

saar said...
If you have ever been around a handicapped person, they radiate God's love like no other. I am in no way saying that if there is a problem, ignore it. I don't like the idea of cousins marrying.

STREET's Reply: See? That in itself manifests the glory of God, "radiating God's love like no other".

Well put, saary.

Anonymous said...

STREET sounds like you should go see a doctor and get checked for that Fumerase Deficiency because it appears that your brain is mush.

onthestreet said...

There you go! See, a softened heart and mind, receptive to the mind and will of God (what you call "mush") is the very thing that saves man. It is the hardened heart, and mind, and arteries, that kill, and destroy nations.

Well put, my little one.

Anonymous said...

I am just finishing reading Carolyn Jessop's book Escape. I can't believe that people seriously live like that. For everyone who thinks that the "outsiders" are evil, we are truely not. You live in abusive, violent situations with delusional men who are CRAZY and should be in institutions. I'm not surprised that Nita is mentally ill after all she has been through in the polyig world, who wouldn't be. GET OUT ALL OF YOU!

Anonymous said...

While Carolyn Jessops book provides one view, i tend to believe it is a true view as it is backed up by other evidence.

I cannont understand how any woman can choose to lose all control of themselves and be ruled by people clearly in search of power.

Anytime anyone contested anything said by the so called prophets, all the sudden God decrees a change, does it not strike any of you as strange that God would change the rules so often, isnt he wise enough to know what works and what doesnt, He did after all create us all.

Anonymous said...

Mother Barbara will get her just rewards someday.

Fate is funny like that.

shi3la said...

If you mean by just rewards that she'll burn in hell, then yeah, you're right!!

Anonymous said...

I am a new comer, and a big confused? can I ask what the discussion is about...briefly....got a bit lost reading the comments? RS

Anonymous said...

I have just read Carolyn Jessop's book and it has really peaked my curiosity about you folks, I found it totally fascinating. I live in South Africa and I have to say that the similarities between your culture and our Zulu culture are amazing. It is common practice for Zulu men to have many wives. Our ANC president has about 12 wive and 60 children. In the Zulu culture wives and children are also the property of the husband. The majority of our Zulu's belong to a religion called the ZCC - Zionist Christian Community. Just thought you might find that interesting.

Anonymous said...

the notion of a god is insane ! Face reality ! Have courage. get out of that crappy flds.
Long Live Carolyn !!!!

Anonymous said...

I just finished reading Carolyn Jessop's book tonight, and I am so mad!!! I can't believe that women live like that.

That's all I can say, I am just mad that this sickness exists.

Anonymous said...

I'm reading Carolyn Jessops' book right now(I'm half way through) and I'm also shocked beyond words about what's going on in this cult.
It reminds me of women in Saudi Arabia. Men there also allowed to marry several wives and threat them like slaves.
I hope more women like Carolyn will get the courage to leave this cult if not for their sake, then for their children sake.
If you are an FLDS member, try to get hold of this book, it will open your eyes: Escape by Carolyn Jessop.

Anonymous said...

Well done Carolyn Jessop!! I am so impressed at her bravery and hope that she has set an example to the FLDS community! What a terrifying environment for any woman or child to exist(if you can call it that)in. I am shocked and angry and wish that the people of this cult would open their eyes and realise that this behaviour is unacceptable! You don't have to live like this!!!

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for every woman and child in the flds even the men because you have all been brain washed from birth. Im so sorry for anyone living such a crazy, twisted life and hopefully someone will break up the whole town beacause no town in the USA should be run by a cult!

Anonymous said...

i think da cult is evil how can so many peopl b abused liked dis i just finished readings corolyns book and couldnt belive that this was in this day and age i really hope these peopl get help espicially the woemen and children even thoug im sure some of the menneed help as well

Anonymous said...

Just finished reading Carolyn Jessop's book- what a page-turner, I couldn't put it down. It's sobering to think that such evil still exists in modern-day America in the name of religion. I was shocked beyond belief at the power exerted by Warren Jeffs, Merrill Jessop and their cronies. It was made even more frightening with the parallels to Nazism. I wish Carolyn and her family all the best, and only hope that Betty can "see the light"

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ is THE Lord and Savior. I dont know where the LDS or any of this other hullaballoo comes from, nor do I care. There is a reason people are so disgusted by this polygamous way of life: it runs completely antithesis to a moral and principled lifestyle and society. The child abuse, mentally physically and sexually, will not go unpunished in the end...



i think i am going to go vomit now...

Anonymous said...

I read Carolyn Jessop's novel, as well. It is just awful to see people brainwashed in the name of the LORD.

I certainly hope that Faunita gets the help she needs and deserves. She really deserves to be shown the love of God, and to be treated with kindness and decency.

Is there a place where concerned people can donate money or goods to help the people victimized by/families destroyed by the FDLS? I may be an "OUTSIDER," but I am willing to try to help.

Anonymous said...

anonymous said....
I just finished reading Carolyn Jessop book I couldn,t put it down mental,sexally abuse to the women + children DISGUSTING. This is when the government should get involve. It should level those building now seeing nobody in there.I hope another book comes out to find out barbara,Merril an other people in book what happening with them. WARREN JEFF should NEVER get out of jail.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you know I have heard about terrorism being brought to the U.S. and I thought who would do that. Then I saw this. These are the people I can picture strapping explosives under those wierd dresses and blowing up coffee shops and malls. Mark my words. Freaky!

Anonymous said...

Those animals that prey on those innocent women and children should be castrated and then put to death!

monique said...

Hi,
i to have just read carolyn jessops book and was saddened to see that that sort of mass abuse is aloud to happen to women and children,please can someone tell me if there is organisations out there set up to help these people once they are out? i was very pleased to see on the news tonight that 450 children have been taken from one of these satanic human farms to be put into foster care, which i can understand will be very upsetting and hard for the children at first, but in time im sure they will be better off for it, and hopefuly follow in carolyn jessops footsteps.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand any of this blog stuff, but I know one thing for sure, the only way into heaven is through the Holy Redeemer Jesus the Son of God and none of these men that call themselfs Prophets or whatever they call themself, I call them the child molester of Satan and the haters of Women (you know Satan has no love for women and neither do these men), See the similarity. I read Caolyn Jessops book and it truamatized me just reading it. They need to irradicate this religion it will cause nothing but unhappiness and depression for women. I thought their could not be a worse religion than Islam but there is its cal FLDS.

Anonymous said...

ok, i recently read carolyn jessops book, and have seen the news on cnn.... i live in england, went to catholic school, although not catholic myself, i don't practise my religion, but do believe in god, and have a well rounded view on the world. I cannot believe all this has gone on.... warren jeffs is a bit of a prick to be fair...and how these people can believe these rules (which he makes up daily) to suit himself is absurd! and would i be correct in assuming that the men at the top of the hierarchy, who get all these young girls to marry, probably aren't lookers...and in the real world, couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding, (sorry, in translation, could never get a girl in the real world to be interested in them), so they have to oppress to impress! what a bunch of wankers!!!(and don't get my started on what he got his wife to do to the cow infront of those children!!)

Nicola said...

Hi
i too have just read of Carolyn's amazing braveness in saving her children from this insanity. GET REAL all those involved in FLDS we are in 2008. Open your eyes, this is not reality but an extremely unfortunate way to exist. i sympathise for all victims in this criminal cult. stop now before we have even more nutcases damaging our world
Nicola from U.K.

legalaero said...

Blessing to All-
I also just finished Carolyn's book. Couldn't put it down since I got it 4 days ago. She has truly got to be one of the most Spirit Guided and Driven women I've ever heard of in my entire life (50 yrs. now). Bless and thank you, Carolyn, for using the mind God gave you and sharing your story so that others may gain strength from the knowledge of your challenges. I'm a practicing Anglican...and I'm sorrowed to know that Zealots will use the tranquil state of some of our lives to take advantage. Warren Jeffs is now in prison and I suspect that several more should join him, Merril Jessop being one of the first. We've got to take a stand and "stand" for something..or we'll fall for anything. Let us all pray that it will be to honor the FREEDOM our fore-fathers fought for....and our men & women in the Middle-East ARE STILL DEFENDING!!!! The Law has many challenges...let us all try to help support them however we can. (and by-the way - I'm a paralegal so I've got half a clue!)

Rawlinsongirls said...

You know i just want the gentlemen of the FLDS to check it out. God is a black woman.

J.James said...

After reading Carolyns truely incredible book, of which I could not put down the past week, I am determioned to rescue other women that are still trapped in this barbaric cult. Surely after learning that all of Warren's "messages from god" were fraudulent, people would wise up the fact that even it's leaders knew the religion was false and making a mockery of it??
Anyway, all my love and support to Carolyn and everyone else who has been harmed by this destructive way of life.

Anonymous said...

It’s funny that most if not all religion, believe men are worthy and women are not.
FLDS among other religion are base on pervert and abuse. Any religion that practice hate, destruction, and abuse towards life is in contradiction. If life is so bad, then why not die? God loves all his children. Whether men, women, black, white, God loves all. It’s a shame how gullible people can be. Freedom is not given to those who pray for it. Freedom is given to those who take it. God gave us minds and strength to think for ourselves, and to survive. So when a person tries to take those gifts by brain wash or by abuse, they are committing a great sin.

Anonymous said...

I just finished reading Carolynn Jessops book and I'm completely shocked at how religion in general can be manipulated to suit one man's needs. How can animals be slaughtered for no good reason, but to instill fear in oneself if you act out. Didn't god create these animals? Killing dogs because God told you too?? what????
It sounds to me like a man wrote the laws when he was very angry at his wife and made a wish list of the things he would like changed if he could change them. Woman not being able to complain about the uncomfortableness of pregnancy and not make noise when giving birth? Are you for real?? This is just to unbelievable!

Anonymous said...

A Quote from the Bible, the absolute truth: Revelation 22:18-19: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this- book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which are descirbed in this book. " The book of Mormon is attempting to add something more to what God said was complete. It has no truth in it. Please do not put the Word of God in the same category with a book that was written by man and is being used to subject so many people to so much misery.

Carol said...

The book "escape" is now my only bible & should be read & believed by all membors of the FLDS in order for them to act on saving their suffocating lives.
Carol

Anonymous said...

For all of you who have read Carolyn Jessops book you should try...

The Secret Lives of Saints: Child Brides and Lost Boys in a Polygamous Mormon Sect

It discusses the history of the FLDS sect - up to current times.

A more difficult read - but very informative.

Carol said...

Thankyou for that anon, I will also try to get a copy of that book.
Carol

Lesley said...

I am shocked that this type of child and woman abuse is allowed to go on unchecked in the USA of all places. Is it because secretly most men would love to be able to control their wives and children like these despots do? I think the USA is too politically correct in dealing with these issue's, they should close these places down unceremoniously and without explaination

Anonymous said...

Wow I just read the book Escape and will tell you I was shocked. How can people be so cruel, It appales me that we are letting this go on! As American's we start screaming if we think women and children in other countries aren't be treated fairly BUT do nothing to the hundreds of people here who are living in that HELL....As a Christian I prayed for all of you last night. I think it was a blessing they kicked Aunt Nita out!!! Run Nita as fast as you can.

Anonymous said...

What worries me the most about all of these happenings Carolyn has opened our eyes to is, that as far as the bible goes (and the mormon bible too), we are taught that god is a god of love - I don't see these affected families practising this at all - also the other posts that were on here initially seemed to have a lot of mormon people posting and this seems to have ended. Why is that ?
What support structure is there in place to teach these people that the world isn't full of evil people (yes, I know, there are definitely some) and that these men are purely narcisstic to do what they are doing to their wive and children. They are not teaching gods word of love at all and are certainly not showing it through any actions. Warren Jeffs had he not luckily been born into this unfortunate group of people, would have been regarded as a paedophile and mentally deranged in the real world. Luckily he has been caught.
Betty, I do hope you come home to your amazing mother and a wonderful world of joy and love that does exist in normal life. Sadly your dad is not the person you want him to be.

Anonymous said...

I just finished reading Carolyns book and I am shocked things like this are happening in the world! The sad thing is that when "outsiders" try to help and improve the situation like what happened in the raid, it only strenghthens these memebers because they are lead to believe we are trying to destroy the "chosen people". It's a lose lose situation.
These women really are brainwashed no matter HOW MUCH they say they aren't. And it blows my mind how obviously wrong it is...God is a god of love, and equality and happiness....God has absolutely nothing to do with what is being practiced there. It doesn't even make sense! If my salvation is contingent upon someone else...i'm not sure that is much of a heaven. These polygamist men are in for a very rude awakening in the afterlife.

Anonymous said...

Just about to finish reading Carolyn's book. I'm glad she managed to leave and win to keep her children. Go Carolyn. Well done for being so strong and courageous.So sorry for all the disillusioned people that are still living that life.

Anonymous said...

American taliban, right under our noses. Brainwashed from infancy, denied erudition, health care, love. Carolyn's book is just the tip of the iceburg, I am sure. Cults have no right to exist under the umbrella of God. Such demeaning fabrications , violence to women and children, condoned by the cult leader...must be abolished. This must be the way people felt before Hitler made it so obvious what he was up to..."it can't really be that bad"...well, it is! There probably is no healing for many of those born into the cult of FLDS...too far gone. But there should be help for those salvageable.It is difficult to turn the lights on if there are no bulbs.

Anonymous said...

Exactly, when you keep people in the dark nothing good ever comes from it. Only mushrooms survive in a dark environment and we all know what they grow in. This is a sad and senseless tradgedy that has take place in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. We all need to stand behind these poor women and children and help them be brave and free. God bless Carolyn Jessop. Doesn't matter if you consider these cults a religion, when people break the law, they should not be allowed to cower behind their so called "freedom of relegion".

Anonymous said...

I am reading the book Escape,and it is soo sad how people can destroy their lives to each other,that please is a hell!! I just say to those guys, who called themselves prophets and say that believe in God they are really "devils".......

Anonymous said...

I just read the book Escape and I have to say it is a wonderful book. Her story, makes you go from tears to happiness in minutes. For the FLDS men to do this to their wifes in unhuman. Why does the bible state that god mad a woman from a man. He didn't make three women from one man. He made one. Which I take as one wife or soul-mate. My husband came from sudan (am white american) and his culture believes in more than one wife, they still practice this in sudan. They do it for a different reason though. And no my husband doesn't believe that it is right in his own heart. I just want to thank the woman of the FLDS who talk openly about their lives as plural wives. I can't imagine having to share my husband. Thank you ladies.

Anonymous said...

I have read Carolyn Jessop's book (twice now) or should I say her nightmare. I can't imagine the horror and despair that must of been her's. It's so hard to fathom that so many people can blindly follow were some lead, be an advocate to something so perverse, be unable to recognise or care or feel someone else's suffering and degradation and live it everyday. My heart and thoughts to those who are still in terrible situations where they are made to feel like possessions instead of the wonderful, free thinking spirits they could be, trapped in mindless drudgery for someone who has no godlike qualities and will never get even close to the gates of heaven, their stench will make it known that they have lived as a devil and surely be sent to join him.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you..pretty simple but what a difference the world would be....Imagine

Anonymous said...

I am so proud of Carolyn for getting out of that abuse! I had NO idea it was that bad. I have fostered a few of the FLDS children, and let me tell you, they are TOTALLY brainwashed, and beaten down. They are abused in EVERY way, and if they ever come out of it, it will be a true miracle. My heart goes out to all of the women stuck in this situation. And to all of them who are happy in this, it's only because they lack the education to get out. NO ONE should have to be abused. The "outsiders" are very kind, loving people. It was SATAN'S plan to control people. Not Jesus Christ's. They are followers of satan NOT GOD! Too bad they are all going down in the end. It's the GOOD "outsiders" living the law of the land and our constitution, or what's left of it. All I have to say is to GROW up, GET OUT! Women are taking care of themselves all over the world! And they are HAPPY. NOT SLAVES!

Anonymous said...

I cannot believe this is the 21st Centuary and this is still going on. I have read Escape 3 times now and it still shocks me. The men within FLDS need to be gotten rid of, hopefully as slowly and as painfully as possible. I'd sure help in the funding of that.

Women within the FLDS, please get out while you can, there is a life for you outside. Much love x

Timsierramist said...

I read ESCAPE a several month's ago and it's story has not left my mind. While doing some solo camping in Zion National Park, I decided to make the drive to Colorado City for myself, about 15 miles away. It was an eye opener to say the least. I wasn't even sure I was in America anymore. Driving around watching these people go about their daily lives, there's no doubt they put a lot of hard work into their town. Their dedication and steadfast is unwavering, and we can maybe even learn a thing or two about that from them. But, far beyond that small admiration, I felt sorry for each and every single person living there. There is a real life and real freedom they will never know. Freedom given to every American. Freedom they don't even know exists or are too weighed down via threats to even think about moving towards. They will never know it because they are so far brainwashed into this sect, that the lightbulb comes on for very few. The fear in Loss of family, status, finances and maybe the fear of the unknown is too great? The punishment if caught perhaps? The FLDS are masters and absolute experts in their art of brainwashing, trickery and entrapment, and false happiness, not religion. And while I believe there are members who are truelly loving and caring families, to the extent that the brainwashing will allow, there are certainly others who would only abuse this power. In the end, the law of the land, which the Bible commands we follow, says Bigamy (or Polygamy) is ILLEGAL and for something like this to happen in the United States in this day and age is a catastrophe. Yet, with a serious crime like Polygamy, prosecution is very hard, given the "lack" of victims who would come forward. Oh woe to those poor women, children and "Lost Boys". What can we do, honestly and being realistic, to stop this?! ...nothing...

~Tim Alcoser

Becz said...

Hey there,

Have been reading about the FLDS for years now and find it facinating... Just wondering if any of the people posting are ex-members?
I'm Australian & we have nothing like this over here however religion is becomming more prominent due to immigration etc and that scares me.
I have always been taught that being a good person is your own personal responsibility and to take pride in myself and my behaviour towards others, I do not behave out of fear of a higher power you dont need to belive in god to be a good person.
Religon is really an affliction that is destroying our communities & societies... Think of how many people have died in the name of religion & we as a civilation are to afraid to stop injustices even though the 'theories' of EVERY religion have been proven as basically fairy tales that have no basis in truth & have been scientifically disproven. I dream of a world with no religon where everyone takes responsibility for their own actions. If you would like a logical point of view have a read of anything by the internationally renowned scientist Richard Dawkins... If one person hears or sees something that's not there it's called a delusion.. If many people see or feel something that's not there it's called religon! Think logically & think for yourselves xox

Anonymous said...

To the person who compared the FLDS practices to the practices of the Zulu tribes - watch out! This will be a huge insult. ;) The FLDS still believe that the black man is evil. I'm sure they would be horrified to have their "holy" beliefs compared to that of evil incarnate.

Anonymous said...

I hope that Faunita is getting the love and care she so deserves. Kicking her out shows what kind of group the FLDS under Warren Jeffs (may he and Merrill burn in hell)

Anonymous said...

Um, have any of them even read the REAL Bible? The whole CULT thing is an abomination to GOD. These people are seriously sick and need either the electric chair or healing. Merrill is not at all in favour with GOD. Give up the abuse and man-made rules and follow Jesus, he's your only salvation, not some funny bloke with serious problem. The Zulus aren't a cult, they have no religion.

Anonymous said...

FAUNITA IS DEAD!

Anonymous said...

Our politicians must get rid of these bastards (Jessop,Jeffs) who are pedophiles and use "religion" to try and hide their crimes.

Education is the key to setting the girls/women trapped in these situations free-that is why these murderers and rapists (Jessop,Jeffs) will go to any lengths to see that education is limited.

This CULT (FLDS, Bountiful) embodies evil of the worst kind.
Hopefully the courts will find polygomy to be a crime under the constitution and charge these pedophiles/rapists/murderers with crimes against humanity and put them in jail where they belong.

Jennifer

Randi Shelton said...

I just read carolyn jesssops book escape. I can't believe the way these women lived. Warren jeffs and merril jessops may you rot.