Monday, April 24, 2006

Have the warrenites given their last grain of rice?

I heard a personal prophecy from an obscure source several years ago that the people would give their last grain of rice to support the "profit" while their children go hungry.

I hear today there are familys who give all their money in extortion funds. The home is without food, the children go hungry, but the people have been told to not accept anything from "appostate" relatives. One father tried to give groceries for his grandchildren but they were refused.

Is this a matter of pride? Of not wanting to accept false charity? Or is it yet another testimony of warren neglecting his duties to a people whom he hijacked?

Will the hungry, sleepless nights of their children awaken a few more sheeple?


Anonymous said...

Have you read the parable on the flour? There was a Prophet who was hated by the people. He was going to leave the city. God told him to go to a certian house. There would be one to feed him. He went. There was a woman in this house. Her son was dieing. She told him that she was cooking her last bit of grain to feed her and her son before she died. she told him she would feed him also. He then did give her a blessing. He told her that her flour barral would never be empty. There was a famine in the land. And from that day though the famine she and her son was fed. Now if you have begun to feel like your last grain of rice has fallen from you, Who then is at fault? And in death is great glory for the faithful. It is also written, for the ill; nurture them with all tenderness and herbs. If they die they die unto Christ. If they live they live unto Christ, and not by the hand of an enamie. If you are one against Christ, know then your barral is empty, when it is full of rice. And rancid is the taste. Bitter is the cup. And sweet is death to the faithful, as also the walk of life.

Anonymous said...

I do not know faithful, could it be that your heart has become bitter against our God. YOu said you was not sent away. What then is your battle? Do you consider people who follow Jesus, sheeple. Read the parable on this too if you would like. I do not consider myself sheeple nor do i consider you this. I wish you also peace. This nation is at war. Can it be that you are on the battle feild, and not the garden. I then will light a candle for you too. May you also find peace in your heart before you walk into the next land. May your children follow in peaceful paths all there life. anger and strife is a terrible burden to carry. I know.

mugwump said...

If the prophet has ordered a hunger strike what right does he have to exclude himself and closest associates?

Would Jesus set such a selfish example?

Jesus said, "Suffer the little children to come to me and forbid them not, for such is the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 19:14

"Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practice wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties."
Psalm 141:4

"But whoso shall offend one of these ittle ones which believe in me, it were beter for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Matthew 18:6

Anonymous said...

Mugwump I don't think Warren has asked for a hunger strike.

It is a forced hunger, because the followers have been duped to give all their money, talents and time to further the Storehouses of Warren.

Anonymous said...

I wonder why this government would send water instead of food boxes. Hum, I wonder what is up. Maybe it is because a certian retard told the cops that if the truckers shut down this whole nation would. Then the cops begin to give the truckers water. And this grew to a certian point; and incidentally these people know the retard was not bluffing, and fasting never hurt any one. Mug wump.... Wump did you mug?

Anonymous said...

And it is written, "Whom, so ever offend a little one of mine, twould be better that a stone was hung about their kneck and cast into the deep blue sea." And it is written, "Who so is the least among you, is the greatest of all." Also it is written, "As you do unto the least of these so you do it unto me." And i would wonder why the government would fast with us. Could it be possible they want to keep peace?

Anonymous said...

And faithful; was you enjoying the water today. I was wondering why you did not respond with your normal fire. Water is good for the soul. Makes good; and the government is good for one thing. All equal work under abilityies. Maybe your husband could get a job, what with the government giving water in there food boxes and making squatters pay taxes. Just think, his secratary could be his other girl and he would have lots of money. Maybe even make an honest pay check. What do you think. Do you want to fast with me. Sorry, i did not go get a government box. I enjoy drinking water from the canyon. I always have. good by. enjoy your cup.

mugwump said...

You are not to muzzel the ox that grinds the flour.

If Warren is not the cause of the shortage of food, who is? And don't try to blame it on the government. Why, if you follow mormon practice of putting up three years supply of food in the pantry have you run out? Did Warren not only take food off your table, out of the plates of your children, but also rob you of your food for future use? If the tribulation is imminant, as Waren predicts how are you to be sustained? Are you to be sacrificed to ensure that Warren's "elect" can eat?

How has Warren met a single one of his promises to you? His goals are self seeking and utterly selfish. He will have a settlement in southwest Texas with gardens and vineyards, beef, chicken and all good things to eat. He is having his hatchet men buy compost from all the surrounding feed lots to spread on the fields. Why? There is no top soil.

There is no sewer plant. If operations are not brought into compliance with law fines alone will not satisfy state demands.

Warren behaves as if money supplies are unlimited. How is your family making out? Can you pay your taxes?

Unfinished projects and expensive equipment is haphazardly spread all over the hillsides. Are you paying rental on that un-used equipment? It's just sitting there, rusting away.

West Texas is in a season of drought. Water use will be monitored and authorities will not allow the water table to be depleted. Where is your Eden?

Go ahead, let your children starve. You don't care, as long as your demon possessed pedophilic leader's sexual cravings are met. Throw out your elderly. They are worthless to your leader. His intent is to meet his greed, not your need.

Anonymous said...

And just in case you are fresh out of cups, there was a stray one out by the church building last time i was out walking. If you get real desperate, there is an encredible mission over in Amirrillo Texas. They feed street people three meals a day. You have to listen to there church service first, and they sing encredible. There are lots of mattersess under the bridge. People pile up. None of them seemed sad. They was happy. Lots of company. They was smoking there drugs, waiting for another check, so they could get more drugs. I think they figured it was a free high. After stitting with a Marijania smoker who was a certified Technition in the mental health department, and he looked at my med's and told me what they had me on was worse than any thing on the street and quite comparable to meth. Meth with a kick. I am sure he was well quilified. He knew his drugs inside and out. I would not share mine though. I told him i would help him, but i would not pay for his drugs. I told him how to get off drugs, cold turkey. encredible experince.

What, Oh; you are not on drugs. Well, excuse me. I shall go back to my starvation. Maybe i will get lucky. Maybe i will find some food today. They have encrecredible things in peoples trash. Makes good feasting. ding. dong.

Mean time in the real world. The government gave water in there food boxes. Neat. And life goes on. neat. wow. I do not see any one else with out. I wonder what they would do with out our taxes. just think; they would have to get a job too. I could take money from you all too. neat. I could work for the government. Take money. Tell people they are dumb. and watch them walk the street. I liked texas. It was nothing like Arizoina. I asked them what my job was in this mission. They laughed at me. I thought they was joking. The people in Flagstaff, made me work very hard, when i was throwing up, had diaria, and had just taken my entire months worth of pills. How-ever I did live through this experience. I am sure i shall live through what-ever else this government springs on me. If i do not, well it is over any how. ding dong

And there is water in the clouds too. My hat is off to you too Texas. I think we need a few more missions and encredible singing. to go with the springing water.

Just a word from the retard.....

Oh, i forgot one thing; The people in the mental health over there was encredible too. They let me play the piano, and gave me a quilt like my mother makes. encredible state, i would say. People are at least people, and needless to say, i never starved to death. Much to the sorrow of Arizona government. ding dong

Anonymous said...

Encredible state Texas; People there had a right to say no to drugs. I tried it in Arizona. I told them no to drugs. My life improved dramaticly. My hats off to you Texas, But only in a salute. And if you want the rain, ask God. He can give you any thing. if he does not give you rain, try a walk-about. encredible experience.

onthestreet said...

A rain-dance might bring the rains, or a morning stroll the dews from heaven.

Water-wells might bring them gains, from adorning knoll, without distain.

The moisture from one's own mouth, if the truth you drink, ye shall not thirst.

Anonymous said...

First verse salutes rain god

Second verse salutes love of money

Third verse salutes self

None of the three come from a rational mind

Faithful Woman said...

sory Ruth, I was buisy taking care of my children. Making sure they were fed.
I really do have another life to live, I don't depend entirely on the blog.

I very carefully avoided saying anything about the government feeding the people as it is a touchy subject with the general population of the United States.

I read your fable. And there is a story from the BOM where men who were converted to the church were persecuted and forced to watch their families being burned to death.
If that were a test of God and He wanted the people to go through it, and didn't allow me to do anything about it, then so be it. But I would not consider that I had done my part if I didn't try with all of my migtht to do something about it.

Anonymous said...

It is very wonderful to hear that you are feeding your children well. Is there any other's you can think of who are not being fed? I am glad to hear that you are in a wonderful house. I am glad to hear your husband is with you. Can you think of any other wonderful things that are happening? I could tell you a hundred. Water was deliviered to the city. Birds are singing. Tree's are in full bloom. The sky is balmy and it rained a beautiful rain storm. And it is wonderful that you do all you can.

Faithful Woman said...

My roses are about to bloom.

I was wondering what the deal was with the water being delivered. Why was that a significant event?

Anonymous said...

I would not know; you are the one who posted about starving, fasting and such. Every thing looks fine to me. All I seen was water being delivered to the people. I am generally not one to complain about what the government or any one else does. have a Great day. I just wondered why you was posting such weird things. Tell me, what is up for real? I mean who is with out right now. Maybe i could help them with a food basket. Gee such theatrics. What is the big deal with you? Obvioulsy all is well in your house.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (4/25/2006 11:28 AM):

First verse salutes rain god.
REPLY: God brings the rain. You call saluting Him unrational?

Second verse salutes love of money.
REPLY: Since when does money flow from wells. You own consciousness seems to be stuck on the filthy lucre.

Third verse salutes self.
REPLY: “To thine own self be true. The true-self is truth.

Then no one has to starve.

rumor-has-it said...

If a church or religion ceases to be SIMPLE, it ceases to be of Jesus Christ.

The Church of Christ is all about PEOPLE. If people are NOT important then it is not of Jesus.

saar said...

There have and always will be people who have everything they need or could possibly want. Check out all the new BMW's in town. Wally Jessop, Sam Allred, Rosa Barlow.

And there are those who will give every last dolllar they have and wear the same underwear for 10 years and eat potatoes and gravy for the rest of their life -- to give to the prophet and the "kingdom of God".
They close their eyes to the class distinction and how much those who do not work actually have. They think that everyone else has the same heart they do. But they are wrong. There are givers, There are takers. The Takers outnumber the givers 10 to 1. It is just a matter of time, before someone is going to have to get a JOB.

Take a look at Dowayne Barlow and Lyle Jeffs and Bob Barlow. Every business they touch turns to S***. And now they are running the Church. Can you imagine what the church is going to be like under their direction?

Anonymous said...

Why would someone do this to their family?

Why would women hop from one man to the next?

Why don't the women stand up and protect their children?

onthestreet said...

rumor-has-it said (4/26/2006 10:21 PM):

If a church or religion ceases to be SIMPLE, it ceases to be of Jesus Christ.The Church of Christ is all about PEOPLE. If people are NOT important then it is not of Jesus.

STREET’s Reply: Says who, some damned rumor? Look what the Lord says about the “simple”:

Folly and the Way of Fools (Chapter 6b)They are simple-minded, undeveloped, naive, gullible. They are inexperienced to ... …it is abomination to fools to depart from evil (Proverbs 13:19; authors/Walter_Porter/chapter6b.htm

(Pro 1:4) To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. (Pro 1:5) A wise {man} will hear, and will increase learning;

Psalm 19:7 The LORD's law is perfect, restoring the soul.
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. (KJV) The law of the LORD is perfect.

For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

You say the true church is “all about people”, but what does the Lord say? “FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT” Also (Mt. 10):

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

onthestreet said...

You see? "All about people", but the Lord casts them out. That is the true church, one that cleanses itself continually.

God's Church "simple"? The simple "is an abomination to me" saith the Lord, and:

"The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple".

See? Getting rid of the simple, and bringing in the Wisdom of God.

Without some depth of meaning, your seed is planted among thorns and stony ground, saith the Lord.

Faithful Woman said...


Yup, for sure, simple is the opposite of anything the great and all powerful Street has to post.

Faithful Woman said...

I can't publish names of families going without. That would damage their crumbling pride too much, and expose them to unneccessary humiliation.

The best route is to quietly observe and maybe ask who knows who needs food. Then you will have to get inventive as to how to go about getting it to them.

A food basket just might be rejected if they think it came from an "appostate".

Anonymous said...

I am not one bit surprised that you can not name a family that is going without.

rumor-has-it said...

I could name 100 families that are going without, but somehow lists seem to get me in trouble.

Anonymous said...

Now that does not surprise me either.
faithful,I think maybe you and your lovely husband need to go out dancing and romancing. I think you may need a break from religion.

And rumor has it; what about it, rumor had it. What about rumor has a way of getting around town, before truth has time to get its boots on, but a lie falls of its own weight.

Faithful Woman said...

Didn't say couldn't, said wouldn't.

I do know of a few of them. Although I don't know all of the ones who are hurting so.

If a leaf falls in a forest and no one is there, does it still make a noise?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Anonymous said...

Reply to Snon 4/28/2006 3:02 PM

Why are you trying to belittle what Faithful Woman is saying about families doing without food to pay Warren's demands for money?

I believe her acknowleging the need for food much more than I believe your negating her statements.

Warren is greedy and self-centered and with the current price of gas, I have no doubt that his demands for cash from the faithful have left many in dire straits.

Please be more charitable instead of being so critical.

In other words, act like a Christian instead of a twit.

Anonymous said...

To all FLDS members...Open your eyes take a look into the real world. I know you are reading this. If you don't look into the real world it means you are full of pride. Life is what we make it. Have enough self respect to give it a try. Families are forever...
You all think we are just trying to bring Warren Jeffs down the truth is We are sick of all the child crimes. I was raped as a child my mom, and a couple of my friends. I didn't even realize it was wrong because I was supposed to follow my priesthood head. Don't punish yourselves. Get help you don't even have to go to the law if you don't want to there is many of us that would be willing to do it without the attention of the media... Remember some of us do care...Spread the word...

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (4/30/2006 11:51 PM):
Reply to Snon 4/28/2006 3:02 PM

Why are you trying to belittle what Faithful Woman is saying about families doing without food to pay Warren's demands for money?
I believe her acknowleging the need for food much more than I believe your negating her statements.
Warren is greedy and self-centered and with the current price of gas, I have no doubt that his demands for cash from the faithful have left many in dire straits.
Please be more charitable instead of being so critical.
In other words, act like a Christian instead of a twit.

STREET’s Reply: More to the point, why do so many belittle some when they post the very word of God, including the references where they can look them up themselves, as if God was the criminal for saying it. Talk about denial. “Warren’s demands for money” is the very thing that God commands in tithes and offerings, throughout your Christian Bible, and you mock it because it is being manifest through a man. Yet, not one single FLDS man or woman would give a penny if they didn’t love doing so. In fact, they give their all, AS GOD COMMANDS in you Christian Bible, and you mock it.

I believe that He’s acknowleging the need for tithes and offerings, and the sacrifice of all earthly things (ALL), while you negate His commandments from the heavens, branding God Himself a fool, and a greedy one at that. Is that your charitable Christianity in practice, or proving yourself A TWIT, an enemy of God.

rumor-has-it said...

I bet street is one of those "u-stabees" that still send money to Warren Jeffs to the address in Las Vegas. Can't quite make the rent, but his $1000 tithing is paid faithfully.

Any he prob asks every person he meets...Are you for Warren?

Anonymous said...

Warren lives an expensive and lavish lifestyle while his faithful followers have trouble making ends meet and feeding their families.

Is this the act of a generous "Prophet" or the act of a greedy "Profit".

Warren would NEVER give a faithful follower the clothes off of his back, but he would expect that the faithful give him their last dime.


The faithful lovingly give their 10% tithings, but Warren DEMANDS MORE.

I don't think the extra REQUIRED money is for building up the Kingdom of God.

It is for Warren to buy expensive cars, motorhomes and live surrounded by extravagance.

He lives in excess while the faithful providers scrape by.

This is the real Warren!

The Prophets before Warren appreciated the tithings of the community. Warren does not. Warren expects it. Warren wastes it on sinful things that he wants but won't allow the faithful to have.

Warren Jeffs is a false Prophet!

What did the bible say about sloth and gluttony?

Your Prophet Warren is practicing both.

Anonymous said...

Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay.

Anonymous said...

I really don't think WJ is gorging himself on food, he's too skinny for that.

Anonymous said...

No, Warren is gorging himself on luxurious cars and other vehicle.

Warren is gorging himself on the latest (and EXPENSIVE) electronic technology to spy on his followers.

Warren is gorging himself on buying up land throughout the continent so he can hide out while the faithful followers work their behinds off to build the buildings and tend the fields for Warren.

Warren has it made loafing while the faithful followere work and toil.

The work - he runs.

Its good to be prophet.

Anonymous said...

As much money as WJ reportedly has at his disposal he may be seeking a sex change. On second thought he would lose his power, authority and couldn't sodomize little boys any more. My what a spiritual model! Heil Jeffs, der Fuhrer

Acid Reflux

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said...
Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay. 5/06/2006 4:06 PM

STREET'S Reply: That's right! There you go. All the people need to do is look at 9/11, look at Katrina, look at the Asian tsunami, look at the worst hurricane season last year, in all of history, all this since the courts began rejecting this man, and especially the events of this very year just past, perfectly coinciding with the charging of the Prophet of God as a mad man and a criminal, as they did Christ, and now you are angry?

Rev. 11:18 - And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Anonymous said...

Could be these events came about because WJ hasn't been apprehanded yet.
It is all in the interpretation.

onthestreet said...

Interpretation: A man who brings life into the world abundantly, as God commands, while the world and its governments promote the slaying of little children in the millions every year.

Which one will God judge? Which do you think He is judging? Did He wipe out New Orleans, or the City of the Saints, the Asian coasts by tsunami, or the City of the Saints? The Gulf Coasts by hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, or the City of the Saints?

Now, He also said: My judgements will begin at the House of God. Just look at Colorado City. It is certainly being judged, even by God's minister, the law and government of the land. Yet he also says "I will judge the nations thereafter.

It began at the House of God, and he bless American in the 1913 war, and the 1945 war, until the 1953 Raid. Then what happened? Vietnam, Korea, ....Iraq, failure after failure, "until the consumption decreed", saith the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Wish You Were Here

So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell,
blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

And did they get you trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change? And did you exchange
a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl,
year after year,
running over the same old ground. What have we found?
The same old fears,
wish you were here.
Pink Floyd

Sounds like it could have been written for those that follow Warren.

Anonymous said...

To hear the talking heads on T.V. all these disasters are George W. Bush's fault. Should there be an earthquake in San Francisco or Tokyo, Mt. St. Helens erruption GWB will be seen at fault as well.


onthestreet said...

There are acts of men, and there are "acts of God", but the same God ruling in them all, executing His justice upon the nations. President Bush is God's minister.