Wednesday, December 06, 2006

six more families leave town

six more homes were found vacant...Two of the homes were occupied by Jeffs'. Where they are now is anyones guess, since there isn't much building going on in Texas.

75 comments:

Anonymous said...

There's already enough built in Texas to house a quarter of Short Creek and the constrution continues.

Anonymous said...

Where they are now is anyones guess



maby jackson county?

uncaduff

ATAR_i said...

Occupied by Jeffs? His other wives, his brothers, cousins?

How long have the homes been vacant? Is it recent, or just noticed?

Big families, faithful families? Anyone have any information.

Anonymous said...

If they are faithful FLDS, maybe they went to South Dakota. I understand additional property was purchased there recently.

Are these families related to you? If you let us know who they are, we might be able to help you find them.

Inside_Out said...

Can you tell me which Jeffs? I am one and would like to make an attempt at keeping track of my family. Thanks!

Inside_Out said...

If you have other specific family names, that would be great as well. I keep forgetting that my brothers and sisters have a different last name now. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

and it looks as if Marshal Helaman will have to answer questions after all about the missing UEP property.


http://myeldorado.net/

red rocks girl said...

I know that Dale Jeffs and his family left. Warrens sister that married Dale Johnson. We don't know the other families that left because of the big switch-around that happened a couple years ago...

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the families or the father's names or at least the addresses of the houses that are vacant? I would like to know if my family is still in CC or are they gone? any info on the following people is very much appreciated. please e-mail me at annonymousofficegirl@yahoo.com.

Stanley Jessop
Boyd Roundy
Leroy Johnson (son of Jody Johnson)
Lyle Jeffs
Merrill Keate (son of Alan Keate)
Joseph Jessop
John Jessop
ect....

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a song we used to sing out on the farm, with minor adjustments....

"Pass my other mother over to my other brother, pass my other mother this away. So I passed my other mother over to my other brother, and we both had our hands full every day."

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the names of the others that left or the addresses of the houses that are vacant? I would realy like to keep track of my family. any information would be very much appreciated on the following people.

Stanley Jessop
Boyd Roundy
Lyle Jeffs
Roy Johnson (son of Jody Johnson)
Merrill Keate (son of Alan Keate)
Joseph Jessop (son of Stanley)
John Jessop (son of Stanley)

again, any info would be appreciated. you can e-mail me at annonymousofficegirl@yahoo.com

thank you in advance.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone visited Willie Jessop's strip bars in South Dakota? He likes to brag about the size of tips the patrons give.

Anonymous said...

Isn't Willie wanted by the State? If you know where he is you should let someone that can do something about i know.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute: strip bars? I thought those were "wicked" ?

Anonymous said...

Which William Jessop? Do you know his middle name?

Anonymous said...

annomousofficegirl??? Is that You, Sarah?

Anonymous said...

Willie with R and W. Son of Glade.
If the state is looking for him, they should check in with his brother in SLC.

Anonymous said...

Strip bars in northern South Dakota or southern South Dakota?

Anonymous said...

There are two Willies Jessops folks.

One was wanted to serve papers on a civil suit that would be William Timpson Jessop. He was finally served by publication.

William Jessop AKA Willy Jessop Warren's body guard.

I understand he has a new biker look.

Anonymous said...

There are two Willies Jessops folks.

One was wanted to serve papers on a civil suit that would be William Timpson Jessop. He was finally served by publication.

William Jessop AKA Willy Jessop Warren's body guard.

I understand he has a new biker look.

Anonymous said...

Ye, this is Sarah

Anonymous said...

Ye, this is Sarah

Anonymous said...

So are the strip clubs in Pringle, near the South Dakota FLDS property? Which William is running them?

Anonymous said...

If this is true, then Willy is doing something even the Corlione family wouldn't do.

Anonymous said...

I heard it was Dee Jessop that had the biker look.

Willie Jessop (Glades son) was bragging that patrons at his South Dakota strip bar tipped bigger tips than his brother's patrons at his brother's Salt Lake City strip bar. His brother is Travis.

If I had more time and didn't have better things to do, I would research the Secretary of State business filings in South Dakota until I found Willie's name (or a corporation name that I would research until I found the list of owners) so I could check out his establishment and maybe post a few pretty pictures.

Maybe there is someone out there who has the time to prove or disprove a few elements of willie's bragging.

Anonymous said...

It is the same Willie Jessop who called himself a dirt digger in one of the news articles I read about him at a deposition. Sounds like he digs more than dirt, sewage maybe?

Anonymous said...

maybe just put an itch under Mankin's collar
from one local rag to another
i bet they could dig up that little strip club
maybe throw a few pictures up on the website

probably couldn't get any kind of legal action
but would make for some good 'ol "stinky" press
which everyone loves so much

plus those folks near the strip club
would probably have a problem with an owner
who associates with old men who think it's ok
to impregnate little girls

keep sweet eldorado
stg

Anonymous said...

I live near Pringle and the SD compound. There are no strip joints in Pringle not in Custer or Fall River counties. The closest one I know if Shot Gun willie's in Rapid city

Anonymous said...

Shot Gun Willie's doesn't appear to be registered in Rapid City, or any other city in South Dakota. Does it have a different name?

fttc said...

Anon 8:57

Have you had any interaction with the FLDS in SD? I haven't heard much about them and would like any news that can be given. I think I may have relatives there.

Anonymous said...

There is a shotgun willies in Denver. Think that one is it?
Check out google search.

Anonymous said...

Shotgun Willie's in Colorado showed three different records.
Two of them had Bavaria Restaurant, Inc. listed as the true name of registrant. The third had William L. Rolf listed.

This doesn't look like it is the one!

**Some are collecting "pennies for the prophet", while others are collecting "panties for the prophet". Now, just change the spelling of prophet to profit and it will all make sense.

Anonymous said...

Willie's strip joint is supposed to be located in Rapid City.

I'll see what I can find.

Anonymous said...

I found a listing for: "Midwest Hotties" at 429 Kansas City Street #8 in Rapid City, SD - sounds like a strip club

The list of Strip Clubs I found in South Dakota are:

ABERDEEN:
1) Pirates Cove 331 N. Roosevelt Street 605-225-6800
2) Silver Dollar Bar 119 S. Main Street 605-225-3502

BOX ELDER:
1) Belle Star Saloon & Casino 288 Box Elder Road 605-923-4577

DALLAS:
1) Cody's Bar & Grill Highway 18 605-835-9887
2) Frank's Days Highway 9 605-835-9686

FORT PIERRE
1) Hop Scotch Club 118 N. Deadwood Street 605-223-9870

LESTERVILLE
1) Jump 'N Joes (formerly Swede's Bar) 605-364-7401
2) Lanie's Golden Nugget Main Street 605-364-7799

MITCHELL
1) Kongo Klub 4901 N. Main Street 605-996-9415

RAPID CITY:
1) Shotgun Willie's 2808 N. Main Street 605-341-7253

SALEM:
1) Racehorses 2 miles East of Salem on State Rode 38 605-201-1934

SIOUX FALLS:
1) Scarkett O'Hara's 3201 S. Carolyn Avenue 605-362-8911

WATERTOWN:
1) Southfork Lounge 1905 5th Street 605-886-4556

WINTER:
1) Holiday House Gentleman's Club 31671 S. Highway 44 605-842-0285

YANKTON:
1) Cockatoo Club 110 E. 3rd 605-665-9594

Two additional listings I found, but could not find address or phone numbers for are:

Emma's Lounge and Casino in ABERDEEN and Peacock in WINNER

Anonymous said...

Trying to figure out the strip club Travis owns in Salt Lake

There is the Crazy Goat Saloon at 119 South West Temple registered to a Daniel Darger (Colorado City name) and there is Raskals located at 832 E 3900 S and registered to a Cory Draper (another CC surname).

Anonymous said...

You forgot....

RAPID CITY
Lovey's Outer Limits,,I-90 Exit 61,
Rapid City, SD, 605-348-9336

Shotgun Willie's not the one unless he is manager or something.
Carol Fazenbaker is the officer of the corporation.

Org ID Number Corporation Name Incorporation/ Qualification Date Home State
DB028521 SHOTGUN WILLIES, INC. 06/29/1989 SD
Registered Agent Name Registered Office Address
FAZENBAKER, CAROL 2808 W MAIN
Registered Office City Registered Office State and Zip Code
RAPID CITY SD 57702-8105
Directors Officers

Anonymous said...

So is the Willie Jessop that you say owns the Shotgun Willie's strip club in Rapid City still following Warren? If so, does he pay tithing on the money made at the strip club? Does he live on the Pringle compound? Does he have teenage daughters, or young wives? Do they live at the Pringle compound?

Anonymous said...

Fttc,

I live near the Pringle Compound and no I have not had any interaction with the FLDS here. I see them in there vehicles which come and go around the clock.

fttc said...

Thanks for the response. Is there a lot of building activity there then? Do you know if there are businesses being run from there? Do you know how many people are there? Sorry for all the questions but other than a few pictures posted many months ago I have seen very little news from that area. Thanks for any info you can give.

Anonymous said...

FTTC,
There are 2 log homes that have been there for over 2 years. They recently completed an 15000 Sq ft log building that the county says they listed on the permits as a dormitory.hotel.motel. On the east side there is a metal builidng and it looks like they have added additional rooms to it. As far as businesses on the property I don't know. They have 140 acres total and it is fenced and you can not see much from the road that crosses the property. I have seen woman and children from a very far distance but at the distance I could not give you a description of them. If the woman and chidren are use to small town life living within the city they are not liking this area. The area is wooded and there are mountain lions, bobcats, elk, deer, and turkeys in the area. The property is located in a very remote area. There is 10 miles of dirt/gravel roads to the highway then 6 miles to Pringle. Pringle has a post office with a C-store attached and one restaurant.bar. That's it. Custer is another 12 miles away and is a tourist community. A middle size grocery store and other normal small town businesses. Rapid City is another 45 miles from Custer. Hot Springs is 35 miles to the south and it is another very small community. I guess I am not helping much, I can't give you a number of people there. There are alot of camper type trailers under the trees along with the homes. Alot of men doing work. My question to you is should I worry about my home and be afraid of this group or do they just live and let live? They are not very friendly!

Anonymous said...

I can't speak for fttc, and I don't have family members in the FLDS, but from everything I know you don't need to be afraid about them breaking into your home or doing anything like that. They mainly just "live and let live."

What I hope will concern you and lead you to take some action locally, is that 10 miles of dirt road, followed by another 6 miles to the nearest town is a long way for any young woman (let alone one with a few small children) to escape.

Please, please, please contact your state officials and ask them to support Senator Harry Reid's request for a larger federal investigation of the alleged crimes that are continuing to occur under Warren Jeff's regime.

Utah and Arizona law makers have not done enough to investigate and prosecute the crimes that are alleged to have been committed. We need law makers outside of these states to step in and demand action.

Here is a link to Senator Reid's letter to the U.S. Attorney General's office:

http://reid.senate.gov/newsroom/rec...859&&year=2006&

Senator Reid is literally the only law maker in the western US who is pushing for a larger federal investigation. Hopefully, if enough US senators and house reps push for more federal oversight, these crimes can be stopped before more victims are hurt.

To locate the addresses of your states federal lawmakers, go to:

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

fttc said...

I used to know these people, or at least some of them very well. I would say that you have nothing to worry about except if your property borders theirs they may want to purchase yours in the future. The destruction that has been wrought by this group has been mostly internal. I don't think they will bother the neighbors much. Of course any people within a community (county, state, etc.) have an impact on the entire community. If the increase in population and its effects are a concern to you then you have something to be concerned about. I think the compound there will only grow. At least until it self-destructs. Are you in immediate danger? I don't believe you are. It is sad to hear that these people are not being friendly. In the past some of them have been the most friendly people you could meet.

You have told me probably more than you know. Thanks for the information. It is almost impossible to trace the whereabouts of my relatives within the FLDS. I don't put a lot of effort into tracking them as they have made it clear to me they don't want me to know their whereabouts. I am concerned for them however and any information is helpful.

Anonymous said...

FTTC,
I am so sorry you have no idea where your family is. I can't think of anything that could be worse! Your are in my thoughts and prayers! No my property does not border theirs. A guy that had a house and 40 acres next to them did sell out this fall to them. It was his retirement home. I can''t blame him for moving!

Anonymous said...

FTTC,

Would you please tell us what FTTC stands for? You might have already told people here, but I am new here.

Anonymous said...

Brooke Adams, reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune posted that a total of twelve houses are now vacant, including these addresses:

785 N. Juniper St., Hildale, Utah (5 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms)

245 N. Richard St., Colorado City, Ariz. (6 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms)

480 N. Juniper St., Hildale, Utah (13 bedrooms, 10 bathrooms)

120 W. Johnson Ave., Colorado City, Ariz. (8 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms)

780 N. Willow St., Hildale, Utah (8 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms)

760 N. Willow St., Hildale, Utah (7 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms)

the rest of this post is at http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/

ATAR_i said...

Faithful To The Cause

right fttc?

fttc said...

Right on Atar

Anonymous said...

How about "Falling through the cracks."

fttc said...

That fits too and you are right that it was my first idea. I changed it in retrospection as I did not want to be taken as feeling sorry that I was not a part of warren's regime any longer. Did I get enough double negatives in that one?

ATAR_i said...

I don't know, but I'm breaking out the Gouda! (just kidding)

Anonymous said...

12:13 9:46
You are in no physical danger with the FLDS in SoDak. They are very peaceful and great to have around if you have an emergency...they pitch in and help no matter what the circumstances.

I have good friends from Custer and Hill City. You would be surprised at the common thought between SoDak and NoArz- conservative, hate government intrusion, patriotic to constitutional ideals, love families...

But do not, under any circumstances, invite one of them over to your house alone because they will drink all your beer. Invite two so they can keep an eye on each other.

Anonymous said...

Dear 11:22 PM

You are a fool.

ATAR_i said...

11:22 you made me laugh

Anonymous said...

I heard a rumor that Laurene's kids haven't been in school for over a week. Does anyone know whether Laurene and Val have moved? Can someone go check to see if they still live there, please?

fttc said...

I think it was Mark Twain that said something to the effect that a joke is the funniest when it has a grain of truth. That is what made the last statement of 11:22 so funny. I laughed as well. Someone has a very good sense of humor!

Anonymous said...

Oh I don't think the people from your group have any thng in common with me! I do't think we think the same and I know we live our life very different. Please don't make me out to be studid. I have read enough to know you are full of bull. I grew up here in SD and we are NOT people who marry off young girls to men old enough to be their grandfathers!

Anonymous said...

Can anyone name who has moved out? I so worry about my family still there.

Anonymous said...

12/13 9:36 I disagree with you. The FLDS that are outside of Pringle seem to be very reclusivce and have been since the day they started building. I have lived here all my life and people have always been very friendly and "neighborly" these people are neither! I don't think we have anything in common...I don't have plurals wives and never would, I let my children attend school, get a good education and make choices for themselves. I would never allow my daughter to be put in a situation where she HAD to be a wife to someone, that is her choice. So I can not see where we are alike at all. I leave them alone and I hope they will leave my family alone. It just worries me that they live much like the people in Waco did and we do not need anything like that here.

TBM said...

fttc: I think it was Mark Twain that said something to the effect that a joke is the funniest when it has a grain of truth.

He also said that he couldn't understand why anybody would want one Mormon wife, never mind half a dozen!!!!!!! :-)

Anonymous said...

The Truth About Polygamy
By David C. Pack


http://www.thercg.org/articles/ttap.html

fttc said...

I agreed with Twain's idea in my post. Did you agree with him in yours?

Anonymous said...

The "Truth about Polygamy" twists things worse than the FLDS do!

Anonymous said...

anom 12/16, 4:34,

I'll help you out here,

"Truth about Polygamy"

In America, a man who sleeps with many?
...a womanizer

In FLDS, a man who sleeps with many?
...a saint

anything else you need to know?

keep sweet eldorado
stg

TBM said...

Why am I immediately cynical about the truth of anything titled "The Truth About ..."?

TBM said...

fttc: I agreed with Twain's idea in my post. Did you agree with him in yours?

I'm assuming that was my post you're refering to? Well, I'm kinda fond of my Mormon wife. Really not interested in any more. And my post (as well as Twain's original comment) above was a joke. You know "a joke"? It's like, not meant to be taken seriously?

Oh lighten up, for crying out loud!

Anonymous said...

Stg, I'll help you out here.

A man out in the world having several sexual partners and not being married to them or having any life long commitment to them or the children they create

....a perfectly fine man who's just sowing his wild oats.

A polygamist man married to several women having children and sacrificing everything to try and provide for them

....a dirty SOB?

PB

Anonymous said...

"A polygamist man married to several women having children and sacrificing everything to try and provide for them" from PB

Try a polygamist man trained by the priesthood in techniques that control the women. Techniques such as guilt, brainwashing, isolation and economic control. She never has a chance to find herself and her true worth, she only sees herself as the husband allows.

Call me "Dark Spirit"

Anonymous said...

What about abandoning your legitimate family for unworthiness and going to Zion and starting over with a fresh new family?

ATAR_i said...

First, let's call a spade a spade.

A mans not a dirty SOB just because he has more than one wife, or because he's sowed a few wild oats.

It's all the other stuff that makes someone a dirty SOB.

For instance, did they have sex with kids? Then yeah they qualify

Do they beat their wives, or allow their children to be the sexual partners of other adults. Then yeah they qualify

Do they care for their children, feed, clothe, educate, their families, respecting them and loving them. They don't qualify.

I don't think polygamy or monogamy is the measuring stick for dirty SOB - it's all the other stuff.

fttc said...

tbm

I guess I forgot my smiley. Didn't mean to get your goat.

Anonymous said...

atar_i,

Well said.

PB

TBM said...

fttc, in that case, I apologize for misinterpreting your tone. Always a danger in blogs without emoticons :-)

TBM said...

atar_i, fttc, uncaduff and muggsey:

I'm off out of town, and won't post again until after the holidays. Have a good Christmas, all of you. And I'm looking forward to further debate after Christmas.

muggsey said...

Looking forward to your return!

Have a safe and sane celebration of Jesus birth.

Anonymous said...

One of the requirements of a member of the priesthood, is to prepare the daughter for marriage. This preparation starts as young as eight years of age. Sometimes younger in some cases.