Saturday, May 13, 2006

Blind Eye to Culture of Abuse

Winston looking a little concerned! Posible criminal charges?
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=cb049462-c88b-4476-aeb8-fd97dc9bf00a


If my name was Rodney Parker, Ron Thompson, David Nuffer or Steven Snow, as an attorney I might be wondering if the new claims of Organized Crime under the RICO Act apply to greedy lawyers? It seems Rod Parkers name still appears as the registered agent for several FLDS firms. Rulon & Warren were not "rocket scientist" but they did hire influential attorneys.

Where would a congressional probe end? I bet there are few politicians wondering the same question tonight! The Los Angeles Times noted the 87 witnesses for Sam Barlow in the 1987 Arizona DPS investigation. A who is who from local government. There are a few more that contributed to the Enterprise since and if it is Organized Crime as General Shurtleff suggests, then I might just enjoy watching this show. Can't call it BIG LOVE! I'll let you suggest some titles...

I suggest the following reading;
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sect12may12,0,3267921.story?coll=la-home-headlines

7 comments:

Obstructionist said...

No room for debate, the Los Angeles Times has the book and can do exact quotes;

The practice is sanctioned in the FLDS text "In Light and Truth: Raising Children in the Family Order of Heaven." The book, which includes such chapters as "Your Husband Is Your Lord and Master," says any man dishonoring his priesthood or marriage covenant "forfeits his wives and children."

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-holm13may13,1,3435771.story?coll=la-news-a_section

This one is Richard Holms story. Family values? Where a wives and children are reassigned at the drop of a hat.

Anonymous said...

In a nut shell; the investigators are singing a new tune. Kirk Smith as Washington County Sheriff is quoted below, followed by someone from the mainstream church. We see this issue seperatley than those from the mainstream church!

April 2001
"Someone on the outside can worry that children are being groomed to be polygamists, but I can't charge into someone's home on that worry any more than I could if someone told me that Mormon parents are grooming their children to someday be LDS missionaries."
May 2003
"They are all over the place," Washington County Sheriff Kirk Smith said. "We have them literally in every county in the state of Utah. It's not uncommon in the Western United States."
May 12th 2006 SLC Tribune
Polygamy never renounced
With Warren Jeffs on the lam, and HBO's "Big Love" giving the world a look at polygamy in a modern context, there has been much discussion and controversy surrounding polygamy and the LDS Church doctrine regarding plural wives.
As a lifelong church member and student of LDS scripture and prophetic teachings, my understanding of the subject is that the principle of plural marriage is a fundamental doctrine of the LDS Church. It is taught in the Doctrine and Covenants (section 132) and in numerous talks and writings from LDS prophets and apostles.
LDS doctrine clearly teaches that gods and goddesses in celestial realms practice the principle of plural marriage. The doctrine is held in abeyance at the moment because of inhospitable social and legal circumstances in the United States, but it will be practiced during the millenial reign of Jesus Christ on Earth by all who are faithful to him and his true prophets. I have yet to hear or read an official statement from the LDS Church, its prophets or apostles, that contradicts this belief.

Keith Klundt
Farmington

Anonymous said...

CHRH said...

In an interview with Larry King, Gordon Hinckley said that plural marriage was "not doctrinal" in the church. Oops.

QUESTION TO CHRH -

If it is "not doctrinal" then why is it today in the LDS MORMON's book of DOCTRINE and COVENANTS?

Sounds like current DOCTRINE to me!

Anonymous said...

I have some name suggestions:

"BIG OOPS"

"Up the Short Creek without a paddle"

"We need a new Prophet"

"See ya in the BIG House"

"RICO Warren and his mighty band of fools"

"Warren does RICO"

Anonymous said...

So what tune do you suppose that Orrin was playing on that old organ?

keep sweet eldorado
stg

Anonymous said...

Why dont someone check out the revised additon of The
Doctrine and Covenants by James E. Talmage. Revelations of More enduring Value? Quite a name for a book. The Section 132 was taking out, very interesting. Lets see what happens to the church when they try too quit printing that section. By the way, If we are't supposed to live plural marriage because its against the law. What happens if they make a law to quit paying tithing. Are they then going to say its not doctrinal.We not have to do it in this life,just the next. It sounds like the only religion people adhere to is called THE CHURCH OF POPULAR VOTE. What ever they decide becomes the true church doctrine.Please will someone give me a church that does't change because of popular vote. I'm amazed.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Mugwump:

Didn't your mother teach you not to argue with fools? You will never get them to admit defeat and there is always the possibility that a stranger watching from the outside might not be able to tell you apart.