Friday, January 20, 2006

Utah Law "HB 30" on Emancipation

Attorney General Mark Shurtleff testified before the Senate Human Services Committee in favor of HB30, which would allow homeless, runaway and forsaken teens to seek legal emancipation from their parents. Shurtleff said the bill would assist in efforts to help the so-called "lost boys" - youths shunned by their elders in polygamous communities straddling the Utah-Arizona border. Committee members unanimously endorsed HB30, but not before lawmakers pressed the state's top prosecutor for a progress report on enforcement of crimes within polygamous communities. Lawmakers asked Shurtleff if there is more the state could do to penalize polygamists who abandon their children. A Salt Lake City attorney recently prepared a mock-up of a bill that would do just that, said House committee leader Rep. Bradley G. Last. The St. George Republican suggested such a tool might be used by law enforcement to infiltrate notoriously insular polygamous sects.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

HOOOOOOOOORAY!!!! FINALLY THESE CHILDREN WILL HAVE A CHOICE. I THINK IT IS GREAT AND ALSO A LONG TIME COMING.

rumor-has-it said...

Such a great idea and yet...there are fathers in Apple Valley and St. George and Hurricane that kick their boys out too. Maybe it will be more than the system can handle. Las Vegas has the highest number nationwide of homeless from age 15 to 18.

I have brothers and sisters that are out and I do think it is a great idea. But I have met more kids in the last year that have nothing to do with CC and are out on their own. If it is good for one, it has to be good for all.

Anonymous said...

I seldom agree with M.I.B.,but,the days of "welfare polygamy"kicking boys out,bleeding the beast are over.Few would care how many wives
a man had,if there is no welfare fraud,underage wives etc.WSJ is gone.If the Flds he has left,are wise,they will look to their former
associates,the Nielsen/Naylor group and the Trenholm group.Both of these groups kept plural marriage,but the underage welfare marriages disapeared.

say what??? said...

Anon 4:23 pm:
What can the nielsen/naylor clan offer the flds? they are offshoots from centennial park, amd as far as I know don't claim to have any higher priesthood authority than a bishophric.

In fact, who can tell me what the beliefs of that group are? Do they collect tithing? baptise? do they have a tax exempt church?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous of 9.23p.m.,I don't know
why any one would think any of the various off-shoot clans,have any
thing to offer,to the former FLDS.
Not much is known about the beleifs of the Nielsens.Considering
they are mostly the old Guy Musser faction,of what is now Cenntenial Park,they may have some strange beliefs.

Georgia Gentile said...

Amen Anon.of 9:48 pm.The Trenholms
are no better.When westerners ask about the eastern clans here in Ga.I tell them think Kingstons without the incest.

Anonymous said...

The Trenholms are a very wealthy LDS family.No one has even proved they have anything to do with polygamy,at least since 1944.Where do you get your info Georgia?

Anonymous said...

I am Anonymous of 4;23pm,What I meant was not that the independant
groups had anything to offer us.Except an example.They work,pay their bills.Interact with the outside world.Not clustering together in a xenophobic town.No government agency is lining up to persicute any of them.

Anonymous said...

HEY!

That's not fair.

What's xenophobic?

Anonymous said...

I beleive that emmancipation is the idea that we are going to hold the adults responsible for the financial care of the child while still ensuring that the youth has the ability to make the changes that need to be made. Emancipation is not without its flaws.

Anonymous said...

I heard that Bistline family had a wonderful New Years Party, like they always do ...and Patrick Pipkin just happened to be there with his camera cell phone and all the people at the party are in "trouble", except for Patrick and Paul Pipkin.
What traitors! Two timin'

Anonymous said...

Xenophobia=Irrational fear of outsiders

Anonymous said...

Patrick doesn't have a camers cell phone........Not from him. Lets see the pictures.

**********RUMOR********

Or is that what this whole blog is all about *******RUMORS**********

Faithful Woman said...

His phone or not, he was there taking "evidence" to get people kicked out.

onthestreet said...

Evidence is right. Saints must be saints, and that means clean.

ATAR_i said...

You set too the bar to high for your own prophet to jump over.

onthestreet said...

Well, the Lord set the bar, did he not. Certainly, each man and woman will jump to the heights that they are capable of, some telestial, some terrestrial, and some celestial. To look to me as a God, if you really believe what you say, that I set the bar. But how high others jump is no business of our own, except those who are under our jurisdiction. Good reply, though, Tarry.

ATAR_i said...

LOL - You said it 'saints must be saints', 'and that means clean'.

I'm simply stating that's too high of a standard for your pseudo prophet. (you can call it a bar, and make all sorts of excuses for him not being able to jump over it) bottom line is - he doesn't meet your own minimum requirements.

He's neither a saint, nor is he clean.

onthestreet said...

The ones he cast out were not clean, certainly. That is the very reason they were cast out. But for the benefit of all, give us one instance, JUST ONE, that PROVES that he is unclean. If you continue to just beat around the bush, then we will just KNOW who is lying, having no truth in them. Can you put a little bit into this, and show us specific and undeniable PROOF, for everyone's benefit?

ATAR_i said...

You are unclean because you are on this blog. According to warren.

warren is unclean because he f*cks little boys, other mens wives, and little girls, steals money, property, lives.

Let me re-itterate - you are unclean - and we all know it - because you're here.

onthestreet said...

For one to just be, to merely exist, is NOT what makes them unclean. So all can see the folly (yes, uncleanliness) of your reasoning. The fact that I am here, like all of us, wherever the Lord has us, is only proof that we exist.

Yes, the Prophet directs those who are hidden up in the community of the saints to avoid the gentiles and those who are the actual ones who are unclean. I am not there, but as you know, "onthestreet". Therefore, like I've said all along, I am a sinner, and like your Lord says all along, "all have sinned". But those who are fully withdrawn from the world, like I am about to be, and am now to a great extent, certainly cannot be unclean. Intelligent people would agree with that.

ATAR_i said...

What do you mean "fully withdrawn from the world"?

onthestreet said...

No tv, no sex, no cussing, no dirty movies, no drugs, no public schools, no warfare, no abuse, no this, know that.

ATAR_i said...

an FLDS monk?

onthestreet said...

Neigh unto, but a whole lot more.