FLDS Prophet Warren Jeffs may be serving life in prison, but his followers continue with their work on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas where the group's white limestone Temple towers over the town they are building. Polygamy, the practice of plural marriage, appears to be alive and well in the Lone Star State, despite laws to the contrary.
Saturday, September 17, 2005
Where are they now?
There have been several posters who have asked about individuals and there present whereabouts. Here is a place to post requests so they won't get lost in the dialogue.
49 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Well the we can ask the adminstrator go back to taking bloggers by invitation.
Street and Ruth still could sneak through but it might be worth a try.
I know many people are tired of Ruth and Street, but you have to realize this is therapy for them and many others. There are hundreds of people looking for answers and feeling lonely and depressed because of what has happened in the last couple years. At least they will talk. Most of the other ones won't.
When you think of them send happy thoughts. It works for me.
Rumor has it, I think it would be a good Idea for the web adminastration to have people registar. I never disagreed with this. Maybe then other's will not use some one's name freely. And if you remember that nobody talked when they had a person registar, then your complaint is full of bull. And you could honor the purpose of the page, and leave it open for those looking for some one, and not contaminate with your critasizim. Your filthy critasism.I do not think that the people that are honest want any thing to do with liers tho.
I am still interested in learning anything I can about two daughters of Gale and Robert Blackmore (of Bountiful, BC) who we have been told are married to Warren. I am a friend of Gale's father.
It would be SO NICE if everyone would agree to ONLY post information about loved ones on this thread; then our wonderful Admin wouldn't have to delete anything.
The main reason I frequent this blog is, like Paladin, to hear about lost or silent loved ones.
On other threads here, I enjoy the local information exchanges and the sharing of personal experiences. The proselytizing, personal attacks and name-calling are disgusting and unwelcome. Shouldn't we all just get along and behave like sensible adults?
(In the interest of keeping this thread ONLY about it's title, "Where are they now?" I will happily delete this entry in a day or so.)
I agee with keeping the name calling out of it. I think that a person can be asked about with out a lot of slander. And if all the people on this blog would tend them selves the web adminastrator would not have too.
Where is Truman Barlow? Why is he hiding out and forsaking the legacy of Uncle Roy? Is he still repenting to become one of Warren's faithful? One of Winston's prophecies that hasn't come true yet, was after Truman was revived back to life after his heart attack. Winston stated that Truman would eventually become one of the great leaders of the gospel. He better get out of his shell and get with it. He could be a great inspiration to the people. Unless it is true that he is a criminal and extortionist. I would also like to know about Uncle Dan Barlow. Uncle Dan has always been a great inspiration to the people. Why doesn't he stand up and give the people some directive, some hope and inspiration. These great men such as Dan Barlow, Joe Jessop, Spencer Johnson, Arthur Blackmore, Vaughn Fischer, etc. etc. etc. have been with this work for ever through rough times. They have worked with God to pull out of crisis before. Why do they just stand by now and watch the destruction happen?
A business man, A mayor, a town leader, an example of living within his means, a loving father and husband, an educator, a communicator. A simple man with a simple faith. Put forth in shining example. Living the principles he taught. Showing love and compassion to all. He accepts people for who they were and are and helps encourage those along the way.
He had a simple story he would teach in Sunday School. "A man was robbed, who was the loser?"
Since his family has been torn to shreds and he has been exiled...he has become more of what he always was. If you bump into him in Walmart, or Village Inn or anywhere in St. George, he will greet you with a smile and a warm hug or handshake and say "It's great to see a familiar face." He doesn't judge by the clothes you wear or the company you keep (like so many from the creek).
I admire him for making the best of his circumstances. And realize that he "had" enough influence with the people that he could have changed the tide with three little words...
Does any one know if Craig Jessop got kicked? I noticed he is working in Mesquite for Legacy construction company. Still wears the same clothes..but looks a little sad.
A man and his wife of seven years had a issue that they needed to have council on so they went to Warren Jeffs for some advise.
This couple had left the work, "done their own choosing" and had came back to CC and were forgiven and re-married to each other by the prophet. They truely loved each other and thought that maybe The Husband could get rebaptized and The Wife forgave him and they could make progress. They were concerned with the shortness of the time and hoped that they could make the grade.
Warren Jeffs listened to the situation and then turned to the woman and said "There is no forgiveness and no time left. This man cannot take you to the highest degree of glory." I want you to make a decision. You can either leave town with him now and never come back or you can leave him and be placed with a man that can take you to the celestial kingdom. You have a hour to decide.
While the pressure was on.. The Wife decided that she would rather have the Celestial Kingdom than the wonderful father and husband she had. He was exiled and she was remarried within a week to a man with two wives. She is still learning how to survive in a family so different from her own. Feelings don't disappear overnight and tho she and the five children love him, they feel at peace doing the prophets will.
Thank you for sharing this. I am one you shared it with about a year ago. I like to see this kind of testimony exhibited. My whole purpose on this blog has been to try to wake some people up. There are those who have and will brand you as a liar. There are also those who will relate to what you went through and see they are not the only ones seeing things amiss.
Hope all keeps going well with you! I know you're one who feels you only went up when you went out. We all did, some are just slow to realize it!
I passed Allen Steed in Mesquite running a mini-excavator. I'm not sure if he works for Mesquite city or for one of the major construction businesses in Mesquite. If I hadn't been in such a hurry, I would have stopped and said Hi!
I heard that Steven Harker sold Sterling Harker's house and property out from under him and told him to go find another job.
Just rumors...sounds just like something that Steven would do though. He sold out when he got up in church and compared Warren and U. Rulon to the Father and the Son.
Steven was one of those unexpected surprises to me. He seemed to be following in his Father's footsteps and then he did a 180 and fell in lockstep with warren. It was a sad day. I was of the understanding that Sterling owned the property he was living on. Maybe I'm wrong.
Question about this statement....I heard that Steven Harker sold Sterling Harker's house and property out from under him and told him to go find another job.
It is in Beryl, UT. Parley Harker had a farm there. I thought that Sterling owned his property too. That each of the brothers had a share. But someone told me that Bob Holt had bought it. Harkers and Sons run diesel trucks in Mesquite and also have a framing company. They have got to be a big contributor to WJ. They had a potato sorting operation in CC that moved out a couple months ago. They moved it to somewhere in NV. Another one of those UEP assets that are missing. The big cellar is there in CC and all the machines and stuff moved out. We had many a work project to get that in production. And WJ himself came to the potato field and blessed it and it was at that time we saw the pictures at Harvest Fest and saw many of Uncle Rulons wives with Warren and Uncle Rulon had not died and was not there.
Rumor...What time frame was this? And WJ himself came to the potato field and blessed it and it was at that time we saw the pictures at Harvest Fest and saw many of Uncle Rulons wives with Warren and Uncle Rulon had not died and was not there.
I think the pictures were in June or so..not really sure. It was when they were planting the potato field by Cedar City and in Apple Valley.
Greg Holm and the Barlow Boys died in Aug and Uncle Rulon died in Sept of 2002. Harvest Fest was in October and someone had a lovely picture board up of the planting and harvesting.
They had a story of Warren Jeffs blessing the ground and the seeds and they said it was the best crop they had ever planted. Needless to say both plots were fresh ground that had never been planted and that potatoes do best in that kind of soil anyway.
No Leroy Jeffs moved from CC and within a couple weeks he was kicked out. But his wives and family never made it to Texas. Nobody knows exactly where they are. Or he is.
Yes Dan Barlow is a fine man. But he is not above taking the welfare benefits that are paid for his son and keeping them for him self. How "noble" is that? What kind of "a loving father" would do that? That money is for his son's welfare, not Dan's.
If he is "living within his means" then why didn't he do the honest thing and get the money to his son? Why did he say he needed this money and kept if from his own son?
What he has done is not a "shining example" in my opinion.
Is his actions "Showing love and compassion to all." I think NOT.
To use your/his words "A man was robbed, who was the loser?"
A boy was robbed, DAN'S VERY OWN BOY WAS ROBBED BY HIS OWN FATHER. Who was the loser?
Vaugh Fischer did not get the "boot"! He is in the St. George hospital right now with severe colon cancer. People suppoesed he did because they had not seen him with his family lately. He is very sick and just undergone surgery on his colon. We all wish him the very best and remember all the good times we had with him as the Supervisor of the Log Shop operation! There was a time when he had worked on every house in town. He did alot to help anyone he could.
I want to know how Esther Shapley is doing. She is one fine woman, and would like to know how and where I could get in touch with her. She is one of the most giving, loving, and considerate women that ever graced this earth. So, if anyone can tell me, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks
Is someone trying to hassle her too? What has she ever done? We used to be close friends, and I haven't heard or seen her for such a long time. Why would anyone be looking for her on that plain?
Phil Thorton passed away without the FLDS being notified (I was FLDS at the time). Sure is strange to keep a man's passing hidden or say nothing about it. Don Jacobs passed away in good graces. I don't know about Merrill Bauer. I assume he is still in.
49 comments:
Well the we can ask the adminstrator go back to taking bloggers by invitation.
Street and Ruth still could sneak through but it might be worth a try.
I know many people are tired of Ruth and Street, but you have to realize this is therapy for them and many others. There are hundreds of people looking for answers and feeling lonely and depressed because of what has happened in the last couple years. At least they will talk. Most of the other ones won't.
When you think of them send happy thoughts. It works for me.
Rumor has it, I think it would be a good Idea for the web adminastration to have people registar. I never disagreed with this. Maybe then other's will not use some one's name freely. And if you remember that nobody talked when they had a person registar, then your complaint is full of bull.
And you could honor the purpose of the page, and leave it open for those looking for some one, and not contaminate with your critasizim. Your filthy critasism.I do not think that the people that are honest want any thing to do with liers tho.
I am still interested in learning anything I can about two daughters of Gale and Robert Blackmore (of Bountiful, BC) who we have been told are married to Warren. I am a friend of Gale's father.
I agree with Paladin for Truth.
It would be SO NICE if everyone would agree to ONLY post information about loved ones on this thread; then our wonderful Admin wouldn't have to delete anything.
The main reason I frequent this blog is, like Paladin, to hear about lost or silent loved ones.
On other threads here, I enjoy the local information exchanges and the sharing of personal experiences. The proselytizing, personal attacks and name-calling are disgusting and unwelcome. Shouldn't we all just get along and behave like sensible adults?
(In the interest of keeping this thread ONLY about it's title, "Where are they now?" I will happily delete this entry in a day or so.)
Namaste
Does anyone have a clue where Uncle Rulon's wives are, besides being married to Warren.
Is Warren't mother still alive?
I agee with keeping the name calling out of it. I think that a person can be asked about with out a lot of slander. And if all the people on this blog would tend them selves the web adminastrator would not have too.
Where is Truman Barlow? Why is he hiding out and forsaking the legacy of Uncle Roy? Is he still repenting to become one of Warren's faithful? One of Winston's prophecies that hasn't come true yet, was after Truman was revived back to life after his heart attack. Winston stated that Truman would eventually become one of the great leaders of the gospel. He better get out of his shell and get with it. He could be a great inspiration to the people. Unless it is true that he is a criminal and extortionist.
I would also like to know about Uncle Dan Barlow. Uncle Dan has always been a great inspiration to the people. Why doesn't he stand up and give the people some directive, some hope and inspiration.
These great men such as Dan Barlow, Joe Jessop, Spencer Johnson, Arthur Blackmore, Vaughn Fischer, etc. etc. etc. have been with this work for ever through rough times. They have worked with God to pull out of crisis before. Why do they just stand by now and watch the destruction happen?
4;57
And it is written, "Stand ye in holy places and watch the hand of the Lord made manifest."
didn't some of Rulon's wives go to Jim Allred and some to Wendel Neilson, and some to Leroy Jeffs(that one kicked out now)
ODE to Uncle Danny...
A business man, A mayor, a town leader, an example of living within his means, a loving father and husband, an educator, a communicator. A simple man with a simple faith. Put forth in shining example. Living the principles he taught. Showing love and compassion to all. He accepts people for who they were and are and helps encourage those along the way.
He had a simple story he would teach in Sunday School. "A man was robbed, who was the loser?"
Since his family has been torn to shreds and he has been exiled...he has become more of what he always was. If you bump into him in Walmart, or Village Inn or anywhere in St. George, he will greet you with a smile and a warm hug or handshake and say "It's great to see a familiar face." He doesn't judge by the clothes you wear or the company you keep (like so many from the creek).
I admire him for making the best of his circumstances. And realize that he "had" enough influence with the people that he could have changed the tide with three little words...
Warren is Wrong.
Does any one know if Craig Jessop got kicked? I noticed he is working in Mesquite for Legacy construction company. Still wears the same clothes..but looks a little sad.
A Story of M D
A man and his wife of seven years had a issue that they needed to have council on so they went to Warren Jeffs for some advise.
This couple had left the work, "done their own choosing" and had came back to CC and were forgiven and re-married to each other by the prophet.
They truely loved each other and thought that maybe The Husband could get rebaptized and The Wife forgave him and they could make progress. They were concerned with the shortness of the time and hoped that they could make the grade.
Warren Jeffs listened to the situation and then turned to the woman and said "There is no forgiveness and no time left. This man cannot take you to the highest degree of glory." I want you to make a decision. You can either leave town with him now and never come back or you can leave him and be placed with a man that can take you to the celestial kingdom. You have a hour to decide.
While the pressure was on.. The Wife decided that she would rather have the Celestial Kingdom than the wonderful father and husband she had. He was exiled and she was remarried within a week to a man with two wives. She is still learning how to survive in a family so different from her own. Feelings don't disappear overnight and tho she and the five children love him, they feel at peace doing the prophets will.
Thanks rumor-has-it
Do you know how Allen Steed is getting along?
He is a good man.
Eye and Ear
Thank you for sharing this. I am one you shared it with about a year ago. I like to see this kind of testimony exhibited. My whole purpose on this blog has been to try to wake some people up. There are those who have and will brand you as a liar. There are also those who will relate to what you went through and see they are not the only ones seeing things amiss.
Hope all keeps going well with you! I know you're one who feels you only went up when you went out. We all did, some are just slow to realize it!
I passed Allen Steed in Mesquite running a mini-excavator. I'm not sure if he works for Mesquite city or for one of the major construction businesses in Mesquite. If I hadn't been in such a hurry, I would have stopped and said Hi!
I heard that Steven Harker sold Sterling Harker's house and property out from under him and told him to go find another job.
Just rumors...sounds just like something that Steven would do though. He sold out when he got up in church and compared Warren and U. Rulon to the Father and the Son.
Steven was one of those unexpected surprises to me. He seemed to be following in his Father's footsteps and then he did a 180 and fell in lockstep with warren. It was a sad day. I was of the understanding that Sterling owned the property he was living on. Maybe I'm wrong.
Question about this statement....I heard that Steven Harker sold Sterling Harker's house and property out from under him and told him to go find another job.
Is this property in Shortcreek or somewhere else?
Justcurious
It is in Beryl, UT. Parley Harker had a farm there. I thought that Sterling owned his property too. That each of the brothers had a share. But someone told me that Bob Holt had bought it. Harkers and Sons run diesel trucks in Mesquite and also have a framing company. They have got to be a big contributor to WJ. They had a potato sorting operation in CC that moved out a couple months ago. They moved it to somewhere in NV. Another one of those UEP assets that are missing. The big cellar is there in CC and all the machines and stuff moved out. We had many a work project to get that in production. And WJ himself came to the potato field and blessed it and it was at that time we saw the pictures at Harvest Fest and saw many of Uncle Rulons wives with Warren and Uncle Rulon had not died and was not there.
Where is Sterling and Alvin Harker now?
Rumor...What time frame was this?
And WJ himself came to the potato field and blessed it and it was at that time we saw the pictures at Harvest Fest and saw many of Uncle Rulons wives with Warren and Uncle Rulon had not died and was not there.
Just Curious
I think the pictures were in June or so..not really sure. It was when they were planting the potato field by Cedar City and in Apple Valley.
Greg Holm and the Barlow Boys died in Aug and Uncle Rulon died in Sept of 2002. Harvest Fest was in October and someone had a lovely picture board up of the planting and harvesting.
They had a story of Warren Jeffs blessing the ground and the seeds and they said it was the best crop they had ever planted. Needless to say both plots were fresh ground that had never been planted and that potatoes do best in that kind of soil anyway.
Well harvesting and planting is not going so well in zion. Having to water with potty water. Every thing is blessed and holy in zion land.
does anyone know the wherabouts of Wendell Nielsen or Leroy Jeffs?
Question for those who might know.
Where Leroy Jeffs wives living in Texas?
No Leroy Jeffs moved from CC and within a couple weeks he was kicked out. But his wives and family never made it to Texas. Nobody knows exactly where they are. Or he is.
To bad about Leroy and his family. But was he in Texas and was he really kicked out?
more to the point, why was Leroy kicked out, and is he trying to get back in?
F.W. when did Leroy get booted?
where's Wendell? in Mancos? or Mexico?
Then, there is the rushing of demons to accuse and destroy all that God wants accused and destroyed.
This is warrens calling and apparently he needs OTS to help him do the acusing.
Does anyone know the status of U. Joe Jessop and Vaughn Fischer? Heard they recently got the boot, I mean adjustment.
Reply to rumor-has-it, at 9/20/2005 10:28 PM
Yes Dan Barlow is a fine man. But he is not above taking the welfare benefits that are paid for his son and keeping them for him self. How "noble" is that? What kind of "a loving father" would do that? That money is for his son's welfare, not Dan's.
If he is "living within his means" then why didn't he do the honest thing and get the money to his son? Why did he say he needed this money and kept if from his own son?
What he has done is not a "shining example" in my opinion.
Is his actions "Showing love and compassion to all." I think NOT.
To use your/his words "A man was robbed, who was the loser?"
A boy was robbed, DAN'S VERY OWN BOY WAS ROBBED BY HIS OWN FATHER. Who was the loser?
Vaugh Fischer did not get the "boot"! He is in the St. George hospital right now with severe colon cancer. People suppoesed he did because they had not seen him with his family lately. He is very sick and just undergone surgery on his colon. We all wish him the very best and remember all the good times we had with him as the Supervisor of the Log Shop operation! There was a time when he had worked on every house in town. He did alot to help
anyone he could.
Our prayers are with him. I do not know him well personally but have only heard good about him.
What about U. Joe Jessop?
I want to know how Esther Shapley is doing. She is one fine woman, and would like to know how and where I could get in touch with her. She is one of the most giving, loving, and considerate women that ever graced this earth. So, if anyone can tell me, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks
so you can hand her a subpoena probably
so you can hand her a subpoena probably
Is someone trying to hassle her too? What has she ever done? We used to be close friends, and I haven't heard or seen her for such a long time. Why would anyone be looking for her on that plain?
what is the status of hyrum jeffs and his family?
They always seemed to be looked down on by whorrin
Street did you really write this crap...SO THE PROPHET SPARES THEM, BY KICKING THEM ASIDE TEMPORARILLY, AND WITH PERFECT LOVE.
Perfect love? Spare me.
Please define Warren's perfect love? Is she 11 or 12?
methuselah lived 969 years and then he died. the name methuselah means 'when he dies then it will come' referring to the flood during noah's time.
Where are the three deaf men? Phil Thornton, Merrill Bauer, Don Jacobs?
Phil Thorton passed away without the FLDS being notified (I was FLDS at the time). Sure is strange to keep a man's passing hidden or say nothing about it. Don Jacobs passed away in good graces. I don't know about Merrill Bauer. I assume he is still in.
When did Don Jacobs pass away then? and is his wife Florence still alive? Thank you.
Sorry, my fault; it was his wife that passed away. I am 12:50. I was at Don Jacob's wife's funeral where he talked in sign language.
As far as I know, he is still alive.
Thanks for clarifying that. When did his wife die then?
If someone has Don Jacobs address, I would like to send a condolence card. Email me at taloali@aol.com. Thanks!
Florence passed away Feb. 5, 2005. The funeral was very dignified; very little Hail Warrintler went on.
Post a Comment