Saturday, September 17, 2005

Is Preparation for disaster still important?

For as long as I can remember it was a tenet of our religion to be prepared to feed our families for an extended time without importing any food into the community. I have heard rumors that all the community food stocks have been moved to YFZ. Can anyone verify this? In light of the recent disasters and the constant terrorist threat that exists I wonder if the "lifting up" and "yearning for Zion" has taken precedence to preparation.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear fttc.
What kind of community food stock are missing in Shortcreek.

Texas Watcher

rumor-has-it said...

I think the grain silos have been apart of CC as far as I can remember.

There is no way that they would feed the community now.

I had a years supply of food for Y2K. Sure am grateful for it. We would have starved many times over the last three years. Starting over with nothing takes alot of faith and food storage.

Anonymous said...

And it is written, The Lord God did send forth manna. And feed the people.
And it is written, in the hour that Jesus does return again, you will not have time to find a thing. Oh, ye of little faith. How long would I have gathered you, but you would not. Oh, ye of little faith. Oh ye desenters and fighter's. Do you supose God will gather the fighter's? Oh ye of little faith, how oft would I have gathered you, and you would not.

Anonymous said...

And rumor has it, starting over is easy if you start over in the LOrd. He has never let an honest person down.

fttc said...

I heard a rumor that the grain bins had been emptied and sent to Texas. Also there was a lot of food storage in a cavern behind U. Freds house. I heard all that was sent south too. I am not in a position to check it out personally. I thought maybe someone from CC could verify it.

Anonymous said...

What do the grain bins look like?

Are these the same grain bins Uncle Rulon brought with him from Sandy?

Anonymous said...

And like i said, it is none of your business. You speak like you know what you are taking about, and then you have to rely on gossip to satisfy you. Try this: get a life doing some thing good besides destroying peoples lifes with lies.

onthestreet said...

Maybe yall's just hungry, or thinking that you will be if you don't find the loot. Ruthy's right, you know. The Lord said: "Come unto me, and I will feed you", quite literally. Yet how do lost souls know and believe who it is they must come to, in order to come to Him. "By their fruits ye shall know them." But there must also be fruits in you, in order to find it, including continual prayer, meekness, purity, and unity with a prophet. "If ye are not one, ye are not mine."

Anonymous said...

Is the community garden still in service? Uncle Joe used to run it under U. Fred. There was a Roundy boy helping too. Is he still around?

fttc said...

If I was satisfied with the "gossip" I wouldn't be asking would I? How is my posting here hurting anyone? Let me know so I can make amends as it has not been my intention to do so.

fttc said...

I did not mean the bins had been moved to YFZ. I only heard the grain had been taken and the bins were empty. The bins in the pictures from Pilot do not look like the bins I saw in CC.

fttc said...

Am I to understand from Anon 5:18 and Street that warren is teaching preparation on a temperal level (food, housing, etc.) is no longer a concern? If so I think it is the result of years of welfare mentality. It also denotes another huge change in the teachings.

The Lord will help those who help themselves. If we have the chance to get prepared and we do not take it, we cannot depend on God to bail us out. In his mercy he may do it for us but we have not bound him to the blessing by doing our part.

Faithful Woman said...

It would be hard to see if the grain tanks are indeed empty here in CC. Lyle Jeffs has a house just below them and has blocked the road off that goes to them. If anyone happens to go looking around, Lyle is sure to turn up. Hey! that may be an excelent way to get ahold of Lyle.

I would sincerly doubt that food storage was left to a dusty cave when there are two huge steel buildings that have been serving to house the store house right in Uncle Fred's yard.
I haven't been up there in the past few years, (wonder why) so I don't know if they are still full or have been emptied.

The store house warehouses with building supplies are still in opperation.

Uncle Joe is still doing a little farming but didn't see anyone but his family helping him. Of course he may have had some other help still.

onthestreet said...

fttc: What you say there is all true. But then, after you do your part, if what I said isn't taken care of, we witness the spoiling of our goods. So acceptable Grace and Works are BOTH required.

onthestreet said...

That is, what you said in your second paragraph, is true.

Anonymous said...

Well the Texas Warrenites are storing for the future for sure. Bolts of cloth, mounds of toilet paper and paper towels, large garden and orchard.

Warren is not depending on the goodness of God to protect him, just the many thousand of dollars of goods and people it purchases. Guess Warren sees the dollars as God's blessing. Go figure.

He hasn't heard the message Jesus spoke about the sparrow.

onthestreet said...

God gives the sunshine, and the breath of life, and the goods. It is our job to gather. Do you expect God to set your table, spoon-feed you, wash your dishes, and wipe you. That is the job of servants, such as the Telestial serving the Terrestrial, and the terrestrial serving the Celestial.

The only wiping he will be doing is yatsy-style, as in wipe-out, what he has promised to the wicked. "Satan shall deceive the whole world". Therefore is will be according to "the consumption decreed upon all nations".

Anonymous said...

Street when your ol boy Warren gets his Telestial servent job cleaning prison toilets someone will have to get him the sound track to "Wipe Out" to listen to.

rumor-has-it said...

On the Street, I am sure the Lord provides for you manna from heaven because you are so righteous.

For the rest of us, we are working our buts off trying to get enough food to eat and gas to get to the next job.

As for gossip, it it what keeps us connected and keeps the checks and balances. WJ greatest weapon is secretcy. And if more people were talking, communicating there would be more problems solved.

So, as long as Street is talking we know that s/he is making progress. Is not starving to death or sleeping in his car.

onthestreet said...

Literally, manna from heaven.

polywatchin said...

Manna from food stamps

fttc said...

Poly

LOL! Ain't it the truth.

onthestreet said...

Ahh, manna comes from God. Yet the Lord fed Israel in a variety of ways, and by giving us breath and the labor of our hands.

Anonymous said...

Go get a job and work with your own hands.

onthestreet said...

Every day except Sundays.

Anonymous said...

Oh, so you do productive work; with a tape-measure at your side, even when you sleep?

onthestreet said...

Sometimes I mop up the gross debris, like the Lord is doing when people get gross and filthy.

Faithful Woman said...

souds like he has a janitorial job

fttc said...

Explains why he is up so late nights.

onthestreet said...

The janitor is the porter at the door. The "J" is the Yod, which is connection.

onthestreet said...

...CONNECTION TO THE CROWN, OR THE CROWN ITSELF. IT IS GRACE AND BLISS IN THE LORD'S ANOINTED. "THE GREATEST OF ALL IS THE SERVANT OF ALL". AS FOR MYSELF, I AM NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

You are nothing, and yet the lord sacraficed his only beggotten son so that you and I and everyone else, may make into heaven, if we so chose to follow him. For with out him there is no hope. For any of us, and yes that includes Warren too. Something about the transgression of Adam. Which altamatly brought us all here.

onthestreet said...

THE CROWN IS NOTHINGNESS, WHICH YOU NEVER GAIN IF YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW HIM IGNORES OR ABUSES THE BODY OF CHRIST, THE TREE, THE PARACLETES, WHO HAPPEN TO BE THE GATEKEEPERS, INCLUDING THE PROPHET OF YOUR DAY STANDING AT THE FIRST GATE. THE PROPHET WARREN FOLLOWS HIM, EVEN INTO HIDING, AND GOD ALSO "HIDES HIMSELF FROM THE WORLD".

onthestreet said...

GOD SITS CROWNED ON HIS THRONE. YET, "HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY", INTO NOTHINGNESS. THE CROWN IS NOTHINGNESS, PERFECT SACRIFICE OF ALL THINGS, FROM ETERNITY TO ETERNITY.

onthestreet said...

IT IS ALL THE COLORS OR POWERS COMBINED AND REFLECTED BACK. THUS IT IS WHITE AS SNOW, AS FINE LINEN, THE FULL ARMOURS, AS LIGHT FOR A COVERING.

ALL THE REFLECTED COLORS OF THE COAT MAKE WHITE. WHEN ONLY THE RED POWER IS REFLECTED, RED IS MANIFEST. SUCH IS THE NATURE OF LIGHT AND COLOR. RED IS THE CLINGING FIRE, THE JUDGEMENT.

Anonymous said...

and pink is the faaabulous coluer,
the color of street

oh boy!!!!!

onthestreet said...

LOL: HOW DO YOU KNOW I'M A BOY? PINK, BLUE, TAKE YOUR PICK. BUT THERE ARE MANY HUES OF THE BASIC COLORS, AND FAR MORE IN THE HEAVENLY REALM, SO FABULOUS AND DAZZLING THAT MAN CANNOT SEE IT IN THE FLESH, AND LIVE.

Anonymous said...

oh stop teasing me,you beast you!!!!
I know why you don't like girls!!!

Anonymous said...

love your big letters!!!

Anonymous said...

he's such a brute!

Anonymous said...

I don't think even street knows whether he (she?) is a boy or a girl by now.