FLDS Prophet Warren Jeffs may be serving life in prison, but his followers continue with their work on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas where the group's white limestone Temple towers over the town they are building. Polygamy, the practice of plural marriage, appears to be alive and well in the Lone Star State, despite laws to the contrary.
Tuesday, January 08, 2013
2013
A brand new year, We're all still here.
The prophet's still jailed, Faith still hasn't bailed.
Yes, tyranny still rules
Those who will be fools......
Here is a test question; if six murders and child mollesters go to court and slam dunk their victum; to keep them quiet and win the case; who was guilty and who was not?
Here is a poem; Moses walked a long time ago; he taught the people. They laughed and joked and said his words had fallen. Now, we walk upon the land; a Prophet God did send. Here he was mocked and scorned, like in days of yor" But, they are gone, those mockers of yesterday. Here we stand, with time fleeting. Fleeting away, until you are dust again; for laughing at, God and time anyway. Life is but a moment, and then we pass on. A brand new year, you deride with no tear; The Prophet has not failed, because your mocking is hailed; Yes, Tyranny still pulls, on the web, with all who ARE fools, I mean to all who work with the devils tools.
The Prophet has not failed; because your mocking is hailed; Yes, Tyranny still drools; with all who work with the devils tools.
I stood alone, with the crowd; invisible there. One whispered and accused. Soon, a few told the lie; Then the crowd, joined the cheer. Shamed and scorned, I stood alone; in the crowd. Until the laughter died; I held my head high. For the one lie; the crowd did cheer. Until, they were cheated too; by the one, who told the tale; and they lay ill. And the crowd, fell alone, scattered. Who was the one that cared? All, it took, was the whisperer, the lie was scattered in the wind; the whisperer, the whisperer, and they told the lie again. Until it choked them, with the dust; of the clatter, and the crowd, stood alone in scatter. get my dander up, a little more, and Texas will be in a drool, I mean drought; storms abound, the scatter. Cattle men give up, because they have no hay; and men march on the white house. Yes, right on schedual; you have the pipper man to pay. Lies, mockery, and the wild crowd; all go home alone, to face the mirror and death lays on the other side; until you cross over to face your fate, of souls you tried to destroy, and scatter. Your raid, was wild; your rampage crazy; oh, that is what you said of them. Justifying your relenting, raving. And the world walked on, among the storm; the media lie forgotton. New Orleans was flooded, and New York City, and the flames. Homes destroyed, tears aplenty; and you mock, mock, mock, and your crowd grew thinner.
Get a perspective. Each one is as unique as the individual. Yours is just one among millions. Today, mine's inside-out and cynical and could change tomorrow.
BTW, the last part of your second sentence makes no sense whatsoever. For that, get a grammar reference.
Obviously, anonymous 1/12/2013 12:05 meant "something warren does not allow his followers to do"- something not allowed TO his followers, not "by his followers." Just a simple typo- and we all make them. (But no, another rude "cynic" (anon 3:14)had to hurl an insult. So I will just hurl one back- I am very tired of trying to be polite to people who obviously don't care about being polite themselves.-and self-identified as a cynic- so I don't care. This topic- flds and its outrages- does not need cynics in the discussion- flds-related problems are so numerous and hard to solve that cynicism is a complete waste of time.) Anonymous 12:05- you made an excellent point- warren does things that he doesn't want his followers to do. That would sum up much of his behaviors.w throws people out of the group by the hundreds for doing anything like the things he has been doing every day for many years. It is a tragic thing that those loyal to him still do not know this because of the fear in which they are raised.
In his own words...Warren Jeffs Dictation September 26, 2002
But there is a sign that can always detect a false prophet; and it is the spirit of accusing, establishing his right to rule, saying because that person is wrong, we are right. If we could prove everybody wrong, that wouldn't mean we are right. We are only right if we possess the Spirit of God.
Warren in 2007 admitted he was not a prophet (not possessing the Spirit of God) to those in charge by phone January 24th, 2007. Merril Jessop, Nephi Jeffs, Naomie Jeffs, Lindsey Barlow, William Jessop.
January 25th, 2007 Announced he was not the prophet on video to Nephi Jeffs. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLxkCN1Obzw
Jeffs last call stating "I am not the one to be the prophet and I am not the one to continue." came on June 11, 2007 to Merril Jessop.
Jeffs called Merril Jessop on June 12, 2007 and stated "expressions of unworthiness needed to be careful"
April and May 2007 Warren took back the position of prophet only to give it back in a brief moment on June 11, 2007.
In Warren's call to Merril Jessop on June 12th, 2007 he stated the lawyers called and were concern about him.
Merril Jessop through the lawyers put Warren back on message to profit hood.
"The spirit of accusing.." Wow- and how many times has the scoundrel warren practiced this horrific spirit of accusing, and this so-called "establishing his right to rule," by his outrageous and cruel statements about so many flds men and women and teens? How many times have his diabolical statements about hundreds of people ruined their lives, caused suicides, and caused irreversible grief to others? in order to rid the flds of all opposition, to grasp assets of families, destroy natural family affections, rip hundreds of families to shreds, facilitate rape of youngsters, destroyed good men's entire adult lives in every way possible, facilitated abandonment of people too young to live on their own,and take hundreds of tiny, dependent children prisoner? This is just amazing. I still cannot fathom how blind those people are, who remain faithful to this unspeakably treacherous and demented person, even as we speak. It is quite a testament to the incredible layers of brainwashing in the flds.
I did describe to these brethren again that the Lord warned me about the Barlow men. And I told them what the Lord had shown me that these men killed Uncle Parley and aspired.
And I did tell them of the vision the Lord had given me concerning Truman Barlow, that before Father's passing, Truman aspired, and the devil put it in his heart how to kill father and hide it and get away with it, and he himself be appointed the leader.
Would anyone care to comment on this?
Was it Barlow or Jeffs who had it in their heart to kill the Prophet?
Man, it seems like there are plenty of murders to go around in flds. People who have been out of flds awhile have said they are afraid to talk about the things they know. Some have said they know people have been "eliminated," (that includes cremations.) So much has been hidden from the public, and even still hidden from people that are still blindly following warren. It's just amazing. This group is almost nothing but bad news. I guess it will be many years before we ever will get all of the facts. I think there have been so many eliminations that we will never piece it all together. What a disgrace. It really is like the Taliban and the Mafia.
Gretchen, please be careful about reading too much into "anonymous'" comment regarding murder allegations. Uncle Parley wasn't "killed" as such. I believe he died in a hospital. Warren's claim that he was killed is based on a second "blessing" some men gave him after the one warren had arranged. Warren then blamed the men for killing Parley because their "blessing" somehow prevented his being preserved (surviving). Just another excuse from warren as to why his didn't turn out the way he had anticipated. His passing served a dual purpose though, imo. First, it vacated the first councilor position into which warren hastily placed himself and second, warrens calling the men murderers diminished the (then elevated) status of the men in the eyes of many in the community who were already looking upon warren as some kind of leader. This appears to be one of the first steps warren took to eventually have them expelled from the community thereby eliminating leadership competition. (imo, this comment illustrates a mountain made into a molehill. It is my interpretation of what I saw and heard at the time.)
I am not talking about just the above anonymous comment. I am referring to a number of other interviews I have come across over the past 8 years where people who have been out of flds awhile seem significantly afraid even today, regarding things they indicate went on over the years, but that they do not want to be specific about. I have been watching and reading everything I can all that time regarding flds, and it seems clear to me that there have been many serious "activities" going on that have been assiduously hidden from authorities. I am sure it isn't that hard to do at all(the truth hiding thing) when there is so much fear of retribution in the people who have grown up in these kinds of groups.
Gretchen, I grew up in the group and still live in town. I have NEVER been threatened. And while I have not been welcomed with open arms after choosing not to be a part of the church, I do not know of anything sinister like murder as you would have people believe. It is possible that other people have had a different experience. Just sayin... Please don't jump to conclusions. It makes your readers believe the worst and creates extreme prejudice such as yours. If you have evidence of your assertions, however, I urge you to contact the authorities.
Gretchen, he only wanted you to believe the lies about Warren Jeffs, not the Truth that Sam Barlow is a murder. I know; he killed my children. Then he writes up a lie with the state, to make the perfect cover up, and if you talk about it, they will kill you too. Sam Barlow and his Barlow friends. They are murders. And the person talking to you, was not there. I alone was, when they killed my babies; Sam Barlow and his friends.
and Sam Barlow tried to kill me, after he murdered my children. He will kill anyone who talks about his murders too. He can not kill me, he does not know who I am. I grew up here too, and more than half the men are liars and thieves. They destroy souls. And if you notice the anonymous speaker, defending the murdering Barlow's why he portrays a lie against Warren Jeffs; that is his suttle lie. He targets a man who is not guilty; and defends the murders who are. Sam Barlow is a murder.
Do you think the authorities; Sam Barlow paid them a lot, to keep his murders secret. Like as if they would help any one. Helamon Barlow molests children too; He is a cop. And the County? You must be joking; the men who murder pay them, and the attorneys. But, they are murders, none the less; Do you want to refer me to the media, next so they can cover it up, and slam dunk the people who report abuse? these men are professional murders. They have the authority in their pocket. And then there are the devils like you on the web pages, that tell people to only believe your lies and not the truth. You most likely are the murder Sam Barlow himself.
Let me be very specific; I reported abuse on a certain man. Every one called me a liar. They catered to this murder. A long time went by. The one girl who spoke about Sam Barlow and his murder ended up dead. She also reported his abuse. Sam Barlow tried to kill me, for reporting abuse, along with the other man. They think they are hid. Yet, I know and they know they killed my children. Sam Barlow is a murder. I do not know anything at all, about Parley Harker. Every one that ever had anything to do, with Sam Barlow knows he is a murder; even the Attorneys he hired. They just get paid. If you read a little farther, in Warren Jeffs words, he says that a man these cops, attack take these murders out. Why? not because he cares about children or women, any more than the rest of you do. It is a lie, that you do. I know you do not. I know. I asked for help and seen inside the U.S. concentration camps. I seen what happens to people who report Sam Barlow and his sons abuse. He takes them out, because they attack them. And he is more violent than they are. They kill women and children, with out batting an eye, these Barlow men. Helamon Barlow is a murder, just like his father. And you all know it. So, Sam Barlow's damn Barlow; kill me now, if you can. I am one of your victims. You tried to kill me. I lived. You are a murder and you and your sons will go to hell. You will pay for your abuse, and your murders. And the anonymous b" " that protects you, shall go to hell with you. Course he has not been attacked. he hates warren jeffs and worships the Barlow that murder. and if you defend these Barlow and hate warren jeffs you must be like them. Now, Helamon Murder Barlow, like his Father, Sam Barlow Murder, has the county, doing their dirty work; smiling and snickering of course, behind the backs of the women and children of course; souls they destroy, but wait until they attack the federal man. Then he will take them out. He is used to killing, this federal man, they attack. Warren Jeffs said that too; so look out your murders, your day is numbered and it is not going to be the women and children, you killed and tried to kill. It will be your fancied up government friend, that takes you murders out. And may God speed that day. May God speed the federal man, to come that they attack, and may he speedily take you murders out. You and your gossiping freaks, on the blog; who love a lie. And may God speedily destroy the concentration camps on American soil; and stop all murders; murders that you are. In every land; like Warren Jeffs said. We are going into the thousand years of peace. Warren Jeffs said God will stop all you murders. All of you. Even the one's who bombed the twin towers, and kill children in the hospitals. Who kill the boys, in the boys home, that I watched on the news. These murders were protected by the County, because the County is murders too. And your soldiers come home, with out limbs from the war, Americans started. You lost your boys, your husbands, and friends, for the lies of your country men. The big boys in the authority position. You want me to trust murders. Sam Barlow only wanted to come back and have it like it used to be, so him and his boys could kill again. Yes, the lies the Barlow's told. And anonymous; you must be the Barlow's guppy to so blatantly protect them. And of course I know you do not know, they never tired to kill you, right? You are not a woman, or a baby. That is who they kill. and of course you are not Parley Harker, ill in a hospital. They only kill people they think are weak. Weak, that no one cares about. But, wait until your day of going comes. You can have your place in hell, with the murders, you and Rod Parker defended. How about it, Rod Parker, how many women and children do you think you hurt, defending the Murder Sam Barlow? And we will look you in the eye and call you a murder too, in the Resurrection day.
Could this be why Sam Barlow sign on his office had graphics of jawbone of a ass.
Judges Chapter 15 15 Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men. 16 Then Samson said, "With a donkey's jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey's jawbone I have killed a thousand men.
Yes, you have described Sam Barlow, It will be like this; with the government, I have destroyed many souls. With the Judges and the paper work, I did after I kidnapped my victums, I have killed many. He did not use a jaw bone. He used the government and his slick mouth, to kill. Hidden in plain sight. His victums are many. Drownings, accidents over the hill, children with their heads bashed in, Yes he killed many. And they will be waiting to testify when he crosses over. In the land where liers and murders are not protected by government bully's. yes the colorado City Cops are murders and accessories to murder.
and for all of you that use the government to destroy souls; what will you tell those you murdered. The Cooke family law suit is in place. Yes, the Judges are bigists that hate. They do the job they can in hate. They destroy many souls, and hate. They are the government devils Warren Jeffs said would fall. How, many will they kill before the Lord handles them? Big mighty men that destroy souls on a lie. But Warren Jeffs said that a Dederal Government man will kill them, for attacking him. Yes, Cookes do not do things to hurt others, but they take the harrassment and bashing all their lives. They were hated the day before they were born. They were beaten and hated, and are still hated. The City did not win anything. They are murders who can kill in a slick government way; and Judges are pigs. All Judges in this country are murders and pigs, and will soon be sent to hell and into disillusion; along with the Barlow dogs who have always tried to kill them. Yes, the Barlow dogs have many souls to account for. And the Bastard Cooke men who assisted them in destroying souls; like Richard Cooke, Jack Cooke. Sam Barlow was the top dog. If these men lost power to hurt, they cast them out.
Who cares what Flora Jessop says. I read it. Aunt Martha was a cruel heartless women, and they need to forgive.
On the Law suit; Judges are not about truth. They are about who puts on the best show in their court. Who caters to their hormones the most, and the glory of their filth. they are the black Satin, Hitler dictators. they are the consentration camps of America. Who the hell are you all fooling? Pigs in a suit, that Kill Americans, in their Corupt pigs pens. All they are missing is the gas masks. And who cares about those they murdered and robbed? Americans are the Great Anti_Christ. Ready to go to hell, and into dissalusion. Are you ready? You murdering Devils; for the earth quake Warren Jeffs said would hit Pheonix; and stop your creepy murders and filth? Are you dogs ready for your dissalusion day? and the Creeps who kill in the creek; Are you and your creepy cops and pig judges ready for your disalusion day?
The people of Colorado City and Arizona have been trying to destroy Cooke's from before they were born. How to murder women and children in the creek and walk away free; be born a Cooke and know a Barlow. Barlow's can murder children and walk away free, because the cops protected them in it. Barlows can bash little baby's heads in and walk away free, because they are Barlow's and the Colorado City Cops protect them in it. Barlow's can torture and torment children and baby's and walk away free, in Colorado City, because cops protect them in it. Barlows can beat children half to death as a principle in the Colorado City School district and walk away free, because the Colorado City cops protected them in it. Barlows can beat their own children half to death and walk away free, because the Colorado City cops protected them in it. Barlows can deprive a man of water, because they hate him. Yes, they are great murders and liars; these City men, in the creek. How many souls do you think they destroyed? I know a few. How many souls do you suppose the colorado city cops have destroyed for a Murdering Barlow man? I know a few. I have met another who knows a few, and for all you cowards who dare not speak, and these murders are free to murder again; how many more did this barlow bastards murder? Sam Barlow was their leader. He is the one who goes as a front to get the government to lable the people they kill, before they kill them. The men who will sell out their family are the next dogs down the list. And the people who gossip are the final ax. Yes, you murders; your time on earth will never be forever. All men will cross over and you murders will not be hidden; then you will be cast to hell to pay the debt of the baby's you killed; the boys you tormented; the women you destroyed; the people you hurt. Ye, murders of the blackest die. Sam Barlow was the leader. Alvin Barlow is a murder. Dan Barlow is a murder. Stephan Barlow is a murder, and they actually think they are hid. Our cops will also pay the price for the souls they assisted these men in killing.
Do you think the men will go to the government and confess? In a world where murder is upheld? Lets begin the list; Alvin Barlow, Richard Cooke, Willard Barlow, Stephan Barlow, Shelly Cooke, Dan Barlow Jr. Charles Johnson, Thel Johnson, Ezera Draper, Sam Barlow, Dr. Linskey, Dr. Smith, Ruth Huth, Barbera Brown, Alecia Mackleprang, Hyrum Roundy, Henery Cooke, Gene Cooke, These are the childmollesters; Doug Cooke, I will continue the list later. I am tired just thinking about them. The government people are just the people who beleived the lies of the murders and child mollesters and assisted them in sabatage. Course I realize you all have to have your sycotic meds, but then you would not suport murders and child mollesters and harrass their victums if you did not ; and to the women in Byers Colorado that protected Shelly Cooke in walking free from the three children he mollested there, just because the court let him go did not make him not guilty; and because you protected him in it, you are also guilty of his wicked filth. Child mollester and protector of child mollester; just like the Colorado City cops. Pigs in a pig pen, with your pig judges.
I just heard that Hyrum Roundy gave you a ticket. I am surprised. I did not know he had any balls. I did think he only picked on baby's and women and protected abusive men. I hope you are going to sue him now. I am ready too. I only was side stepping his attacks on me, but have made up my mind to engage. I will face the bastard. He is a thief, besides a protector of abuse. He is a bully and frankly the city is wasting water. They need sued for that. I am grateful that they have begun to attack the government people. That is one day that they are closer to their end. I know beyond a reasonable doubt that the attorneys for the City do not care if men murder women and children. But, when the little ball-less men, start attacking the government men; their time in city employment is over. And to all you Bastards that would defend men who protect the men who abuse women and children, that call themselves attorneys; the blood of my children reek upon your hands. All you government Bastards that destroy women and children these men in the creek hire you to kill, rob and cheat. Your time is coming. Your fiends from hell. Did the city have a victory, or did the ball-less Hyrum Roundy rob another woman? After the men did murder her children and beat her up, and slam her? What hypocritical bastards. I really thought what I was told was true, about the government being murders, until I found out the men in the creek hired the government to sabotage, murder and destroy. If you kill me for the lies and sabotage; more power to you murders. There will be one more, waiting for you fiends to cross over.
I hope you sue Hyrum Roundy for attacking you Sam Brower. I had to post this publicly because you charge a dollar to receive a message on face book. One things is certain; Bastards are Bastards. And when Bastards start attacking someone besides little baby's and women in the creek; other bigger government men take the Bastards down. They are not as satisfied to die, like the women and children that the men killed, are.
Dear Hyrum Roundy,
I certainly did not know you had balls. I wonder who you borrowed yours from. Did you get your pair, after you castrated your dog? I did think you only protected men who murdered children, and abused women. I will ask Sam Brower to loan you a pair, when you are done with your piss and vinegar. No wonder you had to run over the dog, last week on the sidewalk. You needed balls. Just in case you do not know it; Stolen balls will not give you courage. I hope Sam Brower sues you, and protects the dogs in our Community.
Post below was posted on FLDS TX blog. I suppose this is the reference to Ruth's mentioning running over a dog. The post is long and will be posted in two pieces.
I’m not sure if this is the proper forum for this but I know that a lot of people from Colorado City/ Hildale read this blog.
Yesterday, 2/20/13, around 4 or 5 pm., my neighbor’s non-flds children were with their little dog (which was loose with them) down by the dairy at the corner of Juniper and Arizona Ave.. One was in kindergarten and one was a bit older. A man in a white, double cab ford pickup with a utility bed, tried to run the little dog down, right in front of the children.
The older boy was screaming at the driver to please not run over his dog, but the driver just looked at him, laughed and pressed on. The little dog jumped up on the sidewalk, desperately trying to get away, but the driver of the truck followed and jumped his truck up on the sidewalk as well, then successfully crushed the little dog, right in front of the little kindergarten boy and his brother.
The young boy and his older brother are still trying to get over the trauma of having to watch their little dog’s brains get all squished out, right in front of them.
This all happened at a blind corner, and with all the abnormally tall fences in this town now, the chance of a wreck is greatly exacerbated. If children on bikes had been coming down the hill to be with their brothers, the driver speeding on the sidewalk, with his attention intent on trying to kill the dog, might never have had enough time to swerve or stop and a nasty wreck could have happened.
The older one of the two gave the Mohave County Police the description of the vehicle and said that the driver then drove over to the construction project, on the other side of the dairy by the hi-way, and parked. I’ve heard it is the new town fire house that they are building there.
This is a small town and there can’t be that many white pickups with utility beds around here that would park at that construction site. We can catch them if we work together.
Continued post Also, on 12/6/12, just after dark, my daughter and her friend were late getting the horses home, and were only 3 blocks away, when someone in a white pickup, with abnormally bright lights, sped up and charged at my daughter’s friend’s horse.
They came out of Harold Black’s yard on West Edson Ave.. I hope that it was only their intention to try and frighten the horse and get it to run away with her or buck her off. That is a common occurrence that happens in this town if you are a non-flds resident.
The reality is, that in their misguided ambition to scare the young non-flds girl (it is easy to tell the difference because she wasn’t wearing a dress), they were not paying attention to their driving and nearly hit my daughter with their truck. She was following behind her friend on another horse. The driver then sped away from the scene; it may have been an extended or stretch cab white truck. Obviously it happened very unexpectedly and fast.
The young girls then made it the rest of the way down the block and were waiting under the streetlight to safely cross the road at the corner of Richard and Edson. My daughter had her puppy following them and it started out into the road alone.
Someone coming the other way, in an older model, midsized, grayish car, sped up, swerved and tried to run the puppy down. The puppy panicked and raced completely across the road and up on the shoulder of the opposite road, with the car following closely on its heels. The puppy was terrified and frantically yelping as he was run down by the car, right in front of the girls eyes.
If anyone has any knowledge about any of these crimes, they can call the Mohave County Sheriffs Office at 1-800- 526-1911.
If any flds members read this blog…..Last week, someone tried to run a non-flds driven vehicle off the road with their vehicle. They were then chased down by the parties who were run off the road and ended up having a heart to heart talk with them and their parents.
Charges were not pressed this time, but the young flds mans excuse that they are “just bored around here”, is not an excuse for the sometimes dangerous B.S. that is constantly going on around here involving the flds and the non-flds citizens of our community.
Last Thursday, I had a hard time feeding my horses because of the hail of rocks, boulders and coal being thrown at me by the neighbors. That very morning, while I was stopped at a stop sign, someone in a white mini-van swerved hard at me and almost hit my truck while honking incessantly, then they swerved back to their lane of traffic.
Snow et al v. Hon. Lindberg http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/supopin/Snow1315031213.pdf
We hold that the UEP and the Reformed Trust were not the same client. Therefore, there was no attorney-client relationship between SCM and the Reformed Trust.
As a result, the district court erred when it disqualified SCM from representing Movants and ordered SCM to disgorge privileged attorney-client information to the Special Fiduciary of the Reformed Trust.
None of you know who post, unless they put their name to it. I will tell you what I think. The people in Colorado City and Hildale Utah have overlooked crime for so long, that they most likely think running a dog and a mans children down to be normal. I mean, after all Sam Barlow hired Rod Parker to cover up his murders. Why would men like that care about a dog and a child being ran over. And as far as the dogs being killed that has gone on all my life. Men used to try to run my animals down. They put my horse to sleep, why I was gone. That is what the cops did to me. I say again. Hyrum Roundy was the kind of man who would do that. He would beat a woman up for the man, and defend the man in molesting children. Why, would it be so strange that after forty seven years some one would care? Just because the county has finally after all these years decided to treat the people here as people, what makes you think murders would quit being murders? I mean after all they have good protectors, these murders do. We have no normal court here, so we have to post here. All we have is a bought judge for a bitch that is so prejudiced that she would sell her own son out to the devil. Why do you think the cops would steal your dogs body parts? do you think their bought bitch judge would need them. She does not need them. She has a heart of stone, like the bastards that killed my children. And why would a bitch like her, need balls; she has the bastard cops. Do you think the C.C. cops do not know who does these things? You are living in a dream world if you believe that they did not hire the people who do these things. Do you honestly think the excuse of men, that walk around this city with their badges on their pance; care about you? do you think you will get the information to convict them? You all live in a bigger dream world than I thought. Sam Barlow was a murder. Helamon Barlow is a child molester and a murder. Who do you think would kill your children and dog? some cute little lady down the road? dream on. And as far as the Judge ruling on the land. It was not their land. They had no authority to make a ruling. The land was owned by another. One you all hate. Your hatred does not excuse the stealing of the land. Nor, does the hatred of the cops, excuse them trying to kill you and your dog. And as far as the attorneys that protect these murdering bastards, they are also murdering bastards. And do not assume you know who speaks, when you do not.
And if every man was honest here, half the men in this community would go turn themselves in for molesting children. But, they can not look the people they abused in the eye. They can sit in court and with their friends and tell their lies, but they can not look the ones they hurt in the eyes. They are murders and they know it. Bastards like Barbera Brown may not know it. But she does know she is a prejudice bought bitch. That much she has proven. So, good luck in catching murders protected by a bought bitch. Protected by hired thieves and liars calling themselves attorneys. Yes, Sam Barlow was important to these murders. He held the attorneys in his hands and they were paid too. Thus, Rodney Parker also is an accomplice to murder. Now, I know that I will be attacked again for having an opinion; but murders they are. and reporting their abuse will get you no where, they will just kill you. If they know who reported it. And Hyrum Roundy would not think twice about lieing to a judge after he killed your dog and daughter. After all, you are not in the church. And he has his crowd of dogs, just like Sam Barlow did. Him and his hired theifing attorneys, that protect child molesters and murders.
Make my day, Issac; press charges against these murders who go out and try to run women down who are not in their church. Press charges against the cops who protect men in murdering women and children, who they do not like. Start with that Barlow man, who was married to Flora Mae's sister. He is the one who runs over people with full police protection. Haven Barlow. Lets clean up the city; but then again you all let Sam Barlow murder your women and children; why discriminate when it comes to others who try the same thing and it is your children. go over and see if Barbera Brown will stop her plundering murdering cops. And the filthy murdering men, they protected. They will kill you too, if you try. And they write up the report, so the County will protect them, those that pay the bill to murder.
Most comments on this site are by a woman who is well-known in the original flds area. She was born and raised flds. She is very courageous and has things to say which are sometimes definitely worth hearing. Other times she gets on a repetitious and almost delusional track, so it's hard for most people to continue trying to have a calm conversation with her. She has suffered wrongs, as many who are flds have suffered, and she has gone back and forth in loyalty to warren jeffs. This is very understandable, considering how information-deprived flds are, as is ordered by warren. People who are not flds need to grasp that all flds are conditioned extremely thoroughly from birth to revere and not question flds leadership, ESPECIALLY taught to never question whoever is "prophet." This affects everything they think and do, every day. Anyway, this born-and-raised flds person I am referring to, that blogs very frequently on this site, is somewhat intellectually-challenged and emotionally scarred as a result of her flds upbringing, and probably has some inherited problems (flds has a pretty high proportion of inherited problems due to close intermarriage practices.) She tries very hard to express her thoughts and feelings, and of course she has that right. She and many others know of terrible things that have happened in the lawless and backward flds areas of Hildale Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona. It makes for lots of very emotional attempts to get justice and mental relief. I don't think most flds will ever get either one. They have been raised in one of the most emotionally damaging groups I have ever heard of, and there is and has been much criminal activity within the cult for many years.
She makes some very serious allegations. Tell me, are all of Hilldale and Colorado City flds? Mostly? Large part? Do non flds have any local or county power? Have outside authorities ever come in and investigate said charges. This woman names names. Prominent names, I gathered from light research. I am very fascinated by all this. I am looking forward to that special about Flora Jessop. I heard that flds children have been put on a bean and water only diet... have you heard of this? Again, this is all very bizarre to me. My interest is purely educational. But I am trying to get an authentic feel of what is really going on in this community. Also... is the Texas complex still thriving. I read mixed reports concerning it. Any info about it? Thanks
Unbelievable. How this continues to happen is just incredible. And the recent vote on HB 4628 is equally shocking. Sure it passed, but the 7 who voted against it seem to be in cahoots with the local FLDS. It's obvious to me as an outsider. Doris Goodale seems to be leading the cover up attempts from the Arizona house floor. Why? She's not even Mormon, let alone FLDS. According to Rep Goodwin and Rep Pierce from Mesa, HB 4628 is an over reach and is aimed at specifically Colorado City. They also claimed that accusations like the ones above are no longer a concern because its all "past history". Why would anyone take this approach rather than say something like "too much government" or some standard GOP anti-government stance. "This is past history" is not a reason to forgo investigations... at least not in my book. Hell - we're still looking for Nazis. Of course, this blog says otherwise. It's not all in the past. And it looks like election fraud is alive and well in Colorado city with some candidates getting 100% of the vote in some races. We don't hear about it because it looks like the fraud was contained to local races with little or no national implications. But it seems to me that as long as flds members are elected to various positions in that area.. and they continue to make nice with people like Goodwin (still don't understand her position... maybe you can tell me something about it) and Pierce, they are going to continue getting away with whatever they want. Again, Goodwin is a mystery to me. I don't get her position at all.
Flora Jessop was born at the bottom of an oppressive hierarchy established by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the FLDS. Growing up in Colorado City, Arizona, she suffered greatly at the hands of her father. A torment of sexual, physical, and psychological abuse. As she grows, she begins to speak out against these injustices, but at a cost. Under the constant scrutiny of her family and a group of violent men nicknamed "The God Squad," Flora eventually attempts a daring midnight escape--only to be discovered and returned to Colorado City, this time under the watchful eye of her sadistic aunt Lydia. After several more years of torment and abuse, Flora eventually gains her freedom through the most unlikely of chance events. Upcoming Airings
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Hard to wrap my head around all this. One thing about Eldorado: Attorney General Abbot stated that seizure does not mean eviction. Not sure how that will play out later. And since the place is so closed off, how do we know there are still people there? Also, if they are still there, do you think any of them are trying to escape? My understanding is that group in Texas is the creme de la creme, with regard to loyalty to Jeffs and thus the people there would be as fundamental as can be. People tell me things like polygamy-rape and forced marriage don't happen in America. Clearly and sadly, they are wrong.
And people that abuse are protected by the Colorado City Police Department, why those that speak out are slammed, in a lie. Helamon Mollests children. Johnathon did drugs.
yes, they are all covering up their crimes. Of course it is easy for them to say it is in the past, and the men scream at the women to forget the past too. of course so Doris Goodall can get her paycheck. and the men have more girls to abuse.
This is how I see it. These men who murder women and children have to have the government to cover up, and they have to have the children to abuse. Now, the cops are so thick in the garbage, that they protect people in abuse, with no evidence. Their husband said, or the family is harassing the woman to death, because they would not submit to the Priesthood head, who is beating them up and tormenting them and the children. The children are punished and punished and punished, and soon to be obedient they are assisting the man in abusing the woman too. And the cycle starts over. That is the sadness of it. And they have to make the woman look stupid to cover up their lies.
Feds Former FLDS spokesman cant have Warren Jeffs Escalade The ...A former follower and spokesman for Warren Jeffs is trying to seize the imprisoned FLDS prophet's SUV, but the government won't turn it over.
Yes, clearly and saddly America assisted Sam Barlow in his cover up of the sodomy society. How many more of you " " are there out there, that abused women and children and covered it up? I have ten more names to add to the list. But, you should confess your own sins to the Lord and go to your judgment. Ye, feinds of the pit.
and spoken like a true liar that you are; who owes the tax? Did Bruce Wisen steal the U.E.P. and if it was his as you all claim why is he not paying the tax? Oh, I am glad I am not you in the resurrection day, with your enjoyment of others suffering for your lies.
And it is written, " as they hung Jesus on the cross, they mocked him and spit on him." so it is with you, as you crucify your Lord again; for as you have done to the least of these, so have you done it unto him. Where are these theives who told me that Warren Jeffs would be shot in three years and the land stolen and sold, and every one here would have to find somewhere else to live. And how will you excuse your filth and lies to God in the day of Judgment?
except this is how Sam Barlow and his sodomy society told it to me; Tell us who your next leader will be so we can kill him. so, it has nothing to do with the mans name. and you part his cloak as the jews did Jesus's cloak. And if you murder him, Ye feinds of the eternal pit, Jesus will still rule and you shall go to hell. God can not be stopped. and your eternal fate in hell has been set. You murders who would kill for a lie, when you are the ones who are guilty. Why did you not choose life and happiness? You thieves who say the government rules and uphold a man that steals. Yet it is written who the land belongs too. Did Wisen just get a settlement to pay for the land he stole? Gee, when the Bishop Fred Jessop was here the tax was always paid; so a thief takes the land and the tax is thrown in the face of those Sam Barlow and his sodomy society would have killed. Yes, you murders will have a lot to pay for; You murders of the eternal pit.
Willy Jessop is simply a Judas, who sold his birthright, and would crucify his lord, and you are the crowd that would have released Barbabas, so you could hang an inacent man. Why the Hell is the tax not paid; you devils who steal, rob and plunder. Where in America can you steal mans land, legally. And you think because you are professional Sam Barlow, sodomy society that God does not hear, nor see; and you will always be free to torture? wait a bit. No man lives forever and your fate is sealed. You murders who protected Sam BArlow in his sodomy society. mock on, your chair is waiting in hell.
And just in case you murders and thieves do not understand hell, I shall tell it to you. Hell is a condition of the mind. It is a knowledge of your own sins, as you stand before God. Then you have your minds open. There will be no others to speak. A record is kept perfectly and you are your own judge; for your sins eat at you forever, and in the Resurrection day when you see that you can not have eternal life, and will have to go into the second death, and you know that your judgment is just, then there is weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth; for you murdered and plundered and raided your probation time away; and are stuck in hell. And the War has begun. Why did you choose death? what sorrow you will reap. Why did you choose death and murder and stealing? Why did you not walk with God and live in peace all the day long?
So, Sam Barlow's childmolesting society went very deep. Cameras to watch the cops beat up woman and lie and cheat, why they protect the men in molesting children. But, I was down in Hurricane Utah the other day. There are a lot of cameras there. I wonder if they are there for Sam Barlow's child molesting society to keep track of girls too.
thank You for that confession, you perverted person. I know you all claim to believe that to disobey is death to you, but People did distort religion. Obedience to God is what you was supposed to obey; not Sam Barlow and his Child Molesting society. How many more confessions will it take to get the filth from this community. Helamon Barlow is a child Molester. That is one reason that the child Molesters are protected. Lets have you all confess to the attorney General, and save the girls. I know that you think stalking them is fun and lieing and molesting, but eventually you are caught and go to hell and dissolution. Why wait until death to go pay for your filth. Go now!
Re: These comments about various people who did many wrongs within flds: Have you faced what kind of person Joseph Smith was? He introduced idea of saving one's soul by participating in "plural marriage." This is where "fundamentalist" inequality between males and females flows from- Smith's twisted early mormon teachings. It's just a short step from that, to the way thousands of girls have been conditioned from birth within these super-strict, enforced-behavior polygamy societies that dot the landscape of our spread-out, hard-to-police US west. Polygamists were able to thrive in Utah, as nobody else during wagon train days really wanted that land at that time. They could get away with their lawless practices for awhile. They'd been chased out of one area back east after another because of the immorality they taught. Their practices were destructive of families and social standards. Polygamy has never been legal in any US colonies, or any US state, BECAUSE it was known to be immoral and hurtful. Something heathens were prone to, from the old world, particularly from the unChristianized areas of the old world. Even in spite of the fact that slavery was unfortunately not abolished sooner (if mechanization had happened sooner, slavery would have died out quickly)- Yet polygamy was NEVER tolerated if found out, and was cause for outrage. Utah was not to be given statehood until these practices were stopped, but they never fully complied,keeping it in hiding in places too hard to police. The real reason it continues today is not because of men! It is WOMEN who continue to participate in it, allowing it, allowing themselves to be brainwashed because they will not study for themselves. There is not one line or one verse in any part of the Bible where God ordained or commanded anything except monogamy. No matter how hard someone studies the Bible, they will never find God commanded a man to have more than one wife at a time. Yes, polygamy was practiced, but NEVER COMMANDED by God. That idea came from Joseph Smith, who just didn't want to live within his AMERICAN marriage vows to Emma. Smith was born and raised American, so was bound by our laws here, not the law somewhere else on earth, and not just because he decided inside his head that God commanded something which God never did. That's all there is to all of this, and that's all that it has ever been, and all it will ever be. Women all over the western US are being brow-beaten with mormon "fundamentalist" garbage simply because they refuse to study the Bible for themselves without the mormon history veil of lies draped over everything they think. All these problems with fundamentalist mormonism can be traced very easily back to the foundations of this belief system- this so-called "mormonism." Did you know that even the term mormonism does not have a clear link with anything in particular that has any historical respectability? "Mormo" was a god of death, an idol from some obscure occult practices, and Joseph Smith and his friends just wanted to make money, so the Book of Mormon was thrown together for that purpose- to sell copies and make money. Smith was very much into Freemasonry, and he knew the Bible well enough to borrow chunks of it to mix in with names and places which he and friends made up out of their heads, to make a book sounding sort of like the Bible, in order to reel in people who were curious about some ideas on the native Americans that were popular at that time(but false.) All this "fundamentalist" abuse of women and children has come straight from the teachings of Smith's fantasies of the 1830's. You will never see much improvement from within a group that stubbornly refuses to face its own roots once and for all. Those roots need to be abandoned.
The real reason it continues today is not because of men! It is WOMEN who continue to participate in it, allowing it, allowing themselves to be brainwashed because they will not study for themselves.
It is written that those upon this continent are UN-believers and the grossest sinners ever to have inhabited the States. I do not supose I could expect you to believe or understand what would save your soul. You do not even believe in the basic of American; restricting religious freedom. And have you ever considered that you are brain washed and in a tiny dot in your head? Preach your garbage some where else. It was bigoted people like you that murdered a man for his believes. And his blood is upon you.
No, dear, I am not bigoted. It is you that still will not face the truth about the evil man, Joseph Smith, who lived a hypocritical and debauched life, and taught others to do the same. He drank alcohol often, he was a constant womanizer, and he approved of dishonest money schemes. He had cheating, trickery, and lying schemes going on at any given time, to convince people of his "prophecy" ability. He alienated many people who actually followed him and believed in him for awhile, in addition to the ones who kept believing in him, denying what they could see right in front of their eyes, things that he was doing that they once believed were wrong before they were mesmerized by him. He tried to halt the spread of the truth about his collection of "wives" by having the printing press destroyed which published a report about his many affairs. In some of his writings and remarks which have been found, Smith even claimed to be better than Jesus, did you know that? Didn't you know Smith made outrageous statements condemning ALL of the churches of his day? teaching that they were all tools of the devil? Yet at the same time, he borrowed heavily from their ideas to create his "new religion." I stand by every word I wrote in my above comment. Many people have done meticulous research on Smith, Brigham Young, and all the other early mormon leaders whose writings are fully available for research to anyone who wants to put in the time. These men in the 1800's led many people astray, and the very incomplete information which is still fed to mormons today is allowing that deception to go on and on. The Bible was the final word on morality in America, and Smith tried to change that, to justify his filthy life. The early mormons created community-wide anger time after time in the eastern and midwestern US until they ended up in the Salt Lake area. This was because they taught and did things directly the opposite of what most Americans felt was moral and decent. I stand by every word of my above remarks. You and those in these polygamist groups that have never known freedom to study as you need to, because of the way you were raised, and because you are afraid to face the truth, are the ones who refuse to see this simple truth. Yes, we have religious freedom her, and that is an extremely valuable and precious thing, setting our nation apart from the majority of nations that have ever existed. Unfortunately, not all religious PRACTICES can or should be protected here in the US, IF they are in violation of other laws being enforced that are designed to protect the innocent and vulnerable. One can believe anything one wants to, but one simply cannot go ahead and commit crimes against others and then call it protected religious practice. Any and all manner of incredibly bad behaviors would result if ALL "religious practices" were permitted that people would start laying claim to. As far as your remarks trying to say people like me are responsible for Joseph Smith's murder, I am pretty amazed that you say such things. The man committed outrageous deeds of immorality and vice, and some of his own neighbors finally put an end to his outrages. That was in the 1840's. This is 2013, and so much has been published about a man and his followers that were around only 180 years ago,so it's easy to find the real things these people said and did, in their own words and documents. Joseph Smith was no martyr, dear. He received better treatment than he deserved, for ruining so many marriages and families, and for selling so many lies to the thousands who have been deceived by his ridiculous and immoral ideas. Many of the things he said and taught were outright blasphemy against the teachings of the Bible. You are simply one of the many thoroughly brainwashed people who has been raised to revere a man who was actually one of the most immoral people of his time. You still think he is a hero because you refuse to read anything but approved fundamentalist mormon materials, I guess.
Here is a message to Barbara Brown; Like my family you only listened to the lies, of people who protected abuse all my life, people who wanted me dead, so that they would not be caught in molesting children. I know you will come up in the Resurrection as an accomplice to murder.
I am not sure why every one blames religion for what creepy child molesters do. That has nothing to do with religion. I do realize that not one place in religion teaches that it is part of the religion to molest. I do how-ever agree that only in short creek can a man molest his children daily, and every one acts as if it did not happen. Jack, Lynn, Richard, Doug, Marvin, Ross, Edwin, Henery, Gene Cooke, Dan, Dan Jr. Joe, Sam, Sam Jr. Willard, Alvin, Helamon, Carson Barlow, Joe Jessop and who else? I do know other names. Only the people who do not molest children are protected in c.c.
i did mean to say that those who do not molest children are persecuted half to death for reporting and talking about this abuse, and the men that do molest children, walk around as if nothing happened.
Dear Willard Barlow, Shelly Cooke and Richard Cooke, you sure never lied when you said this people hated me. Shelly, Remember, when you told my Mother that I just needed a friend? I know you was just checking her out to see if she cared that you cheated me. She never. You know that day you tried to rape me, and I screamed at you and ran home? She only slapped me. She slapped me and called Sam Barlow the cop, to lecture me. you knew it. It must make you feel real big to know you could take advantage of some one that every one hated.
And Willard Barlow, not one soul here in this community would have cared if you would have murdered me, just like you said. You was right. I bet you are feeling real big now, that you could abuse my baby's and walk away free. You must have been some kind of a God to them; or else it was just that they hated me. They still worship you here. Even though you was asked to leave. I bet you are just celibrating and celibrating that you was loved so much, and could kill and no one knew or cared.
And Richard Cooke, you was also loved more than anything. I bet you feel mighty big, being able to pick on someone every one hated. The three of you was right. I was hated. And I am still hated. That must make you feel good to know you could do to me what you did. Not one soul on earth would have helped me when you three was trying to kill me; that should make you really celebrate.
And Nate, why did you all protect my Father and hate me? Nate, my brother, never come to my house again. I do not want to see you. You was right, there was no love here.
This is a public message to my family; I never want to see you again. I never want to speak to you again. I am not your sister. I would rather be dead than have you speak to me ever again.
This is a public message to Barbara Brown; you must be some kind of hero to the child molesters you protected. You and your cop friends who hated me more than life. Now, that you do not have the county cops to protect these murders, who will they hire to kill me now?
The joke is on you though, Richard Cooke, Marvin Cooke, Shelly Cooke and Willard Barlow; I was a no soul to my Mother and family, but she was someone. You should have just stuck to killing me, and not picked on her and you would still have your pedistles and children to molest. I was a no soul to them, but she was someone. You picked on the wrong person. Your no soul was not important, but she was. now, you are alone with your lies and the people who love you in your lies, but I was a no soul. That should make you feel big; right. I mean it really took a lot of strength to destroy the life of someone every soul on earth hated, and little baby's. But pick on my Mommy dearest and you are out of there. So I am laughing at you murders. Mommy dearest was a person to them, and you are gone. I was a no soul, but Mommy dearest was the one and only.
Have you ever noticed Gretchen that it is people like you, who keep people like me in a prison and men like Sam barlow that murder children and protect murders in killing children in power. How would you feel if you watched a man murder your children and every one went around saying you was weird. I want you to know, that I am educated. I am actually above average and know more about the world and life than you ever will. And you use religion as an excuse to cover up for freaky murders like Sam Barlow. Sam Barlow has a long history of protecting child molesters and abusers and trashing the people who reported this abuse. So, please do not try to lable me. You have no Idea what you would do if men murdered your children right in front of you. Sam Barlow murdered other people besides my children. He will pay the price and murder has nothing to do with my religion. I do not know what you enclude in your religion, but murder, rape, and incest is not my idea of religion. So, please try to be open minded and get an education.
Found this plea on another blog. This is a link to her picture. http://politicsrusprinciple.tumblr.com/image/48553993797
My name is David Bistline. My family has been FLDS for generations. I live in Colorado City, AZ and my wife and I were given to each other by Rulon Jeffs, the father of Warren Jeffs. Unlike many other marriages which resulted in heartache and sadness, for us it was a match made in heaven. She was 21. I was 27.
Today I am still the husband of one and only one angel wife, and the father of ten children, plus another baby on the way. But my beloved wife and children have been separated from me as a result of the commandments of the prophet who rules this community. I cried when they were taken away and thought I would never live through it. I have cried on many walks and many nights when I sit alone in my house staring into the emptiness. I love my family with every beat of heart and I want them and the whole world to know that.
I miss my wife Esther, the most beautiful woman on earth. I miss my little ones. I was blessed to be able to spend so much time with the children and bond with them. I think about my children and worry about them every day.
In this community, the holiest people do not break the law and go on the Internet. In this, I confess my sins. I made this blog so the word of David Bistline’s love for his wife Esther will spread like seeds blowing in the wind with the hopes that one of those seeds will find its way into Esther’s world and grow in her heart, wherever she is. I love her and my children with a fire in my heart and I love the Lord my God with all my heart too. These two things go together.
One more thing. No man will ever love my wife and my children like I do. No man can tell me that God does not want me to take care of my wife and children. I will do everything in my power to ensure their welfare and deliverance, and I will stop at nothing within the law to get my family back, to protect them and keep them safe. To raise them right and to fill their lives with joy.
So if you see Esther Bistline or any of my children, please tell them that their father loves them and is waiting for them to come home.
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This Picture was of Joseph when he was in the hospital getting his teeth fixed. He was trying to decide whether he was happy or sad. I hope that we can get back together soon. He comes running to me every time I visit with him. I know he misses me and I know he loves me very much. My beautiful wife comforting him. I love her very much and hope to be back with her soon. For my honey Esther
Please read this and let your heart be softened to see the truth. God wants us to be together forever. 10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. I miss you dearly Esther. I love you so much. I miss and love all of my precious children Angela Lucille, David Lee Jr., Fredrick Dell, Edson Porter, Warren Leroy, William Daniel, Alvin Smith, Joseph Brigham, Kathleen Rose, Charlett Elaine, and Baby Boy Bistline.
Friday, May 10, 2013 Land Agreement Under Reformed FLDS United Effort Plan Trust Upheld
In Town of Colorado City v. United Effort Plan Trust, (D AZ, May 8. 2013), an Arizona federal district court gave a victory to the state of Utah in its efforts to reform the United Effort Plan Trust which holds property occupied by members of the polygamous Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). In this lawsuit, the twin towns of Colorado City, Arizona and Hildale, Utah (along with their water and electric companies) sought a declaratory judgment as to (1) whether transfers of property by the court-appointed special fiduciary are constitutional, and (2) whether the Cookes who occupy a parcel of land under a 2008 agreement with the special fiduciary or Robert Black who previously occupied it through a 1999 oral agreement under the unreformed trust have a legal right to it.
As to the constitutional issue, the court held that while the claim was not barred by res judicata or collateral estoppel (see prior posting), the towns are barred by the doctrine of laches from asserting their claims:
Plaintiffs waited years to assert that claim, during which hundreds of property transactions were completed in reliance on the validity of the reformed trust and Mr. Wisan’s actions
On the question of right to occupancy, the court ruled in favor of the Cookes. It focused on language in the trust at the time Black obtained his occupancy rights: "use of property owned by the United Effort Plan Trust is not and does not become a right or claim of anyone who may benefit in any way from the Trust." It also concluded that the statute of frauds precludes Black from asserting a claim of property rights and that Black has abandoned any rights he had in the property.
In that case, even Ronnie will benefit and no one can occupy any parcel of land here. So, the courts rule against their own rule. How interesting. who will they rob next?
Three lawsuits have been filed to take away our lands and houses and monies, even to take away this land.
For me to step forth and testify in court of the doings of my father in administering the Celestial Law and the Lord having me do things, perform ordinances and work and perform corrections, for me to step forth and voice anything to our enemies would prove me the traitor against God.
The Lord has shown me that He is allowing this test to come upon the people to see what we love most and to see if we have the faith to draw from the heavens the gifts and blessings we need to establish Zion, to have God and the angels among us, that we may have His protection here and on the other lands of refuge.
By me not answering the courts and not naming a lawyer, it will put us into default in the eyes of the judges and will bring a pressure where they will search for me. They have been searching for me to serve the legal documents, even to these very gates of this property.
And we can expect the loss of the United Effort Plan Trust, the dissolving of the Church organization by the courts, the freezing of our assets as a people and the Church, and the Lord will now see whether or not we love God, Priesthood, and the celestial Law above all, or if we love our property and our earthly blessings and conveniences most.
Many will accuse me of forsaking this people.
This will ultimately result in the driving of the faithful as the halfhearted will fear and compromise with the government and our enemies.
And this will result in persecution, suffering, and death. And our enemies will be guilty of shedding innocent blood.
I and the trustees are not forsaking the United Effort Plan Trust.
We are upholding it.
And whatever comes against us will be the result of those wicked people who are fighting us. This work will go on.
I tell you these things to awaken you to how vital this mission is, that these lands of refuge must be established as one for if we fall short again, we will affect the very lives of our loved ones and of the Priesthood people.
He is showing me that soon the assets and bank accounts of the Church will be frozen. We can't use them." You said, "The only source and means we will have is from the people."
Warren Jeffs September 2004
Attention FLDS Faithful...The Jeffs are stealing YOUR millions away to protect themselves, Mother Merilyn and Naomi.
and as long as I have ever lived, the taxes have always been paid. I am a witness to murder too. yes, you murders have a lot to account for. Murders murders and murders.
I like the Idea of not answering them. For you all know the truth. The land was stollen and honest people oppressed. Yes, you all know the guilt of your own hands. I think I will speak less. for the children you murdered will tell the story to God and speak. Then there will be weeping and wailing and knashing of teeth, that you thought you could hide your murders from the Lord.
Here is a test question; if six murders and child mollesters go to court and slam dunk their victum; to keep them quiet and win the case; who was guilty and who was not?
ReplyDeleteHere is a poem; Moses walked a long time ago; he taught the people. They laughed and joked and said his words had fallen. Now, we walk upon the land; a Prophet God did send. Here he was mocked and scorned, like in days of yor" But, they are gone, those mockers of yesterday. Here we stand, with time fleeting. Fleeting away, until you are dust again; for laughing at, God and time anyway. Life is but a moment, and then we pass on. A brand new year, you deride with no tear; The Prophet has not failed, because your mocking is hailed; Yes, Tyranny still pulls, on the web, with all who ARE fools, I mean to all who work with the devils tools.
ReplyDeleteThe Prophet has not failed;
because your mocking is hailed;
Yes, Tyranny still drools;
with all who work with the devils tools.
I stood alone, with the crowd; invisible there. One whispered and accused. Soon, a few told the lie; Then the crowd, joined the cheer. Shamed and scorned, I stood alone; in the crowd. Until the laughter died; I held my head high. For the one lie; the crowd did cheer. Until, they were cheated too; by the one, who told the tale; and they lay ill. And the crowd, fell alone, scattered. Who was the one that cared? All, it took, was the whisperer, the lie was scattered in the wind; the whisperer, the whisperer, and they told the lie again. Until it choked them, with the dust; of the clatter, and the crowd, stood alone in scatter. get my dander up, a little more, and Texas will be in a drool, I mean drought; storms abound, the scatter. Cattle men give up, because they have no hay; and men march on the white house. Yes, right on schedual; you have the pipper man to pay. Lies, mockery, and the wild crowd; all go home alone, to face the mirror and death lays on the other side; until you cross over to face your fate, of souls you tried to destroy, and scatter. Your raid, was wild; your rampage crazy; oh, that is what you said of them. Justifying your relenting, raving. And the world walked on, among the storm; the media lie forgotton. New Orleans was flooded, and New York City, and the flames. Homes destroyed, tears aplenty; and you mock, mock, mock, and your crowd grew thinner.
ReplyDeleteAre you referring to Warren Jeffs a failure.
ReplyDeleteJeffs is not a prophet, just a delusional man keeping track of the news from his prison cell, something not allowed by his followers.
Get a dictionary.
Dictionary? Nah. Too black and white.
ReplyDeleteGet a perspective. Each one is as unique as the individual. Yours is just one among millions. Today, mine's inside-out and cynical and could change tomorrow.
BTW, the last part of your second sentence makes no sense whatsoever. For that, get a grammar reference.
A Cynic
Obviously, anonymous 1/12/2013 12:05 meant "something warren does not allow his followers to do"- something not allowed TO his followers, not "by his followers." Just a simple typo- and we all make them. (But no, another rude "cynic" (anon 3:14)had to hurl an insult. So I will just hurl one back- I am very tired of trying to be polite to people who obviously don't care about being polite themselves.-and self-identified as a cynic- so I don't care. This topic- flds and its outrages- does not need cynics in the discussion- flds-related problems are so numerous and hard to solve that cynicism is a complete waste of time.)
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 12:05- you made an excellent point- warren does things that he doesn't want his followers to do. That would sum up much of his behaviors.w throws people out of the group by the hundreds for doing anything like the things he has been doing every day for many years. It is a tragic thing that those loyal to him still do not know this because of the fear in which they are raised.
Anniversary of Warren Jeffs confession.
ReplyDelete"I am not the prophet"
January 24, 2007
Excellent, anonymous 7:06 pm!
ReplyDeleteIn his own words...Warren Jeffs
ReplyDeleteDictation September 26, 2002
But there is a sign that can always detect a false prophet; and it is the spirit of accusing, establishing his right to rule, saying because that person is wrong, we are right. If we could prove everybody wrong, that wouldn't mean we are right. We are only right if we possess the Spirit of God.
Warren in 2007 admitted he was not a prophet (not possessing the Spirit of God) to those in charge by phone January 24th, 2007. Merril Jessop, Nephi Jeffs, Naomie Jeffs, Lindsey Barlow, William Jessop.
January 25th, 2007
Announced he was not the prophet on video to Nephi Jeffs.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLxkCN1Obzw
Jeffs last call stating "I am not the one to be the prophet and I am not the one to continue." came on June 11, 2007 to Merril Jessop.
Jeffs called Merril Jessop on June 12, 2007 and stated "expressions of unworthiness needed to be careful"
April and May 2007 Warren took back the position of prophet only to give it back in a brief moment on June 11, 2007.
In Warren's call to Merril Jessop on June 12th, 2007
he stated the lawyers called and were concern about him.
Merril Jessop through the lawyers put Warren back on message to profit hood.
"The spirit of accusing.." Wow- and how many times has the scoundrel warren practiced this horrific spirit of accusing, and this so-called "establishing his right to rule," by his outrageous and cruel statements about so many flds men and women and teens? How many times have his diabolical statements about hundreds of people ruined their lives, caused suicides, and caused irreversible grief to others? in order to rid the flds of all opposition, to grasp assets of families, destroy natural family affections, rip hundreds of families to shreds, facilitate rape of youngsters, destroyed good men's entire adult lives in every way possible, facilitated abandonment of people too young to live on their own,and take hundreds of tiny, dependent children prisoner? This is just amazing. I still cannot fathom how blind those people are, who remain faithful to this unspeakably treacherous and demented person, even as we speak. It is quite a testament to the incredible layers of brainwashing in the flds.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone any news of Betty Jessop?
ReplyDeleteWednesday, October 5, 2005
ReplyDeleteRecord of President Warren Jeffs
Page 540
I did describe to these brethren again that the Lord warned me about the Barlow men. And I told them what the Lord had shown me that these men killed Uncle Parley and aspired.
And I did tell them of the vision the Lord had given me concerning Truman Barlow, that before Father's passing, Truman aspired, and the devil put it in his heart how to kill father and hide it and get away with it, and he himself be appointed the leader.
Would anyone care to comment on this?
Was it Barlow or Jeffs who had it in their heart to kill the Prophet?
those Barlow men are " " murders. They need to confess and go on there way to Hell. To the nest life to the Hell they chose.
ReplyDeleteMan, it seems like there are plenty of murders to go around in flds. People who have been out of flds awhile have said they are afraid to talk about the things they know. Some have said they know people have been "eliminated," (that includes cremations.) So much has been hidden from the public, and even still hidden from people that are still blindly following warren. It's just amazing. This group is almost nothing but bad news. I guess it will be many years before we ever will get all of the facts. I think there have been so many eliminations that we will never piece it all together. What a disgrace. It really is like the Taliban and the Mafia.
ReplyDeleteGretchen, please be careful about reading too much into "anonymous'" comment regarding murder allegations. Uncle Parley wasn't "killed" as such. I believe he died in a hospital. Warren's claim that he was killed is based on a second "blessing" some men gave him after the one warren had arranged. Warren then blamed the men for killing Parley because their "blessing" somehow prevented his being preserved (surviving). Just another excuse from warren as to why his didn't turn out the way he had anticipated. His passing served a dual purpose though, imo. First, it vacated the first councilor position into which warren hastily placed himself and second, warrens calling the men murderers diminished the (then elevated) status of the men in the eyes of many in the community who were already looking upon warren as some kind of leader. This appears to be one of the first steps warren took to eventually have them expelled from the community thereby eliminating leadership competition. (imo, this comment illustrates a mountain made into a molehill. It is my interpretation of what I saw and heard at the time.)
ReplyDeleteI am not talking about just the above anonymous comment. I am referring to a number of other interviews I have come across over the past 8 years where people who have been out of flds awhile seem significantly afraid even today, regarding things they indicate went on over the years, but that they do not want to be specific about. I have been watching and reading everything I can all that time regarding flds, and it seems clear to me that there have been many serious "activities" going on that have been assiduously hidden from authorities. I am sure it isn't that hard to do at all(the truth hiding thing) when there is so much fear of retribution in the people who have grown up in these kinds of groups.
ReplyDeleteGretchen, I grew up in the group and still live in town. I have NEVER been threatened. And while I have not been welcomed with open arms after choosing not to be a part of the church, I do not know of anything sinister like murder as you would have people believe. It is possible that other people have had a different experience. Just sayin... Please don't jump to conclusions. It makes your readers believe the worst and creates extreme prejudice such as yours. If you have evidence of your assertions, however, I urge you to contact the authorities.
ReplyDeleteGretchen, he only wanted you to believe the lies about Warren Jeffs, not the Truth that Sam Barlow is a murder. I know; he killed my children. Then he writes up a lie with the state, to make the perfect cover up, and if you talk about it, they will kill you too. Sam Barlow and his Barlow friends. They are murders. And the person talking to you, was not there. I alone was, when they killed my babies; Sam Barlow and his friends.
ReplyDeleteand Sam Barlow tried to kill me, after he murdered my children. He will kill anyone who talks about his murders too. He can not kill me, he does not know who I am. I grew up here too, and more than half the men are liars and thieves. They destroy souls. And if you notice the anonymous speaker, defending the murdering Barlow's why he portrays a lie against Warren Jeffs; that is his suttle lie. He targets a man who is not guilty; and defends the murders who are. Sam Barlow is a murder.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the authorities; Sam Barlow paid them a lot, to keep his murders secret. Like as if they would help any one. Helamon Barlow molests children too; He is a cop. And the County? You must be joking; the men who murder pay them, and the attorneys. But, they are murders, none the less; Do you want to refer me to the media, next so they can cover it up, and slam dunk the people who report abuse? these men are professional murders. They have the authority in their pocket. And then there are the devils like you on the web pages, that tell people to only believe your lies and not the truth. You most likely are the murder Sam Barlow himself.
ReplyDeleteLet me be very specific; I reported abuse on a certain man. Every one called me a liar. They catered to this murder. A long time went by. The one girl who spoke about Sam Barlow and his murder ended up dead. She also reported his abuse. Sam Barlow tried to kill me, for reporting abuse, along with the other man. They think they are hid. Yet, I know and they know they killed my children. Sam Barlow is a murder. I do not know anything at all, about Parley Harker. Every one that ever had anything to do, with Sam Barlow knows he is a murder; even the Attorneys he hired. They just get paid. If you read a little farther, in Warren Jeffs words, he says that a man these cops, attack take these murders out. Why? not because he cares about children or women, any more than the rest of you do. It is a lie, that you do. I know you do not. I know. I asked for help and seen inside the U.S. concentration camps. I seen what happens to people who report Sam Barlow and his sons abuse. He takes them out, because they attack them. And he is more violent than they are. They kill women and children, with out batting an eye, these Barlow men. Helamon Barlow is a murder, just like his father. And you all know it. So, Sam Barlow's damn Barlow; kill me now, if you can. I am one of your victims. You tried to kill me. I lived. You are a murder and you and your sons will go to hell. You will pay for your abuse, and your murders. And the anonymous b" " that protects you, shall go to hell with you. Course he has not been attacked. he hates warren jeffs and worships the Barlow that murder. and if you defend these Barlow and hate warren jeffs you must be like them. Now, Helamon Murder Barlow, like his Father, Sam Barlow Murder, has the county, doing their dirty work; smiling and snickering of course, behind the backs of the women and children of course; souls they destroy, but wait until they attack the federal man. Then he will take them out. He is used to killing, this federal man, they attack. Warren Jeffs said that too; so look out your murders, your day is numbered and it is not going to be the women and children, you killed and tried to kill. It will be your fancied up government friend, that takes you murders out. And may God speed that day. May God speed the federal man, to come that they attack, and may he speedily take you murders out. You and your gossiping freaks, on the blog; who love a lie. And may God speedily destroy the concentration camps on American soil; and stop all murders; murders that you are. In every land; like Warren Jeffs said. We are going into the thousand years of peace. Warren Jeffs said God will stop all you murders. All of you. Even the one's who bombed the twin towers, and kill children in the hospitals. Who kill the boys, in the boys home, that I watched on the news. These murders were protected by the County, because the County is murders too. And your soldiers come home, with out limbs from the war, Americans started. You lost your boys, your husbands, and friends, for the lies of your country men. The big boys in the authority position. You want me to trust murders. Sam Barlow only wanted to come back and have it like it used to be, so him and his boys could kill again. Yes, the lies the Barlow's told. And anonymous; you must be the Barlow's guppy to so blatantly protect them. And of course I know you do not know, they never tired to kill you, right? You are not a woman, or a baby. That is who they kill. and of course you are not Parley Harker, ill in a hospital. They only kill people they think are weak. Weak, that no one cares about. But, wait until your day of going comes. You can have your place in hell, with the murders, you and Rod Parker defended. How about it, Rod Parker, how many women and children do you think you hurt, defending the Murder Sam Barlow? And we will look you in the eye and call you a murder too, in the Resurrection day.
ReplyDeleteWhy are some members of the FLDS moving to the Verde Valley? I see them here shopping at the local Walmart.
ReplyDeleteCould this be why Sam Barlow sign on his office had graphics of jawbone of a ass.
ReplyDeleteJudges Chapter 15
15 Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men. 16 Then Samson said, "With a donkey's jawbone I have made donkeys of them. With a donkey's jawbone I have killed a thousand men.
One Jdam would solve this problem
ReplyDeleteThe Colorado City Police are murders.
ReplyDeleteYes, you have described Sam Barlow, It will be like this; with the government, I have destroyed many souls. With the Judges and the paper work, I did after I kidnapped my victums, I have killed many. He did not use a jaw bone. He used the government and his slick mouth, to kill. Hidden in plain sight. His victums are many. Drownings, accidents over the hill, children with their heads bashed in, Yes he killed many. And they will be waiting to testify when he crosses over. In the land where liers and murders are not protected by government bully's. yes the colorado City Cops are murders and accessories to murder.
ReplyDeleteEpisode 1 - Flora Jessop: Escaping Evil: My Life in a Cult
ReplyDeleteBiography Channel
March 10th 10: Eastern 9:00 Central 8:00 Mountain 7:00 Pacific
www.biography.com/.../episode-1-flora-jessop-19542083630
and for all of you that use the government to destroy souls; what will you tell those you murdered. The Cooke family law suit is in place. Yes, the Judges are bigists that hate. They do the job they can in hate. They destroy many souls, and hate. They are the government devils Warren Jeffs said would fall. How, many will they kill before the Lord handles them? Big mighty men that destroy souls on a lie. But Warren Jeffs said that a Dederal Government man will kill them, for attacking him. Yes, Cookes do not do things to hurt others, but they take the harrassment and bashing all their lives. They were hated the day before they were born. They were beaten and hated, and are still hated. The City did not win anything. They are murders who can kill in a slick government way; and Judges are pigs. All Judges in this country are murders and pigs, and will soon be sent to hell and into disillusion; along with the Barlow dogs who have always tried to kill them. Yes, the Barlow dogs have many souls to account for. And the Bastard Cooke men who assisted them in destroying souls; like Richard Cooke, Jack Cooke. Sam Barlow was the top dog. If these men lost power to hurt, they cast them out.
ReplyDeleteWho cares what Flora Jessop says. I read it. Aunt Martha was a cruel heartless women, and they need to forgive.
ReplyDeleteOn the Law suit; Judges are not about truth. They are about who puts on the best show in their court. Who caters to their hormones the most, and the glory of their filth. they are the black Satin, Hitler dictators. they are the consentration camps of America. Who the hell are you all fooling? Pigs in a suit, that Kill Americans, in their Corupt pigs pens. All they are missing is the gas masks. And who cares about those they murdered and robbed? Americans are the Great Anti_Christ. Ready to go to hell, and into dissalusion. Are you ready? You murdering Devils; for the earth quake Warren Jeffs said would hit Pheonix; and stop your creepy murders and filth? Are you dogs ready for your dissalusion day? and the Creeps who kill in the creek; Are you and your creepy cops and pig judges ready for your disalusion day?
The people of Colorado City and Arizona have been trying to destroy Cooke's from before they were born. How to murder women and children in the creek and walk away free; be born a Cooke and know a Barlow. Barlow's can murder children and walk away free, because the cops protected them in it. Barlows can bash little baby's heads in and walk away free, because they are Barlow's and the Colorado City Cops protect them in it. Barlow's can torture and torment children and baby's and walk away free, in Colorado City, because cops protect them in it. Barlows can beat children half to death as a principle in the Colorado City School district and walk away free, because the Colorado City cops protected them in it. Barlows can beat their own children half to death and walk away free, because the Colorado City cops protected them in it. Barlows can deprive a man of water, because they hate him. Yes, they are great murders and liars; these City men, in the creek. How many souls do you think they destroyed? I know a few. How many souls do you suppose the colorado city cops have destroyed for a Murdering Barlow man? I know a few. I have met another who knows a few, and for all you cowards who dare not speak, and these murders are free to murder again; how many more did this barlow bastards murder? Sam Barlow was their leader. He is the one who goes as a front to get the government to lable the people they kill, before they kill them. The men who will sell out their family are the next dogs down the list. And the people who gossip are the final ax. Yes, you murders; your time on earth will never be forever. All men will cross over and you murders will not be hidden; then you will be cast to hell to pay the debt of the baby's you killed; the boys you tormented; the women you destroyed; the people you hurt. Ye, murders of the blackest die. Sam Barlow was the leader. Alvin Barlow is a murder. Dan Barlow is a murder. Stephan Barlow is a murder, and they actually think they are hid. Our cops will also pay the price for the souls they assisted these men in killing.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the men will go to the government and confess? In a world where murder is upheld? Lets begin the list; Alvin Barlow, Richard Cooke, Willard Barlow, Stephan Barlow, Shelly Cooke, Dan Barlow Jr. Charles Johnson, Thel Johnson, Ezera Draper, Sam Barlow, Dr. Linskey, Dr. Smith, Ruth Huth, Barbera Brown, Alecia Mackleprang, Hyrum Roundy, Henery Cooke, Gene Cooke, These are the childmollesters; Doug Cooke, I will continue the list later. I am tired just thinking about them. The government people are just the people who beleived the lies of the murders and child mollesters and assisted them in sabatage. Course I realize you all have to have your sycotic meds, but then you would not suport murders and child mollesters and harrass their victums if you did not ; and to the women in Byers Colorado that protected Shelly Cooke in walking free from the three children he mollested there, just because the court let him go did not make him not guilty; and because you protected him in it, you are also guilty of his wicked filth. Child mollester and protector of child mollester; just like the Colorado City cops. Pigs in a pig pen, with your pig judges.
ReplyDeleteoh, another one; Marvin Cooke, child mollester and child beater. murder of the inacent.
ReplyDeleteDear Sam Brower,
ReplyDeleteI just heard that Hyrum Roundy gave you a ticket. I am surprised. I did not know he had any balls. I did think he only picked on baby's and women and protected abusive men. I hope you are going to sue him now. I am ready too. I only was side stepping his attacks on me, but have made up my mind to engage. I will face the bastard. He is a thief, besides a protector of abuse. He is a bully and frankly the city is wasting water. They need sued for that. I am grateful that they have begun to attack the government people. That is one day that they are closer to their end. I know beyond a reasonable doubt that the attorneys for the City do not care if men murder women and children. But, when the little ball-less men, start attacking the government men; their time in city employment is over. And to all you Bastards that would defend men who protect the men who abuse women and children, that call themselves attorneys; the blood of my children reek upon your hands. All you government Bastards that destroy women and children these men in the creek hire you to kill, rob and cheat. Your time is coming. Your fiends from hell. Did the city have a victory, or did the ball-less Hyrum Roundy rob another woman? After the men did murder her children and beat her up, and slam her? What hypocritical bastards. I really thought what I was told was true, about the government being murders, until I found out the men in the creek hired the government to sabotage, murder and destroy. If you kill me for the lies and sabotage; more power to you murders. There will be one more, waiting for you fiends to cross over.
I hope you sue Hyrum Roundy for attacking you Sam Brower. I had to post this publicly because you charge a dollar to receive a message on face book. One things is certain; Bastards are Bastards. And when Bastards start attacking someone besides little baby's and women in the creek; other bigger government men take the Bastards down. They are not as satisfied to die, like the women and children that the men killed, are.
Dear Hyrum Roundy,
I certainly did not know you had balls. I wonder who you borrowed yours from. Did you get your pair, after you castrated your dog? I did think you only protected men who murdered children, and abused women. I will ask Sam Brower to loan you a pair, when you are done with your piss and vinegar. No wonder you had to run over the dog, last week on the sidewalk. You needed balls. Just in case you do not know it; Stolen balls will not give you courage. I hope Sam Brower sues you, and protects the dogs in our Community.
Post below was posted on FLDS TX blog. I suppose this is the reference to Ruth's mentioning running over a dog. The post is long and will be posted in two pieces.
ReplyDeleteI’m not sure if this is the proper forum for this but I know that a lot of people from Colorado City/ Hildale read this blog.
Yesterday, 2/20/13, around 4 or 5 pm., my neighbor’s non-flds children were with their little dog (which was loose with them) down by the dairy at the corner of Juniper and Arizona Ave.. One was in kindergarten and one was a bit older. A man in a white, double cab ford pickup with a utility bed, tried to run the little dog down, right in front of the children.
The older boy was screaming at the driver to please not run over his dog, but the driver just looked at him, laughed and pressed on. The little dog jumped up on the sidewalk, desperately trying to get away, but the driver of the truck followed and jumped his truck up on the sidewalk as well, then successfully crushed the little dog, right in front of the little kindergarten boy and his brother.
The young boy and his older brother are still trying to get over the trauma of having to watch their little dog’s brains get all squished out, right in front of them.
This all happened at a blind corner, and with all the abnormally tall fences in this town now, the chance of a wreck is greatly exacerbated. If children on bikes had been coming down the hill to be with their brothers, the driver speeding on the sidewalk, with his attention intent on trying to kill the dog, might never have had enough time to swerve or stop and a nasty wreck could have happened.
The older one of the two gave the Mohave County Police the description of the vehicle and said that the driver then drove over to the construction project, on the other side of the dairy by the hi-way, and parked. I’ve heard it is the new town fire house that they are building there.
This is a small town and there can’t be that many white pickups with utility beds around here that would park at that construction site. We can catch them if we work together.
To be continued in next post.....
Continued post
ReplyDeleteAlso, on 12/6/12, just after dark, my daughter and her friend were late getting the horses home, and were only 3 blocks away, when someone in a white pickup, with abnormally bright lights, sped up and charged at my daughter’s friend’s horse.
They came out of Harold Black’s yard on West Edson Ave.. I hope that it was only their intention to try and frighten the horse and get it to run away with her or buck her off. That is a common occurrence that happens in this town if you are a non-flds resident.
The reality is, that in their misguided ambition to scare the young non-flds girl (it is easy to tell the difference because she wasn’t wearing a dress), they were not paying attention to their driving and nearly hit my daughter with their truck. She was following behind her friend on another horse. The driver then sped away from the scene; it may have been an extended or stretch cab white truck. Obviously it happened very unexpectedly and fast.
The young girls then made it the rest of the way down the block and were waiting under the streetlight to safely cross the road at the corner of Richard and Edson. My daughter had her puppy following them and it started out into the road alone.
Someone coming the other way, in an older model, midsized, grayish car, sped up, swerved and tried to run the puppy down. The puppy panicked and raced completely across the road and up on the shoulder of the opposite road, with the car following closely on its heels. The puppy was terrified and frantically yelping as he was run down by the car, right in front of the girls eyes.
If anyone has any knowledge about any of these crimes, they can call the Mohave County Sheriffs Office at 1-800- 526-1911.
If any flds members read this blog…..Last week, someone tried to run a non-flds driven vehicle off the road with their vehicle. They were then chased down by the parties who were run off the road and ended up having a heart to heart talk with them and their parents.
Charges were not pressed this time, but the young flds mans excuse that they are “just bored around here”, is not an excuse for the sometimes dangerous B.S. that is constantly going on around here involving the flds and the non-flds citizens of our community.
Last Thursday, I had a hard time feeding my horses because of the hail of rocks, boulders and coal being thrown at me by the neighbors. That very morning, while I was stopped at a stop sign, someone in a white mini-van swerved hard at me and almost hit my truck while honking incessantly, then they swerved back to their lane of traffic.
Charges are going to start being pressed.
Isaac Wyler
Ruling of Utah Supreme Court today.
ReplyDeleteSnow et al v. Hon. Lindberg
http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/supopin/Snow1315031213.pdf
We hold that the UEP and the Reformed Trust were not the same client. Therefore, there was no attorney-client relationship between SCM and the Reformed Trust.
As a result, the district court erred when it disqualified SCM from representing Movants and
ordered SCM to disgorge privileged attorney-client information to the Special Fiduciary of the Reformed Trust.
None of you know who post, unless they put their name to it. I will tell you what I think. The people in Colorado City and Hildale Utah have overlooked crime for so long, that they most likely think running a dog and a mans children down to be normal. I mean, after all Sam Barlow hired Rod Parker to cover up his murders. Why would men like that care about a dog and a child being ran over. And as far as the dogs being killed that has gone on all my life. Men used to try to run my animals down. They put my horse to sleep, why I was gone. That is what the cops did to me. I say again. Hyrum Roundy was the kind of man who would do that. He would beat a woman up for the man, and defend the man in molesting children. Why, would it be so strange that after forty seven years some one would care? Just because the county has finally after all these years decided to treat the people here as people, what makes you think murders would quit being murders? I mean after all they have good protectors, these murders do. We have no normal court here, so we have to post here. All we have is a bought judge for a bitch that is so prejudiced that she would sell her own son out to the devil. Why do you think the cops would steal your dogs body parts? do you think their bought bitch judge would need them. She does not need them. She has a heart of stone, like the bastards that killed my children. And why would a bitch like her, need balls; she has the bastard cops. Do you think the C.C. cops do not know who does these things? You are living in a dream world if you believe that they did not hire the people who do these things. Do you honestly think the excuse of men, that walk around this city with their badges on their pance; care about you? do you think you will get the information to convict them? You all live in a bigger dream world than I thought. Sam Barlow was a murder. Helamon Barlow is a child molester and a murder. Who do you think would kill your children and dog? some cute little lady down the road? dream on. And as far as the Judge ruling on the land. It was not their land. They had no authority to make a ruling. The land was owned by another. One you all hate. Your hatred does not excuse the stealing of the land. Nor, does the hatred of the cops, excuse them trying to kill you and your dog. And as far as the attorneys that protect these murdering bastards, they are also murdering bastards. And do not assume you know who speaks, when you do not.
ReplyDeleteAnd if every man was honest here, half the men in this community would go turn themselves in for molesting children. But, they can not look the people they abused in the eye. They can sit in court and with their friends and tell their lies, but they can not look the ones they hurt in the eyes. They are murders and they know it. Bastards like Barbera Brown may not know it. But she does know she is a prejudice bought bitch. That much she has proven. So, good luck in catching murders protected by a bought bitch. Protected by hired thieves and liars calling themselves attorneys. Yes, Sam Barlow was important to these murders. He held the attorneys in his hands and they were paid too. Thus, Rodney Parker also is an accomplice to murder. Now, I know that I will be attacked again for having an opinion; but murders they are. and reporting their abuse will get you no where, they will just kill you. If they know who reported it. And Hyrum Roundy would not think twice about lieing to a judge after he killed your dog and daughter. After all, you are not in the church. And he has his crowd of dogs, just like Sam Barlow did. Him and his hired theifing attorneys, that protect child molesters and murders.
Make my day, Issac; press charges against these murders who go out and try to run women down who are not in their church. Press charges against the cops who protect men in murdering women and children, who they do not like. Start with that Barlow man, who was married to Flora Mae's sister. He is the one who runs over people with full police protection. Haven Barlow. Lets clean up the city; but then again you all let Sam Barlow murder your women and children; why discriminate when it comes to others who try the same thing and it is your children. go over and see if Barbera Brown will stop her plundering murdering cops. And the filthy murdering men, they protected. They will kill you too, if you try. And they write up the report, so the County will protect them, those that pay the bill to murder.
ReplyDeleteIs this for real? Or is this just some kind of gag site about the FLDS.
ReplyDeleteHas to be fake... it's way too bizarre.
Elias Franco
Most comments on this site are by a woman who is well-known in the original flds area. She was born and raised flds. She is very courageous and has things to say which are sometimes definitely worth hearing. Other times she gets on a repetitious and almost delusional track, so it's hard for most people to continue trying to have a calm conversation with her. She has suffered wrongs, as many who are flds have suffered, and she has gone back and forth in loyalty to warren jeffs. This is very understandable, considering how information-deprived flds are, as is ordered by warren. People who are not flds need to grasp that all flds are conditioned extremely thoroughly from birth to revere and not question flds leadership, ESPECIALLY taught to never question whoever is "prophet." This affects everything they think and do, every day. Anyway, this born-and-raised flds person I am referring to, that blogs very frequently on this site, is somewhat intellectually-challenged and emotionally scarred as a result of her flds upbringing, and probably has some inherited problems (flds has a pretty high proportion of inherited problems due to close intermarriage practices.) She tries very hard to express her thoughts and feelings, and of course she has that right. She and many others know of terrible things that have happened in the lawless and backward flds areas of Hildale Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona. It makes for lots of very emotional attempts to get justice and mental relief. I don't think most flds will ever get either one. They have been raised in one of the most emotionally damaging groups I have ever heard of, and there is and has been much criminal activity within the cult for many years.
DeleteShe makes some very serious allegations.
DeleteTell me, are all of Hilldale and Colorado City flds? Mostly? Large part?
Do non flds have any local or county power? Have outside authorities ever come in and investigate said charges. This woman names names. Prominent names, I gathered from light research.
I am very fascinated by all this. I am looking forward to that special about Flora Jessop.
I heard that flds children have been put on a bean and water only diet... have you heard of this? Again, this is all very bizarre to me. My interest is purely educational. But I am trying to get an authentic feel of what is really going on in this community.
Also... is the Texas complex still thriving. I read mixed reports concerning it. Any info about it? Thanks
Eli Franco
Mr. Franco,
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http://www.childbrides.org/news.html
Unbelievable. How this continues to happen is just incredible. And the recent vote on HB 4628 is equally shocking. Sure it passed, but the 7 who voted against it seem to be in cahoots with the local FLDS. It's obvious to me as an outsider.
DeleteDoris Goodale seems to be leading the cover up attempts from the Arizona house floor. Why? She's not even Mormon, let alone FLDS.
According to Rep Goodwin and Rep Pierce from Mesa, HB 4628 is an over reach and is aimed at specifically Colorado City. They also claimed that accusations like the ones above are no longer a concern because its all "past history". Why would anyone take this approach rather than say something like "too much government" or some standard GOP anti-government stance. "This is past history" is not a reason to forgo investigations... at least not in my book. Hell - we're still looking for Nazis.
Of course, this blog says otherwise. It's not all in the past. And it looks like election fraud is alive and well in Colorado city with some candidates getting 100% of the vote in some races. We don't hear about it because it looks like the fraud was contained to local races with little or no national implications.
But it seems to me that as long as flds members are elected to various positions in that area.. and they continue to make nice with people like Goodwin (still don't understand her position... maybe you can tell me something about it) and Pierce, they are going to continue getting away with whatever they want.
Again, Goodwin is a mystery to me. I don't get her position at all.
Eli Franco
Escaping Evil My Life In a Cult
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Flora Jessop was born at the bottom of an oppressive hierarchy established by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the FLDS. Growing up in Colorado City, Arizona, she suffered greatly at the hands of her father. A torment of sexual, physical, and psychological abuse. As she grows, she begins to speak out against these injustices, but at a cost. Under the constant scrutiny of her family and a group of violent men nicknamed "The God Squad," Flora eventually attempts a daring midnight escape--only to be discovered and returned to Colorado City, this time under the watchful eye of her sadistic aunt Lydia. After several more years of torment and abuse, Flora eventually gains her freedom through the most unlikely of chance events.
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Hard to wrap my head around all this. One thing about Eldorado: Attorney General Abbot stated that seizure does not mean eviction. Not sure how that will play out later.
ReplyDeleteAnd since the place is so closed off, how do we know there are still people there?
Also, if they are still there, do you think any of them are trying to escape? My understanding is that group in Texas is the creme de la creme, with regard to loyalty to Jeffs and thus the people there would be as fundamental as can be.
People tell me things like polygamy-rape and forced marriage don't happen in America. Clearly and sadly, they are wrong.
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And people that abuse are protected by the Colorado City Police Department, why those that speak out are slammed, in a lie. Helamon Mollests children. Johnathon did drugs.
ReplyDeleteFred Barlow mollested underage girls in the police department. the badges covered up their crimes and protected men in abusing children.
ReplyDeleteyes, they are all covering up their crimes. Of course it is easy for them to say it is in the past, and the men scream at the women to forget the past too. of course so Doris Goodall can get her paycheck. and the men have more girls to abuse.
ReplyDeleteThis is how I see it. These men who murder women and children have to have the government to cover up, and they have to have the children to abuse. Now, the cops are so thick in the garbage, that they protect people in abuse, with no evidence. Their husband said, or the family is harassing the woman to death, because they would not submit to the Priesthood head, who is beating them up and tormenting them and the children. The children are punished and punished and punished, and soon to be obedient they are assisting the man in abusing the woman too. And the cycle starts over. That is the sadness of it. And they have to make the woman look stupid to cover up their lies.
ReplyDeleteFeds Former FLDS spokesman cant have Warren Jeffs Escalade The ...A former follower and spokesman for Warren Jeffs is trying to seize the imprisoned FLDS prophet's SUV, but the government won't turn it over.
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Willam R Jessop and Kristina B. Jessop have a Federal Tax Lien in the amount of $55,449.49 for 1040, 2006 back taxes.
Warren S. Jeffs and Annette Jeffs have a Federal Tax Lien in the amount of $77,370.00 for 1040, 2003 back taxes.
Maybe the Feds should ask Willie and Warren to pay their back taxes. Ehh?
Yes, clearly and saddly America assisted Sam Barlow in his cover up of the sodomy society. How many more of you " " are there out there, that abused women and children and covered it up? I have ten more names to add to the list. But, you should confess your own sins to the Lord and go to your judgment. Ye, feinds of the pit.
ReplyDeleteand spoken like a true liar that you are; who owes the tax? Did Bruce Wisen steal the U.E.P. and if it was his as you all claim why is he not paying the tax? Oh, I am glad I am not you in the resurrection day, with your enjoyment of others suffering for your lies.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is written, " as they hung Jesus on the cross, they mocked him and spit on him." so it is with you, as you crucify your Lord again; for as you have done to the least of these, so have you done it unto him. Where are these theives who told me that Warren Jeffs would be shot in three years and the land stolen and sold, and every one here would have to find somewhere else to live. And how will you excuse your filth and lies to God in the day of Judgment?
except this is how Sam Barlow and his sodomy society told it to me; Tell us who your next leader will be so we can kill him. so, it has nothing to do with the mans name. and you part his cloak as the jews did Jesus's cloak. And if you murder him, Ye feinds of the eternal pit, Jesus will still rule and you shall go to hell. God can not be stopped. and your eternal fate in hell has been set. You murders who would kill for a lie, when you are the ones who are guilty. Why did you not choose life and happiness? You thieves who say the government rules and uphold a man that steals. Yet it is written who the land belongs too. Did Wisen just get a settlement to pay for the land he stole? Gee, when the Bishop Fred Jessop was here the tax was always paid; so a thief takes the land and the tax is thrown in the face of those Sam Barlow and his sodomy society would have killed. Yes, you murders will have a lot to pay for; You murders of the eternal pit.
ReplyDeleteWilly Jessop is simply a Judas, who sold his birthright, and would crucify his lord, and you are the crowd that would have released Barbabas, so you could hang an inacent man. Why the Hell is the tax not paid; you devils who steal, rob and plunder. Where in America can you steal mans land, legally. And you think because you are professional Sam Barlow, sodomy society that God does not hear, nor see; and you will always be free to torture? wait a bit. No man lives forever and your fate is sealed. You murders who protected Sam BArlow in his sodomy society. mock on, your chair is waiting in hell.
ReplyDeleteAnd just in case you murders and thieves do not understand hell, I shall tell it to you. Hell is a condition of the mind. It is a knowledge of your own sins, as you stand before God. Then you have your minds open. There will be no others to speak. A record is kept perfectly and you are your own judge; for your sins eat at you forever, and in the Resurrection day when you see that you can not have eternal life, and will have to go into the second death, and you know that your judgment is just, then there is weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth; for you murdered and plundered and raided your probation time away; and are stuck in hell. And the War has begun. Why did you choose death? what sorrow you will reap. Why did you choose death and murder and stealing? Why did you not walk with God and live in peace all the day long?
ReplyDeleteSo, Sam Barlow's childmolesting society went very deep. Cameras to watch the cops beat up woman and lie and cheat, why they protect the men in molesting children. But, I was down in Hurricane Utah the other day. There are a lot of cameras there. I wonder if they are there for Sam Barlow's child molesting society to keep track of girls too.
ReplyDeletethank You for that confession, you perverted person. I know you all claim to believe that to disobey is death to you, but People did distort religion. Obedience to God is what you was supposed to obey; not Sam Barlow and his Child Molesting society. How many more confessions will it take to get the filth from this community. Helamon Barlow is a child Molester. That is one reason that the child Molesters are protected. Lets have you all confess to the attorney General, and save the girls. I know that you think stalking them is fun and lieing and molesting, but eventually you are caught and go to hell and dissolution. Why wait until death to go pay for your filth. Go now!
ReplyDeleteRe: These comments about various people who did many wrongs within flds: Have you faced what kind of person Joseph Smith was? He introduced idea of saving one's soul by participating in "plural marriage." This is where "fundamentalist" inequality between males and females flows from- Smith's twisted early mormon teachings. It's just a short step from that, to the way thousands of girls have been conditioned from birth within these super-strict, enforced-behavior polygamy societies that dot the landscape of our spread-out, hard-to-police US west. Polygamists were able to thrive in Utah, as nobody else during wagon train days really wanted that land at that time. They could get away with their lawless practices for awhile. They'd been chased out of one area back east after another because of the immorality they taught. Their practices were destructive of families and social standards. Polygamy has never been legal in any US colonies, or any US state, BECAUSE it was known to be immoral and hurtful. Something heathens were prone to, from the old world, particularly from the unChristianized areas of the old world. Even in spite of the fact that slavery was unfortunately not abolished sooner (if mechanization had happened sooner, slavery would have died out quickly)- Yet polygamy was NEVER tolerated if found out, and was cause for outrage. Utah was not to be given statehood until these practices were stopped, but they never fully complied,keeping it in hiding in places too hard to police. The real reason it continues today is not because of men! It is WOMEN who continue to participate in it, allowing it, allowing themselves to be brainwashed because they will not study for themselves. There is not one line or one verse in any part of the Bible where God ordained or commanded anything except monogamy. No matter how hard someone studies the Bible, they will never find God commanded a man to have more than one wife at a time. Yes, polygamy was practiced, but NEVER COMMANDED by God. That idea came from Joseph Smith, who just didn't want to live within his AMERICAN marriage vows to Emma. Smith was born and raised American, so was bound by our laws here, not the law somewhere else on earth, and not just because he decided inside his head that God commanded something which God never did. That's all there is to all of this, and that's all that it has ever been, and all it will ever be. Women all over the western US are being brow-beaten with mormon "fundamentalist" garbage simply because they refuse to study the Bible for themselves without the mormon history veil of lies draped over everything they think. All these problems with fundamentalist mormonism can be traced very easily back to the foundations of this belief system- this so-called "mormonism." Did you know that even the term mormonism does not have a clear link with anything in particular that has any historical respectability? "Mormo" was a god of death, an idol from some obscure occult practices, and Joseph Smith and his friends just wanted to make money, so the Book of Mormon was thrown together for that purpose- to sell copies and make money. Smith was very much into Freemasonry, and he knew the Bible well enough to borrow chunks of it to mix in with names and places which he and friends made up out of their heads, to make a book sounding sort of like the Bible, in order to reel in people who were curious about some ideas on the native Americans that were popular at that time(but false.) All this "fundamentalist" abuse of women and children has come straight from the teachings of Smith's fantasies of the 1830's. You will never see much improvement from within a group that stubbornly refuses to face its own roots once and for all. Those roots need to be abandoned.
ReplyDeleteThe real reason it continues today is not because of men! It is WOMEN who continue to participate in it, allowing it, allowing themselves to be brainwashed because they will not study for themselves.
ReplyDeleteRight On! Gretchen!!!
It is written that those upon this continent are UN-believers and the grossest sinners ever to have inhabited the States. I do not supose I could expect you to believe or understand what would save your soul. You do not even believe in the basic of American; restricting religious freedom. And have you ever considered that you are brain washed and in a tiny dot in your head? Preach your garbage some where else. It was bigoted people like you that murdered a man for his believes. And his blood is upon you.
ReplyDeleteNo, dear, I am not bigoted. It is you that still will not face the truth about the evil man, Joseph Smith, who lived a hypocritical and debauched life, and taught others to do the same. He drank alcohol often, he was a constant womanizer, and he approved of dishonest money schemes. He had cheating, trickery, and lying schemes going on at any given time, to convince people of his "prophecy" ability. He alienated many people who actually followed him and believed in him for awhile, in addition to the ones who kept believing in him, denying what they could see right in front of their eyes, things that he was doing that they once believed were wrong before they were mesmerized by him. He tried to halt the spread of the truth about his collection of "wives" by having the printing press destroyed which published a report about his many affairs. In some of his writings and remarks which have been found, Smith even claimed to be better than Jesus, did you know that? Didn't you know Smith made outrageous statements condemning ALL of the churches of his day? teaching that they were all tools of the devil? Yet at the same time, he borrowed heavily from their ideas to create his "new religion." I stand by every word I wrote in my above comment. Many people have done meticulous research on Smith, Brigham Young, and all the other early mormon leaders whose writings are fully available for research to anyone who wants to put in the time. These men in the 1800's led many people astray, and the very incomplete information which is still fed to mormons today is allowing that deception to go on and on. The Bible was the final word on morality in America, and Smith tried to change that, to justify his filthy life. The early mormons created community-wide anger time after time in the eastern and midwestern US until they ended up in the Salt Lake area. This was because they taught and did things directly the opposite of what most Americans felt was moral and decent. I stand by every word of my above remarks. You and those in these polygamist groups that have never known freedom to study as you need to, because of the way you were raised, and because you are afraid to face the truth, are the ones who refuse to see this simple truth. Yes, we have religious freedom her, and that is an extremely valuable and precious thing, setting our nation apart from the majority of nations that have ever existed. Unfortunately, not all religious PRACTICES can or should be protected here in the US, IF they are in violation of other laws being enforced that are designed to protect the innocent and vulnerable. One can believe anything one wants to, but one simply cannot go ahead and commit crimes against others and then call it protected religious practice. Any and all manner of incredibly bad behaviors would result if ALL "religious practices" were permitted that people would start laying claim to. As far as your remarks trying to say people like me are responsible for Joseph Smith's murder, I am pretty amazed that you say such things. The man committed outrageous deeds of immorality and vice, and some of his own neighbors finally put an end to his outrages. That was in the 1840's. This is 2013, and so much has been published about a man and his followers that were around only 180 years ago,so it's easy to find the real things these people said and did, in their own words and documents. Joseph Smith was no martyr, dear. He received better treatment than he deserved, for ruining so many marriages and families, and for selling so many lies to the thousands who have been deceived by his ridiculous and immoral ideas. Many of the things he said and taught were outright blasphemy against the teachings of the Bible. You are simply one of the many thoroughly brainwashed people who has been raised to revere a man who was actually one of the most immoral people of his time. You still think he is a hero because you refuse to read anything but approved fundamentalist mormon materials, I guess.
ReplyDeleteI never even read your long rant. I see why long rants go un-read.
ReplyDeleteI read it. It was very good inforamation
DeleteHere is a message to Barbara Brown; Like my family you only listened to the lies, of people who protected abuse all my life, people who wanted me dead, so that they would not be caught in molesting children. I know you will come up in the Resurrection as an accomplice to murder.
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http://www.katiecouric.com/on-the-show/2013/04/15/escaping-religion/
I am not sure why every one blames religion for what creepy child molesters do. That has nothing to do with religion. I do realize that not one place in religion teaches that it is part of the religion to molest. I do how-ever agree that only in short creek can a man molest his children daily, and every one acts as if it did not happen. Jack, Lynn, Richard, Doug, Marvin, Ross, Edwin, Henery, Gene Cooke, Dan, Dan Jr. Joe, Sam, Sam Jr. Willard, Alvin, Helamon, Carson Barlow, Joe Jessop and who else? I do know other names. Only the people who do not molest children are protected in c.c.
ReplyDeleteyou mean the murders who call themselves judges and jury s actually claim to honor their own garbage?
ReplyDeletei did mean to say that those who do not molest children are persecuted half to death for reporting and talking about this abuse, and the men that do molest children, walk around as if nothing happened.
ReplyDeleteWretched has a pretty wretched view of the Bible and of Christ.
ReplyDeleteDear Willard Barlow, Shelly Cooke and Richard Cooke, you sure never lied when you said this people hated me. Shelly, Remember, when you told my Mother that I just needed a friend? I know you was just checking her out to see if she cared that you cheated me. She never. You know that day you tried to rape me, and I screamed at you and ran home? She only slapped me. She slapped me and called Sam Barlow the cop, to lecture me. you knew it. It must make you feel real big to know you could take advantage of some one that every one hated.
ReplyDeleteAnd Willard Barlow, not one soul here in this community would have cared if you would have murdered me, just like you said. You was right. I bet you are feeling real big now, that you could abuse my baby's and walk away free. You must have been some kind of a God to them; or else it was just that they hated me. They still worship you here. Even though you was asked to leave. I bet you are just celibrating and celibrating that you was loved so much, and could kill and no one knew or cared.
And Richard Cooke, you was also loved more than anything. I bet you feel mighty big, being able to pick on someone every one hated. The three of you was right. I was hated. And I am still hated. That must make you feel good to know you could do to me what you did. Not one soul on earth would have helped me when you three was trying to kill me; that should make you really celebrate.
And Nate, why did you all protect my Father and hate me? Nate, my brother, never come to my house again. I do not want to see you. You was right, there was no love here.
ReplyDeleteThis is a public message to my family; I never want to see you again. I never want to speak to you again. I am not your sister. I would rather be dead than have you speak to me ever again.
ReplyDeleteThis is a public message to Barbara Brown; you must be some kind of hero to the child molesters you protected. You and your cop friends who hated me more than life. Now, that you do not have the county cops to protect these murders, who will they hire to kill me now?
ReplyDeleteThe joke is on you though, Richard Cooke, Marvin Cooke, Shelly Cooke and Willard Barlow; I was a no soul to my Mother and family, but she was someone. You should have just stuck to killing me, and not picked on her and you would still have your pedistles and children to molest. I was a no soul to them, but she was someone. You picked on the wrong person. Your no soul was not important, but she was. now, you are alone with your lies and the people who love you in your lies, but I was a no soul. That should make you feel big; right. I mean it really took a lot of strength to destroy the life of someone every soul on earth hated, and little baby's. But pick on my Mommy dearest and you are out of there. So I am laughing at you murders. Mommy dearest was a person to them, and you are gone. I was a no soul, but Mommy dearest was the one and only.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever noticed Gretchen that it is people like you, who keep people like me in a prison and men like Sam barlow that murder children and protect murders in killing children in power. How would you feel if you watched a man murder your children and every one went around saying you was weird. I want you to know, that I am educated. I am actually above average and know more about the world and life than you ever will. And you use religion as an excuse to cover up for freaky murders like Sam Barlow. Sam Barlow has a long history of protecting child molesters and abusers and trashing the people who reported this abuse. So, please do not try to lable me. You have no Idea what you would do if men murdered your children right in front of you. Sam Barlow murdered other people besides my children. He will pay the price and murder has nothing to do with my religion. I do not know what you enclude in your religion, but murder, rape, and incest is not my idea of religion. So, please try to be open minded and get an education.
ReplyDeleteFound this plea on another blog.
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http://politicsrusprinciple.tumblr.com/image/48553993797
My name is David Bistline. My family has been FLDS for generations. I live in Colorado City, AZ and my wife and I were given to each other by Rulon Jeffs, the father of Warren Jeffs. Unlike many other marriages which resulted in heartache and sadness, for us it was a match made in heaven. She was 21. I was 27.
Today I am still the husband of one and only one angel wife, and the father of ten children, plus another baby on the way. But my beloved wife and children have been separated from me as a result of the commandments of the prophet who rules this community. I cried when they were taken away and thought I would never live through it. I have cried on many walks and many nights when I sit alone in my house staring into the emptiness. I love my family with every beat of heart and I want them and the whole world to know that.
I miss my wife Esther, the most beautiful woman on earth. I miss my little ones. I was blessed to be able to spend so much time with the children and bond with them. I think about my children and worry about them every day.
In this community, the holiest people do not break the law and go on the Internet. In this, I confess my sins. I made this blog so the word of David Bistline’s love for his wife Esther will spread like seeds blowing in the wind with the hopes that one of those seeds will find its way into Esther’s world and grow in her heart, wherever she is. I love her and my children with a fire in my heart and I love the Lord my God with all my heart too. These two things go together.
One more thing. No man will ever love my wife and my children like I do. No man can tell me that God does not want me to take care of my wife and children. I will do everything in my power to ensure their welfare and deliverance, and I will stop at nothing within the law to get my family back, to protect them and keep them safe. To raise them right and to fill their lives with joy.
So if you see Esther Bistline or any of my children, please tell them that their father loves them and is waiting for them to come home.
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This Picture was of Joseph when he was in the hospital getting his teeth fixed. He was trying to decide whether he was happy or sad. I hope that we can get back together soon. He comes running to me every time I visit with him. I know he misses me and I know he loves me very much. My beautiful wife comforting him. I love her very much and hope to be back with her soon.
For my honey Esther
Please read this and let your heart be softened to see the truth. God wants us to be together forever.
10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
I miss you dearly Esther. I love you so much. I miss and love all of my precious children Angela Lucille, David Lee Jr., Fredrick Dell, Edson Porter, Warren Leroy, William Daniel, Alvin Smith, Joseph Brigham, Kathleen Rose, Charlett Elaine, and Baby Boy Bistline.
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HOORAY FOR THE COOKES OF COLORADO CITY AZ
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Land Agreement Under Reformed FLDS United Effort Plan Trust Upheld
In Town of Colorado City v. United Effort Plan Trust, (D AZ, May 8. 2013), an Arizona federal district court gave a victory to the state of Utah in its efforts to reform the United Effort Plan Trust which holds property occupied by members of the polygamous Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). In this lawsuit, the twin towns of Colorado City, Arizona and Hildale, Utah (along with their water and electric companies) sought a declaratory judgment as to (1) whether transfers of property by the court-appointed special fiduciary are constitutional, and (2) whether the Cookes who occupy a parcel of land under a 2008 agreement with the special fiduciary or Robert Black who previously occupied it through a 1999 oral agreement under the unreformed trust have a legal right to it.
As to the constitutional issue, the court held that while the claim was not barred by res judicata or collateral estoppel (see prior posting), the towns are barred by the doctrine of laches from asserting their claims:
Plaintiffs waited years to assert that claim, during which hundreds of property transactions were completed in reliance on the validity of the reformed trust and Mr. Wisan’s actions
On the question of right to occupancy, the court ruled in favor of the Cookes. It focused on language in the trust at the time Black obtained his occupancy rights: "use of property owned by the United Effort Plan Trust is not and does not become a right or claim of anyone who may benefit in any way from the Trust." It also concluded that the statute of frauds precludes Black from asserting a claim of property rights and that Black has abandoned any rights he had in the property.
http://religionclause.blogspot.com/2013/05/land-agreement-under-reformed-flds.html
In that case, even Ronnie will benefit and no one can occupy any parcel of land here. So, the courts rule against their own rule. How interesting. who will they rob next?
DeleteRevelation or Self Fulfilling Prophecy.
ReplyDeleteThree lawsuits have been filed to take away our
lands and houses and monies, even to take away this land.
For me to step forth and testify in court of the doings of my father in administering the Celestial Law and the Lord having me do things, perform ordinances and work and perform corrections, for me to step forth and voice anything to our enemies would prove me the traitor against God.
The Lord has shown me that He is allowing this test to come upon the people to see what we love most and to see if we have the faith to draw from the heavens the gifts and blessings we need to
establish Zion, to have God and the angels among us, that we may have His protection here and on the other lands of refuge.
By me not answering the courts and not naming a lawyer, it will put us into default in the eyes of the judges and will bring a pressure where they will search for me. They have been searching for me to serve the legal documents, even to these very gates of this property.
And we can expect the loss of the United Effort Plan Trust, the dissolving of the Church organization by the courts, the freezing of our assets as a people and the Church, and the Lord will now see whether or not we love God, Priesthood, and the celestial Law above all, or if we love our property and our earthly blessings and conveniences most.
Many will accuse me of forsaking this people.
This will ultimately result in the driving of the faithful as the halfhearted will fear and compromise with the government and our enemies.
And this will result in persecution, suffering, and death. And our enemies will be guilty of shedding innocent blood.
I and the trustees are not forsaking the United Effort Plan Trust.
We are upholding it.
And whatever comes against us will be the result of those wicked people who are fighting us. This work will go on.
I tell you these things to awaken you to how vital this mission is, that these lands of refuge must be established as one for if we fall short again, we will affect the very lives of our loved ones and of the Priesthood people.
He is showing me that soon the assets and bank accounts of the Church will be frozen. We can't use them." You said, "The only
source and means we will have is from the people."
Warren Jeffs
September 2004
Attention FLDS Faithful...The Jeffs are stealing YOUR millions away to protect themselves, Mother Merilyn and Naomi.
Funny ALL Hildale taxes are paid.
DeleteOne million here and one million there, when no one is looking another million in Mother Merilyn Jeffs bank account.
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and as long as I have ever lived, the taxes have always been paid. I am a witness to murder too. yes, you murders have a lot to account for. Murders murders and murders.
ReplyDeleteI like the Idea of not answering them. For you all know the truth. The land was stollen and honest people oppressed. Yes, you all know the guilt of your own hands. I think I will speak less. for the children you murdered will tell the story to God and speak. Then there will be weeping and wailing and knashing of teeth, that you thought you could hide your murders from the Lord.
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