Wednesday, June 01, 2011

June 2011

Time to start a new thread.

So what's new?

  • Michael Emack's appeal to invalidate search warrants leading to the YFZ raid - when's the decision coming down?
  • Upcoming pretrials and jury trials for Wendell Nielsen and Warren Jeffs - who's next?
  • Stealing and burning books in Short Creek - why?
  • Competition for FLDS Corporation presidency - isn't it taking a long time to render that decision?
  • $2,000 required from faithful elders - bleeding the sheep as well as the beast?
  • What else?

  • Keeping Sweet?
  •  

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

Also on the Table is the UEP being appealed, and a ruling on that will bring a sea change to Shortcreek.

Its been a slippery ride with Warren, and it doesnt look like he took this in the right direction.

The handwriting is on the wall.

Anonymous said...

What do you think the changes will be? And spell it all right out, instead of the insinuations.

Anonymous said...

The warrants will stand because Law Enforcement acted in good faith. Imagine if every 911 call had to be investigated as a possible hoax before help was sent.

Warren will have to face all the evidence collected from the Red Cadillac - you can bet those warrants will stand too.

Sex trafficking overseas is getting more attention - the FLDS sex trade back and forth between US and Canada needs to be exposed also.

No more free ride on the "religious rights" ticket, these are nothing more than grown men seeking to have sex with little girls and get away with it.

Anonymous said...

You mean Richard Cooke and Willard Barlow will not be able to see any more women on the black market? sweet. I like that thought. But what did it have to do with Warren Jeffs? Because believe me, the girls sold; know who sold them. and what was done to them, why they was sold; and I will not forget! But what did it have to do with Warren Jeffs, except he was going to give me a wig, and money and insult me, with his britches? For a filthy man's lie that did sell me. Wait a bit. He will get free.

Anonymous said...

But you are wrong. Willard Barlow, Sam Barlow, Richard Cooke will always be able to sell Woman on the black market. That is what they do. If the women talk, they just have an accedint like Cathy Bistline, and their bowls are accidently stiched shut; then they seal the files. But what did these Murder's have to do with Warren JEffs. We all know who they are, and Warren Jeffs was not involved.

Anonymous said...

Is Richard Cooke the brother of Laurene Jessop?

Anonymous said...

ok, Shelly Cooke; confession number two. Jack Cooke confessed on National Telivision how his children were not quite as important as animals.
Your turn now; Tell the world, on National Telivision how you split your daughter's head open, when she was three weeks old. YOu owe it to her, before your life is over, and you owe it to me.
You told the story that she fell from a swing. No one seen her fall. Yet, her head did not begin to swell, until after Dr. Twiggs and Aunt Martha, looked at her. Aunt Martha did by her own confession lock a little abused girl in the closet, why her father that was abusing, not only Flora Mae, but Daphnee, Bertha, ect.....but Donna's head did not begin to swell, until after Dr. Twiggs had looked at her. He said to watch her.
Then you took her out behind the hospital building, and then took her to Dr. Twiggs and she was flown to pheonix, with a fratured head. C. N. N is waiting for your confession.
Val Jessop did real well, telling how he had two women in his bed. I should have stayed out of his confession. Let's here it. For you were caught, mollesting children in Denver Colorado.

Anonymous said...

Me and Donna owe this one to Warren Jeffs. For you all tried to blame him and me. Time for confession number two. We will get to Willard Barlow later, and he will confess how he also abused Donna Marie Cooke and Nathan Tyler Cooke.
For why I was being slammed in court for Lorin Cooke's lie, and Richard Cooke's little paper on me, Nathan Tyler Cooke Choked to death.
Although you did not actually kill him, you participated. Confession number two....Lets here it. you were already caught mollesting children in Denver after you walked free here, for our cops protected you.....so confess and make it easy. You owe this to the Lord, to me, and to my children.

Anonymous said...

For although you told all your lies and your stories, I was cleared with the state of Utah, and declared to have soul custody of my children. That was before Willard Barlow joined your gig. Richard Cooke was caught mollesting Gene and Afton Cooke's children and put out. You may as well confess. for it will unburden your soul, to confess and make amends before you die, and go to he place all murders go. You and Willard Barlow may as well confess, now as later. And Warren Jeffs had nothing to do with it. He was just surounded by you filthy liars. and I know who sold me. That will come later. as we win in court, and you lose. but then you already lost your soul. You did the day you wacked your daughter and fractured her head. She was three weeks old. only three weeks old. and you will confess. your sweet little ol' government lady's aint listening to your flattering lies, any more. Willard and Marvin took yours and Richards place. That is so they will not get caught. not, because they cared about you. Confess and make it easier on them. and you. Do not take all the Blame for Willard Barlow assisted.

Anonymous said...

confess, for you already told one truth. I was a virgin the day my MOmmy dearest, forced me to marry you, after I told you no for a year. Oh, how they loved the gossip that day and trashed me, for a sin I never committed. Coleen Cooke was the only one nice to me, after I married you. I ran away from you always. and one day, I made it. I hope I never see you again. I only want your confession number two; how you smacked your daughters head, and blamed me. and although the state of Utah, found no flaw in me, you and Willard Barlow continued your abuse. Did you do it together, or did you both just take advantage of me. After all, you and willard Barlow ran the finishing touch drywall company, and cheated every one, and still have bad checks drawn on the store.

Anonymous said...

You were a virgin? I heard that Richard molested you before you were married.

Anonymous said...

I never met Richard Cooke until I left Shelly Cooke. Richard Cooke is Laurene Jessop's Uncle.
And when I moved into Richard Cooke's house and seen him after the girls, I asked my Mother why that was in her house, after all we went through with Jack. She said the children brought it in. I think she just did not have any capability's of dealing with anything real. I feel baddly for my Mother; for she always lived this way. But other's kicked Richard Cooke out, to protect the children. For that I am grateful.

Anonymous said...

and I bet you heard a lot more than that. So, much for gossip and stories anyway. Maybe one day you will all get to the truth. but that is not what you all want is it?

Anonymous said...

Funny you say that, Ruth. I remember you sticking to Shelley like glue before you were married. Remember Squirrel Creek?

And more recently, you told me a different version of events. Maybe you should write it down and compare notes with yourself so that you can keep it straight.

BTW, Dick was your uncle as well as Laurene's? I don't believe that you hadn't met him before.

IMO, you REALLY need to see a therapist.

And still another thing: How will you feel if warren gets out of jail and gives your YOUNG daughter to some Jack*ss in "marraige." Even you have to admit that she's too young, yet it is highly probable to happen if he is released.

Anonymous said...

You really do appear to know a lot about me. What about squirrel canyon? You really think you know a lot about me don't you. Just like my Mother did. But she never cared. It does not matter; when Warren JEffs gets out of Jail, there will be no Jack*ss left. No worry. I do have to worry about What Willard done to her though. Which I doubt will be much; she is too much like her Mother. She know how to say no, and stick to it. Besides when she gets to be thirteen like I was, the day my Mother held the door for my Father why he beat me, so I could not get up again; he will be an old man, and she will have the streanth like I did, to keep saying no.
And I never told any one any other such thing. And I did not do anything with Dick at all, until I moved into his house for protection when Shelly Cooke was still trying to make me stay with him. I had barred my door with a chair. Sam Barlow and him had just taken me down to Kingman to slam me with his lies.....and who you protecting? Willard Barlow, Shelly Cooke, Richard Cooke, Sam Barlow, or your own quilt? Yes, you all think you know every thing about me, don't you
enough games! Shelly Cooke, we are ready for confession number two. You and Willard Barlow were partners in a business. You cheated every one in the area, or did they just give you everything so you would look pretty, why you abused Donna Marie Cooke? But you had to have cheated because you are still on the bad check list at the store. So, I am waiting; confession number two....
Willard Barlow, I will get to you later; how you tried to make me hang up Shelly's Photo's after you had me, so I could look more like a fool. Right now, I am working on Shelly's confessions, not yours.
Yes, I am waiting. Cathy Bistline said you threw a knife at her, and stalked her in the night, the day she walked in on you mollesting Donna.
She had an accident in the hospital right after. Some doctor oopsed and stitched her bowls shut.
How, convienent! What did you do to her? How much did you pay them to do it for you? or did they just do it willinly to protect you.
Well, you was caught in Colorado. Three chears for Colorado. One down, six to go.
And please, anonomose persosn; please do not try to be my mommy. You know nothing about me, or squirl canyon. I do. and it is too bad, I am not the law. for all you preditor's would have been convicted. No games now; you will all have to meet the Lord sometime and make your own confessions. It will be just you and him. Then you will be cast to hell, where murder's and rapest go.

Anonymous said...

and all my theripists could not fix Willard's lies. neither can you. Nice try though. Yes, I am surprised that is all the insult you could throw at me. Try agian; you that protect rapests. And my counslor helped me excape the preditor, as well as Rulon Jeffs did too. but all you gossipers, you assisted him. so did the state. Sam Barlow only helped me when Rulon Jeffs sent him. He had to look pretty. If he upset Rulon Jeffs, he would have lost his place in church, and walla, no more girls to sell. I have not forgotten. We will get to Sam Barlow after Shelly Cooke makes his confession of how he and Richard Cooke murdered Donna Marie Cooke. With Willard Barlow's assistance. They will have to confess to the Lord; why not confess now and save themselves time. and they need to confess to the attorney Generals too.

Anonymous said...

Now I get it, Jack Cooke raped you before marriage. he had to prepare his daughters for marriage according to Laurene.

Anonymous said...

I was not one that was defiled. I will tell you all right out. I was sixteen. It was my birthday. May twenty seven. Jack did tell me and another sister, what he was going to do to us. We were on a camping trip. We did not go to bed. At midnight he came up mad at us. I ran away from him. I hid in a ditch on the desert. My brothers had a fight with him. I had never seen them stand up to him before. STanley was going to kill him. I talked him out of it. We walked all night. He came home later, and Mother said she heard him say to just tell Mother such, and such. and after that the Utah cops came. Course it would be the out of town cops, our cops only protected Shelly and Willard in abuse.
I was taken into protective custody, because I did think I was going to go to hell forever, for telling him no. That is what I always was beat for. The answer was still no, and this time some one cared about me.
The cop that took me, said he felt sorry for me, because I would just be a mother here with children, and have no other opportunity.
Nope, wrong again. I was a virgin the day I was married.
And I wish I had never gotten married. I should have ran away from Mother and her men, at two. I tried. I just did not get very far.
and all you men, who think you can take advantage of me, think again.

and if you watched the tapes of me, and of Laurene, you will see two different stories.
When Jack was arrested they all lied. they all said he just bothered my Mothers girls not them. Well, he was a bother to society, but here on national telivision; laurene tells the rest of the story............But Jack touched me, and for that he spent five years in jail. For he learned that no ment no.
I am grateful that the state cops came. I think they let him out too soon, but that is that. I was not ever raped as a child. I was married at eighteen.
stupid as all get out, at eighteen, or I would have just kept running from Shelly too. He never really did much with me, anyhow. Just enough to make every one hate me. That was his plan. He said he went to my Mother and told her I needed assistance, and she beat me for that. After that, he just had sweet pickings. He got a no from me, and ran to Mother and Uncle Roy, for his yes. but I ain't as stupid now.

Anonymous said...

and believe me, I never want to see that horrid film of John Quinoniss again. It was bad enough knowing what I had to suffer as a child. But to see it all laid out, and my father admit, we were not even worth as much as an animal. And we suffered through that all that time. I do not feel bad towards Mother. She married him at fifteen. I heard what he did to her, to make her feel like she was worthless. IT was just the way it was. and Laurene should have talked to a theripist, not national telivision. crazy....But I think I would feel better if Shelly Cooke confessed on National telivision, what he did to Donna Marie Cooke. I think I would. I called the state too, you know. but I was invisible to them I guess. Just like I was as a child. and I feel like that is how I am sometimes now too. Just invisible; why Jack is a monument. I wish it had just all been forgotten. He is buried. Let his filth die too. With Willard's filth too. for he hurt me more than any man upon the earth. for he used my father as an excuse to abuse me again; rob me and lie and cheat; and make people think I am crazy for what never happened to me, with my Father. I never wanted to see my Father again. I got my desire. I do not like thinking of him. I was not even worth as much as an animal to him. He had his whiskey on the desk and his beer. It sat there all the time I grew up. Mother saved her food for him, why I was hungry. I was invisible to them. that is what It was the most.

Nope guess again.

Anonymous said...

And Mother is the one who hurt me the most. She is the one who carried the lies. I always knew to say no. She lived in her dream world. Just like she did with Richard Cooke too; pretending I was bad, and punishing me, for not submitting to him. And participating in Willards lies of me; as if him saying them made them true. She is so perfect at pretending lies and making me no one. That is what she did the best. Jack always told me he did not want me to be like my Mother. He was right. She was mean. She beat me so much. And I know why now. A horrid, horrible tale. I know why now. She was nothing to him, and he came in and tried to kiss me, for seventeen years. That is why my Mother's sat there in a row, and let Richard Cooke undress and throw his cloths in my face, as if I did not exist, and they did nothing; except hurt me, for not submitting to him. I hated kissed. I dodged him every day. every day for seventeen years. He was a fat slop then. Too old to chase a girl and throw her down. My Mother had to beat me, and force me to take his food to him. And I am glad she is not my judge. If only I could have ran away at two.
And my sisters, they knew what he was like. They could have picked up the phone and called the cops anytime; but they never. they never, they never. They just treat me like I am Willards lie, and Richard Cooke was their hero. And I can not stand the sight of them. for they knew and did nothing.
I love them. I carried them, like I was their mother, and they threw me in the garbage can for Richard cooke and Willard. for Richard Cooke and Willards lies. I was nothing to them, the day I was born and I am still nothing to them. But I am a human being to God.

Anonymous said...

Your Mother beat you with wire coat hangers didn't she? When I met her she seemed so gentle and sedate, however she deceives. Laurene in some ways takes after her Mother.

Anonymous said...

What do you think the changes will be? And spell it all right out, instead of the insinuations.

6/02/2011 11:55 AM

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Once the courts rule that the sheeple cant be abused by Jeffs any longer, and have the right to stay in their home regardless of his rants, they will actually grow a spine.

Lord knows, its about time!

Anonymous said...

Well, there have been people who have always sued and stayed in their homes. since the day I was born. Every one gradually quilt picking them to death. I suppose it will be that way for the rest of them too. But they will never be a group, like they were. For once they have declared there seperation, it is always that way.

Anonymous said...

But for the sake of Women and children like me, it would be nice to not get kicked out, and have the water company be able to assist my husband in starving me to death, just because he is a fancy lawyer; so I guess the things that happen are for the best. I am grateful for that. Gossip convicted me, the day I was born and because of the dishonest man, I married He kept it going to destroy me. But the Lord has a way of making things right. So, I would be glad if I am not kicked out. and I feel baddly at the ones who are. But it is not ever the same. The people in the church just act as if a person does not exist after they are put out, and nothing on earth can make them care. I am glad the Lord is the judge not me. for once they hate you, they hate you.

Anonymous said...

Its about time people hated Warren Jeffs, for what he has done to the people.

Some people dont care, No matter what happens they will suck up, and then there is everybody else who is fed up with the shenanigans.

Keep an extra $2,000 handy at all times!

Ya never know when he will need it!

Anonymous said...

I do not hate Warren JEffs. I love him, because every time these men, close in on me like wolfs he saves my life. And then they are angry and blame him, because I did not die. and the water company said they did not want to murder me. So, it was just my husband and his friends.

Anonymous said...

My Mother never had a wire coat hanger. That was Laurene's Mother. My Mother used a willow, a dipper, and my father used his belt. He only beat me once though. Mother beat me every day, until I ran away from her. Course she looks so sweet and darling. She is old now. and even if she had not beat me, she protected abusive men. and she neglegted me. But I am big now. It really does not matter anymore. She will go to meet the Lord, just like the rest of you, and there will be no lies then. and poor Willard Barlow will not be able to hide his lies. And Hyrum will not be able to save him. Neighther will these other murder's be hidden; for all is known with the Lord, and Sam Barlow is an old man now. He will soon be leaving to pay for his part in the murder's he participated in.

Anonymous said...

and the state will not have anymore sealed records, for Rod Parker to protect murders; for all is known to the Lord, and all will have to make an account.

Anonymous said...

and besides that, no one ever went right out in public and vidioed themselfs beating the child they never wanted. They are always just adorable in public. Course my Mother looked darling. She had her Dick, her Jack, Her Shelly, her Willard; and the retard was thrown out. Course my Mother was happy and sweet; but if anyone would have cared or fed me, or clothed me or assisted me, Mother and Johnathon would have ran right over and told them what a freak I was; except for the people who did assist me, before they talked to me. But what does it really matter anyhow. I only regret that I lived through Dick and Sam Barlow's attact, and Shelly Cooke and Willard Barlow will have to pay for the murder of Nathan Tyler Cooke and Donna Marie Cooke. Even if you all hate me, and torment me.

Anonymous said...

I DO hope you find some peace, Ruth. And that right soon. It sounds as if you suffer terribly. You know, there is another option... It's called forgiveness. Let the Lord handle these things that you can do nothing to change.

As the Prayer goes:

"God, give me the strength to change the things that I can change; To accept the things that I cannot change; And the wisdom to know the difference."

Anonymous said...

I find a great deal of peace talking about the abuse that happened to me, and my daughter. I know that it makes every one uncomfortable to know that they let murder's and rapests walk free, why they persicuted and hated me, and called me names; but they will have to live with the drama of their quilt. I have not suffered that much. And not one of you can undo a man's great wickedness. Now, can you. And I have always forgiven. Maybe you will find some peace. It is called being honest, and leave me alone.

Anonymous said...

Just because I do not hate Warren Jeffs, for protecting these abusive, horrible men, and slam him, is the reason that you slam me. I have a right to talk about the men who murdered Nathan Cooke and Donna Cooke. I have a right to compell them to confess. and sooner or later, they will have to tell the Lord about it. Now, won't they. Every man has his time run out; and there is something I can do about it. My father confessed on national telivision that he treated his children worse than an animal. Willard Barlow is a man like my father, and there is certianly something I can do. No matter how much you, his freinds that protected him, and the world hate me, I can hold my head up high, and know that he will have to confess his murder, sooner or later. And another thing I can do, is keep talking. So you all loved a murder, and his lies and hated me. But that does not make it right. and if you would all have been honest, you would have loved me, and arrested him. But I was thinking; people that protected Richard Cooke in his abuse, would certianly protect Willard Barlow in his too. So, weep, critazise me, hate me, persicute me, slaner me, tell me I can do nothing, kill me, like he did my children; it will not change the truth.

Anonymous said...

and the Lord has been handling things from the begining. He has kept a record of these murders and has a place prepared for Willard Barlow; when he comes up in the reserection, a murder. and his fate is sealed, and there is nothing I can do about that. I pity him; for what kind of a man would destroy his own kingdom and think no one will know. So, hate me if you choose, slander me, or curse me, or love me, it will not change what you can not change.

so to your own advice. May the Lord give you streanth to change what you can, and leave along what you know nothing about. and judge your own soul; for that is all you can do.

I am happy enough. I am going to be crowned a Goddess; a great queen. for those souls tormented and persicuted, get a greater glory; for they suffer it, and I forgave the murder the day he killed my daughter.

For I asked her, as she lay in Dick's little corner bedroom, about it. She was happy to go. For she went to great glory; why These men that murdered her, still have to pay the debt. She was excited to leave and go with the Lord. for her happiness I rejoice, and soon I will be with her, in great rejoicing, and my record of WillardS abuse, will not be mocked and scorned in heaven. so, judge me not, for that is something you can not change, or judge; for after all did you agree, that the Lord is the judge. Judge me not then.

Anonymous said...

and frankly, I have not tried to do anything about it. Murder's are murder's and Mother would not have protected Willard if she had not protected Richard Cooke, and she would not have protected Richard Cooke, if she had not protected Shelly Cooke and she would not have protected Shelly Cooke, if she had not protected Jack Cooke. So really who is the most miserable? those that protect preditor's, or those that stop them. I am not all that miserable. I rejoice that I did all I could to stop these filthy men. and if you all hate me, it is only because you are like them. That is how I see it. And believe me the Lords ways are just. They are perfect. They are sure; for no man can lie in the reserection day. For there deeds are rolled out like a scroll, and it is only them and the Lord; and all is recorded. So, in the end Willard Barlow will be cast into eternal damnation, why I am crowned a queen. So, why should I weep at that? and why should he. He chose to be a murder, and tell his wild stories, and Mother chose to defend preditor's. and all is recorded with the Lord. and I would not want that changed. I am enjoying my great glory tremendously. Both my children Willard Barlow tormented are in heaven. It must make him most miserable, to know he can not kill them again, or torment them. That is a comfort to me. and just because you all hate me, judge me, and persicute me, does not change truth.

Anonymous said...

even the insults hurled at me, are getting very intersting; I think I have heard it all, and they come up with a new one. I should write down all the isults.

I will call it the book of Insults thrown out by preditor's claiming to be fundamental Mormons.

Insult number one;
name calling
number two;
the invisible treatment
number three;
we are sad you are speaking and breathing
number four;
ha, ha, you can't do any thing about our abuse.

ect. ect. ect. this life is too short to waste, getting my feelings hurt, for people who would have rejoiced if Willard Barlow and Richard Cooke would have murdered me too. too short. life really is only a moment in time, and we are in the next world. I intend to make the most of it. Jesus was hung on the cross and murdered. So far, I have only been shot in the head, and called names. That is an interesting experience, for I did not know that the fundamental Mormons could come up with quite so uniqie of insults; but be as it may, I am not trying to change it. I am enjoying it. For they choose like every one else. Can you all honestly say, you have treated me like a human, or Jack's no one? that is a question for all of you. You do not have to tell me. You have your answer's.

Anonymous said...

See the day Donna died, Richard Cooke came in to take a photo of his deed. Alvin Barlow came and said if Richard Cooke was big enough to see her, he could stomic it too. The next day they had a party for Willard Barlow telling him what a hero he was. He did give a fancy speach, telling them Uncle Fred did tell him what to do. Me and my dead daughter sat in the same room; nobodys to them. Why they celibrated. No, I am not likly to forget. And frankly, Willard Barlow rejoices in sorrow; and she was very happy to go with the Lord. She was excited; for she would never see her tormenter's and abuser's again. I carry her same great joy. AT my death, I will never see these murder's agian. I will be in great glory with the Lord, and none of you can change that. I am going to be just like my daughter. For she smiled, like my sister Margene, when she left these murders...........and none of you can change that. so work on leaving judgment to the lord, and all.

Anonymous said...

Ruth in some ways i do understand how you are feeling.I to seem to get blamed for things that I have not done. I have always been judged by people in the world. this also includes my family. I relise that no one is perfect I know fou certian that I am not perfect. but it seems the more i try the more mader i get. i do try to leave it up to jesus but for me sometimes it is really hard. I have had people tell me that i am on drugs andi have never done anything like this every before. They never think of what they are doing to them own self. I also wish them good luck when they meet there maker. i am glad that you feel good about yourself it is very good to let feelings out. but for some reason i let my feelings out and peopel tell me that i am a negitive person oh well i let them believe what they want. have a good day.

Anonymous said...

well, I have found out that others see what they want to see, according to their own selves. Here is a saying;

I am silver, you are coal. What you see in me, is a reflection of your soul.

silver being the lining of a mirror, and coal, the begining of a dimand. how ever you spell it. and people only judge by what they see in themselves. Have a beautiful day.

feralfem said...

Hate is a monster that once harbored will rip you to pieces if you don't let it go. And bitterness is a smoldering fire that slowly burns you up from the inside out.

I love Warren as I love all living things. (Uhhh, except mosquitoes, fire ants and chiggers.) But love is different from like. For one thing, it has to do with unconditional.

I cannot condone the terrible damage he has done to all the bodies and souls he professes to love - as well as the damage to his religion. Sad.

Followers over 40 years old could understand the difference between BW versus AW if they ever find the will and way to analyze the contradictions. Read his dictations and weep.

Or not. Zealots will always find a way to explain away the hypocrisy of their idols. The irony is that where he accuses his people of idolatry, he has set himself up as the idol. "Leave those idols alone. I am the idol, the only idol with whom you have to do."

I wonder if in the greater scheme of things, his life has about as much meaning as a chigger's. It could have been so different.

Truthfully, I cannot judge; but I am free to think and express my thoughts. Karma can be a bitch sometimes. He believes he has god's protective hand on his shoulder but there's no denying Lady Justice's is on the other. I'm comfortable with that.

Namaste

Anonymous said...

Lolly, do you still want that rocking chair or should I sell it?
I will respect your decision.

Anonymous said...

What does AW and BW mean?

feralfem said...

BW = Before Warren
AW = After Warren

Anonymous said...

BM=Before Mormons

Anonymous said...

Lolly needs her rocking chair. Val is the one who died you know. She only went back to him, because she thought he was being nice to me, after Marie and her ran away from him. Funny hu? both his wives leave him, and then she runs back, because she could not stand to see him happy a little bit. But her worry was vain, for there was nothing between us me and Val. Poor Flora, she helped her, like you all did, and then she ran from Flora too. I do not blame her. She did not want to put the poor man in jail. but he would have her. and then when she went back, they blamed Flora for What Laurene did. Just like you all blame me, for what these creepy men did. Who cares now any how. Lets see if Laurene can get to heaven in her rocking chair; with all her friends she would have put behind bars, if I had not told her they were her best friends and would she participate in having them in jail. then they turned on me, and would have put me in jail; but they failed.
So, really they are just like Flora Mae, and Gary Engles. but they have begun to lose. With Uncle Warren telling them that their crowd they spent five years, making hate me, was going to be destroyed by the Lord; poor, poor guys! What ever will they do with out the people they hired to kill me? But none of them would do it for them. Poor, Poor, Poor people.

by all means, I vote, Lolly gets her rocking chair. She will need it.

Anonymous said...

And I admire dear Lolly's, courage. She told the truth on National Telivision; and so did her dear daddy. Sweet day that was for me. humiliating as ever, but truth none the less. Poor, Poor Laurene; yes, give her her rocking chair; she did what my poor Mommy dearest could not do. She told the world the truth and so did he. About this girl no one wanted, who was an it to them. Who told her daddy no for seventeen years, why the dear little darlings quivered in fear; who they all hated, for she maybe was the only one with the guts to say no, and take a whipping for it; why mommy dearest whipped her "it" too. poor mommy! but she was his "it" before me; so give them both the rocking chair;;;;; poor mommy dearest.......

confession number two is waiting to be heard. Yes, C.N.N, and the world are waiting for confession number two....Shelly your turn; tell how you smashed your daughter's head, and you and Willard Barlow protected her abuser's and walked free.........I have time...Time is my friend...and in the end; your filthy record will be opened, and I will be singing forever and ever and ever; why you and him dwell in your miserable hell; for you murdered her......and no one can undo your horrid deed........You will pay the debt, for what you two did.

Anonymous said...

And do not forget, how I was called names for the longest time, and how certain people lied to a judge about me; to keep the truth from being heard. But from the old man's mouth it did spew.

Time for number two...We have six to go; but my daddy did not speak about his "it" until he was old.

So, mock me if you can, but confession number two will come, and then number three, until the six men who abused my daughter are cast into hell, where they belong.

and if they kill me for talking; so be it....It is still recorded in heaven, and they will still be thrust to hell, where they belong.

Time is my great friend; and no persicution can be greater, than Uncle Warren's people, for their gossip. Why these murder's walked free.

So, believe me; time is my great friend; and in heaven you will not get away with the lies quite as easy.

Anonymous said...

Ruth, tell your sister that I forgive her for aborting our child
on a deliberate basis. When I first found out, I was hurt because we had planned on having a child of our own. Instead she murdered it and that hurt. Now I practice forgiveness.

Anonymous said...

I have no sisters that are murder's. That I know, and I will believe nothing else. For if she has, she will never again see the LOrds face. and I do not believe you at all. My sisters love children. They would not harm them.

Anonymous said...

Ruth, you do have a knack for creating your own reality. Keep on keeping on! Love ya.

Anonymous said...

Your sister and I had planned on a child and we were both happy when the dream came true. But when she decided to return to the FLDS, she decided that the child would not be appropriate for her admission and aborted it. The only child I would have had in my life was flushed down the toilet. Can you imagine how I have felt over these years?

Anonymous said...

I can imagine how you felt in your extreme dream world. I also know why it was so easy for Richard Cooke to do what he did after meeting you all out there. I think if anyone was a scummier bum, it was the filth that picked me up, after Richard Cooke dropped me off, and you quite frankly, was the filthy scum that picked her up too, and I do not believe that she ever had a baby with you. she would have disinigrated the second you touched her, and she is still alive. what scum would touch us; only the scum that walk Richard Cooke's lies. so quit talking to me. I am praying that one day I will wake up, and all you filthy scum will have been swallowed in an earthquake with all your lies and filth.....Please do not ever speak to me again.

and frankly my sister's have never been happy since the day they opened their eyes and seen the choice of filthy scum, we would have had to choose, and believe me with a choice; not Richard Cookes lies, we never would have chosen to be walking homeless in the streets of America, to be taken advantage of by every filthy scum that walked the earth; now would we have.

bbgae said...

Anonymous 6/20/2011 11:19 PM:

That is so many levels of wrong what that girl did to you. Even with as messed up as the FLDS are they do have some sense of right and wrong. She shouldn't have murdered your unborn child to return for them. They would never have taken her back if they'd know she did that. But that is probably exactly the reason why she did it. She would have to lie about ever having sex in order to go back and if they'd known she was pregnant, they would never have let her back. They really are anti- abortion. They are so set against it they forbid birth control because they are uneducated and think it is a form of abortion.
How many years ago was this?

Anonymous said...

This was about six years ago.

Anonymous said...

ain't you insane, telling all that. You used bubble gum to fix a wall for her. She bailed you out of your filthy scum house; and all you can do to repay her is your filthy lies. My sister would not kill. She wanted another child. She wanted her husband to love her. She wanted to be home. She wanted this people to love her. Such a thing was not possible with them. Richard Cooke and his friends were all that mattered to them. If your baby died, she did not do this on purpose. I am not certain she let you touch her. I looked in your eyes when she was with you, and did get a feeling you was the one who threw that girl over the edge of the grand canyon. They found one shoe on top and the other on the bottom with her body. I knew for certain, when I walked across the destert, that Richard Cooke would be waiting there, with his murder friends to throw me over. But today, with our government raiding and pointing guns at children, I am not certain, that they did not hire you to throw me over the edge of the grand canyon too. I seen you in Flag before she met you. If anyone killed anyone, it was you.....and go look in the mirror if you do not beleive me. IT shows in the eyes.

mtscottflowers said...

Ruth, i pray that you will be able to tell your story to the world outside of fdls you have suffered from the abuse from your mother, and it sounds like every man you have ever met. Parents, god's say's are put on the earth to protect and love their young. It seems that you get this. Learning to say NO was a very right and unque thing you did in the way of life you were born into. It sounds as though you have a mind of your own Praise God! And that you understand that people will be judged by God. I think that if warren jeffs didn't tell these men it was ok to abuse women and they listen to him like you say they do why does he let them? You tell people to leave you alone, i for one wish i could hold you in my arms and wish i could take away some of the pain God has created a wonderful human in you and i really would love for you to share this with other women who are on the outside looking in. Tobiann63@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

It is interesting your comments. One of my brothers came and asked me if it was really such a rare thing for anyone to be nice to me here. I did tell him yes. Once in awhile someone is kind to me, and I am very surprised. And I am humiliated too, for we were taught better. I have forgiven my Mother. I never want to see her again, but I have forgiven her.

Anonymous said...

What happens to your babies that are born that are not "just right"? Who takes care of them? Are they put in a home or taken care of by their families? And, what happens to the older women some that are not able to reproduce any more? Are they just thrown out?