Thursday, January 31, 2008

Colorado City Library needs books

A couple years ago on Warrens Decree the Colorado City Public Library was shut down and the books burned as a symbol of coming out of the world and not partaking of her evils.

This library was situated in the middle of town with a small park around it. It was where everyone gathered in the fateful day in 53 when the government raided the town. It is also where the historic marker was put by the Barlow Brothers in commemoration of that Raid, that sparked Warrens wrath and kicked all of them out of town. Since 2003, there has been no library in town.

Time to change the way things are done.

75 comments:

  1. Colorado City library needs books


    By ABBIE GRIPMAN
    Arizona Daily Sun
    Friday, January 25, 2008


    The library in Colorado City needs donations to rebuild its collection.

    Colorado City and the neighboring city of Hildale, Utah, are the nucleus of a large population of members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is known its polygamous marriages and for blocking its members' access to education and information.



    To help bring knowledge to the area, the donation of books and educational materials (National Geographic, news magazines and more) can be sent to Stefanie Colgrove, P.O. Box 1935, Hildale, Utah, 84784, or in care of Charlotte at the Colorado City Post Office, Colorado City, AZ 86021, or they can be brought to Mary Black at Flagstaff's main post office on Postal Boulevard. Donations can also be mailed cheaply by using the post office's Media Mail service.

    "This is a most worthy cause as these women and children have had no access to books (or television or the Internet) for a long time, if ever, and education is the ticket to freedom," Black said. "I have been (to Colorado City) several times on postal business and found the women to be extremely isolated and curious about the outside world."

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  2. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0120library.html

    Another article about it.

    I can promise you if Stephanie Colgrove puts it in her house, nobody but her family will get to use it. It has to be a public building. I would like to know if the old library is UEP or Town. Cause if it is, lets use it. Nobody else is.

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  3. found the women to be extremely isolated and curious about the outside world."

    Wow what a statement! It's a lie but maybe it will help gather books. In that case it is OK

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  4. Did anyone ask Wisan if there was a location that could be used?

    Are you ready to pay the expenses involved, file a non profit status?

    You need someone to organized the volunteers if you use volunteers or pay a libarian.

    Usually a libraries are run by counties or cities.

    Maybe it could be organized under the UEP?

    You might have to have it out of Mrs. Colgroves home for now until you figure out the public part.

    It is going to take hard work and knowledge.

    The books are the easy part.

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  5. "To help bring knowledge to the area, the donation of books and educational materials (National Geographic, news magazines and more..."

    ...Playboy, Playgirl, novels, commercialization, and corruption, etc..."to help bring knowledge to the area"...And Adam knew his wife, and she begat Cain...yup, Holy Cain to raise cain, and anything to demolish the UEP, and then call it UEP: Unified Educational Playboys, sent by the LDS Church to wreak havoch and to destroy (Rev.11:18).

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  6. Street, please don't donate your Playboy magazine collection, I don't think it will be wanted.

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  7. Sorry, my pictures are of beautiful men and women in longjohns and glowing fine linen (Gen.41:42):

    "An Pharaoh took off his ring from off his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck".

    "Fine": Zaqaq: Purged, purified, and refined bodies or personages,
    to desire and to seek God (YFZ). Towb: Good, best, and favored, to call.

    "Linen": White, radiant threads, lines, and fields (flds) of Separation, set apart, hallowed, emptied, as in string-theory, to prepare them as angels, to oversee the energies and the elements of creation, stricken and thrown down to be raised up (FLDS). Service, sixth sense and dimension.

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  8. Linen, as lines in a book, and the elements of which a book is made (linen or papyrus). See, fine-linen is the finest of all the libraries in the world. It is the covering of the Holy Spirit, which bringeth to light all knowledge upon the earth, and through all eternity. It is the source of all knowledge and power, through a perfect faith, against all obstacles and diversions. It is the Power of God on the earth, and few are able to find such a treasure. It is the National Treasure. All other knowledge and power is weak and corrupt, and cannot stand.

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  9. For you information, the public school (El Capitan School) has a very nice library that is open to the public. They even have it open on Fridays when students are not on campus. Please feel welcome to take advantage of the wealth of information there.

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  10. Ahh, but is there a Book Of Mormon in there? Are the classics there, the classic sermons of the latest Prophets. See, a Friday fish-fry without the living word, is just a dead-fish, yes? But, you have plenty of paper to keep the fires going.

    I'm sure there might be one or two of you who beg to differ, the operative word being "beg". And, of course, I'll certainly take it under advisement, let you worship how, where, or what you may.

    I guess as long as you kiddies have "Dick and Jane", and a few racey photos to gawk at, most of you will be plumb happy. But I'm telling you, with too many plumbs you've got diarrhea. Then, you'll really need alot of paper from your library.

    Keep her squeeky clean, and you'll begin to see the light of day. The Four Standard Works are my Library. What, pray tell, is greater than God?


    Street

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  11. this is a worthy endever,however, those who love books will find them. those who burn books, or stand by without protest, while they are being burned, wont read them if they are given to them.

    uncaduff

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  12. Jan.31-Tx.CC Libr. BofM

    Ahh, but is there a Book Of Mormon in there? Are the classics there, the classic sermons of the latest Prophets. See, a Friday fish-fry without the living word, is just a dead-fish, yes? But, you have plenty of paper to keep the fires going.

    I'm sure there might be one or two of you who beg to differ, the operative word being "beg". And, of course, I'll certainly take it under advisement, let you worship how, where, or what you may.

    I guess as long as you kiddies have "Dick and Jane", and a few racey photos to gawk at, most of you will be plumb happy. But I'm telling you, with too many plumbs you've got diarrhea. Then, you'll really need alot of paper from your library.

    Keep her squeeky clean, and you'll begin to see the light of day. The Four Standard Works are my Library. What, pray tell, is greater than God?


    Street

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  13. Books to long underwear...no one else could make that transition and actually try and make sense of it.

    Street DON'T go to the library. You may actually learn something. Oh and yeah..so many libraries I know have PLAYBOY in them. NOT! Oh and a novel, please don't read any of those. How completely awful if you read books by some of the finest Authors that ever lived. PHEW! No. Don't do it. You may learn something about world history, great inventors...people like that.

    BAD BAD people that invented stuff and BAD people who wrote great novels.

    Wow...I must be a sinner. I'm reading a novel.

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  14. Helping bridge a religious divide
    Woman hoping to unite FLDS, ex-FLDS through new library


    By Ben Winslow
    Deseret Morning News
    February 1, 2008

    Colgrove's mother asked the fiduciary for the court-controlled United Effort Plan Trust to give her an old school building built by her father to serve as the library. The UEP Trust controls homes, businesses and property in these border communities. The courts took control in 2005 after allegations surfaced that Jeffs and other top FLDS leaders mismanaged it.

    Read the rest of the story.

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  15. Why, what a novel idea. This Three-In-One is my Novel (LSJ).

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  16. Anony-widdo-mouse said: How completely awful if you read books by some of the finest Authors that ever lived. PHEW! No. Don't do it. You may learn something about world history, great inventors...people like that.

    BAD BAD people that invented stuff and BAD people who wrote great novels.

    Wow...I must be a sinner. I'm reading a novel.
    2/01/2008 8:20 AM

    __________________________________

    Street's Wepwy:
    "Finest Authors", "Greatest People", "Great Novels",

    Do you see it, people? The ever so gentle (and violent) replacement of God with...with...well, with "the finest and the greatest", diminishing God to the background, and then to extinction, for is He not the finest and the greatest? Then you become extinct, for God judges the idol worshipper, anything that diminishes God and His Word.

    Do you see it, people? Do you see it?

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  17. You just as well set up another monument, plated with gold, and in the shape of a calf, and then dance gleefully around it, stark naked.

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  18. I loved the library when it was open before. I have always been a reader. I am glad to see the efforts to bring one back into town, but I do not think the people the books are meant to reach will ever see them. Uncaduff is right.

    However, I will be optimistic that if left alone from the FLDS influence for a few years the people who remain because they weren't faithful enough to be removed to one of the compounds will begin to trickle in discreetly.

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  19. Street you are going to be the best proof yet that there is no God, if he doesn't strike you with lightning.

    He couldn't possibly approve of the way you try to homogenize truth, lies and crap.

    Shut up and save your own butt.

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  20. Feb.1-Tx & Polyg. Library

    According to Deseret Mourning News, “Colgrove hatched (the idea to rebuild the library)”. Hatched? Hey, Hammon-eggs. She eventually wound up in Pahrump, Nevada. What! Where was that paw? Oh, never mind. You people enjoy your books.

    “Woman hoping to unite FLDS, ex-FLDS through new library”. I don’t think those within the FLDS will unite through gentile books. That’s just not Fundamentalist, nor is it Latter Day Saint. “Know ye not that friendship with the world is enmity with God”? (James 4:4). But, “We believe in worshipping God according to our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may”. So, enjoy your little building of books, to your heart’s content.

    Colgrove blames Jeffs for creating the divide, saying he broke apart families and cast others out of the faith (Mt. 10:34). "He took a lot away. He put the fear of God into people instead of the love of God," she said. "God doesn't want people to fear him. He wants people to love him."

    “But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him which…hath power to cast into hell” (Luke 12:5).

    “Dost thou not fear God, seeing thou art in the same condem-nation”? (Luke 23:40).

    “Then had the churches rest…walking in the fear of the Lord” (Act 9:31).

    “And the way of peace, they have not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes” (Romans 3:17).

    “Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of flesh and spirit” (the books and writings and doctrines of men), perfecting holiness in the fear of God”.

    See, I’m sure that what you meant wasn’t that “God doesn’t want people to fear him”, but rather, that God DOES want people to fear him. Am I correct? Do you see where people fall away, and thinking they are right? “Satan deceiveth the whole world” (Rev.12:9). The Bible-Belt communities know that this is true, the very Word of God.

    Hey, I like to hop in the sack and cuddle with a novel little thing every night, just as long as it's my Three-In-One book, or the Four Standard LDS Scriptures that I'm cuddling with. See, that makes me a GREAT lover, a lover of God, not some alley-cat. Let's see you make love to a book, by letting God make the love.


    Street

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  21. anon, 10:48. I think theres a possibility that God does have a "work" for street. if so it's to show the effects of subjecting oneself to too much priestly propaganda and rank superstition.
    uncaduff

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  22. No thats the point. Any delusional extrapolation of pretended usefulness would be an abusive destructive waste of intellectual energy. Please don't extent to him any such self-perpetuating ideas.

    He has already done his.... dooty.

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  23. Yes please maybe he could start filling potholes instead of creating them.

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  24. I stand rebuked.(:<
    uncaduff

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  25. street, you have aparently aroused somones ire, an anonymous blogger has asked me;
    (since this person believes that your antipithy is already aroused against me); to post this
    bit of poetery in said persons stead.










    An obnoxious blogger called Street
    with un-biblical reference replete
    incessantly screeds us
    and attempts to feed us
    his vast scatological treats.[/QUOTE]

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  26. Shut up and save your own butt.
    2/01/2008 10:48 AM

    It is God who shuts up, which then leaves you with no rain, no doctrine, no light (Deut.11:17)

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  27. Street
    Please go away

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  28. Ahh, away in a manger. You're all just too good to me. I keep trying to tell you, I ain't that good.

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  29. quietman, Uncle Lee passed away this morning.
    uncaduff

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  30. uncaduff

    what is you phone number?

    Uncle Lee's Daughter

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  31. 928-643-7156
    uncaduff

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  32. Burp! Oh my gracious! Pardon me.

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  33. Uncaduff, and all others who are mourning- my heart and prayers go out to you.

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  34. thank you bbgae
    uncaduff

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  35. REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL

    SPOTLIGHTS COLORADO CITY’S UNLIKELY BASKETBALL PROGRAM

    WHEN IT RETURNS FEB. 11, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO 131st edition debuts MONDAY, FEB. 11 (10:00 PM ET/PT), exclusively on HBO.

    *New School. For the residents of Colorado City, Ariz., the El Capitan High School basketball program signifies change in a community desperate for something new. For years, Colorado City has been infamous for the practice of polygamy and for being the home of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) and its recently imprisoned prophet, Warren Jeffs. Now, as the town looks to emerge from Jeffs’ shadow, its inhabitants see the El Capitan basketball program as a vehicle to introduce Colorado City to the outside world and dispel the myths surrounding the community’s residents, many of whom have no link to the FLDS. Correspondent Andrea Kremer reports this intriguing story.

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  36. Wow!
    Finaly they will enter the world of sports!

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  37. Or, as the Water Boy Bobby Buchet' says: M-m-m-m-my momma says foosball is the D-D-D-D-D-D DEVIL.

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  38. In this political season, when politicians try to tell you which books to read and which forms of entertainment to entertain, you have substantial pickings from either nostril. Propriety would dictate that you pick a candidate with more fluidity than the coagulation of a booger.

    That's what politicians become when they presume to tell people what their preferred law is for churches and communities, and the private organization of families, matters that are between God and man and much more amenable to the public good.

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  39. did you hear that Warren got struck by lightning?
    it burned streets lips.

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  40. Warren gits outta jail, he and Street goes to the bar ta celebrate; after a few drinks, Warren decides it's time ta go. they goes out ta the car, an Warren tells Street ta watch while he checks th lights, sez I caint afford ta git pulled over an such.street gits behind th car an warren sez; the tail lights workin? Streetsez ya. Warren sez the break lights workin? street sez naw, but th tail lights got brighter. warren sez; the turen signals workin? Street sez ya, naw ya naw.....

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  41. Warren, Merril and Street are in the boat fishin, a little offshore. after a few beers, Warren
    says, “I gotta use the head” so he get’s outta the boat and walks across the water to the
    outhouse , compleates his work and walks back across the water and gets in the boat. few
    more beers and Merril says I gotta use the head, he get’s outta the boat and walks cross
    the water, compleate’s his mission and walks back cross the water and gets in the boat.
    Street says,”I must do as I see my priesthood fathers do, he steps outta the boat and sinks
    outta sight. warren and Merril sit there watching the bubbles come for a minuet, then
    Merril says “think we shouldda told im where the rocks are?

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  42. LOL. Yup, to the Bar of God to celebrate. Yah is Lord. Nah (or Noahh) is lamentation. Light comes and goes. There is light or darkness in books, and everywhere. "Darkness covers the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people" (Is.60:2, D&C 112:23).

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  43. Merril says “think we shouldda told im where the rocks are?
    2/08/2008 6:26 PM

    See! On the ROCK I shall build my church. More truth than you know.

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  44. but street, if ya don't know where that church is, ya sink and drown!
    (ya asked fer that un street)

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  45. 2/09/2008 8:28 AM

    Yah, but if I'm typing at this very moment, then I ain't drowned. I abound in life. Boing, boing, boing. See, true church. I walk on the waters and on the rock, which gives me life, because they told me where the rocks are, and the iron rod. Boing or Biynah is knowledge, to bind.

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  46. Boing, boing, boing. See, true church.

    I'm not at all surprised street.

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  47. Here's an old Statler Brother song.

    YOU’VE BEEN LIKE A MOTHER TO ME:
    made popular by the Statler Brothers (See and hear the song in Live Concert at this link):
    http://elfreebo.com/?module=SearchList&q=y...to+me&submit=go

    She's seen me through lots of troubles.
    She's stayed up nights so I could sleep.
    She's given me more than comfort.
    She's given me something I can keep.
    I love her, and I need her,
    And I want to be with her all the time.
    I'd fight just to keep her,
    And I'd die if I thought she wasn't mine.

    I love her every morning.
    Thank God for her every night.
    I worship the ground she stands on,
    And I stand on the ground she'll be alright.
    When you need me, you know I'll be there.
    'Cause you've always been there for me.
    America, God Knows I love you.
    'Cause you've been like a mother to me.
    America, we've been through troubles.
    And we'll make it again, just wait and see.
    America, God knows I love you.
    'Cause you've been like a mother to me.

    America, stand up and show it,
    That you're proud of the red, white, and blue.
    You love her, and you know it.
    'Cause she's been like a mother to you.

    (Crescendo): America….!
    ___________________________________

    This is how my FLDS church feels about Zion, the Land of America, yearning for the perfection of her land, her people, her books, everything, like all the prophets did, and yearning now for the New Jerusalem that will cover this land with perfection, from sea to sea. It is our inheritance, all its people who pollute not their heritage.

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  48. See and hear the above song in Live Concert At):
    http://elfreebo.com/?module=SearchList&q=y...to+me&submit=go

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  49. Oh Oh, I gave you the wrong link for that Statler Brothers Music Video. Sorry about that. This one works:

    http://elfreebo.com/?module=View&id=h7OpMwpSBOg

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  50. Everyone, I got a real kick out of all the jokes and things.

    Street, I'm a big fan of your posts.

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  51. Street,

    Are you allowed to listen to the Statler Brothers? I'm surprised you listen to such devil worshipping music. Shouldn't you only listen to Warren's voice and his hymns?

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  52. SBarlow: Thank you so very kindly. No greater compliment could be given (2/12/2008 3:23 PM)

    NonnyMouse (2/12/2008 3:27 PM). Stat-ler is Stat as in status, and brothers as in brotherhood, both of which are well-known hallmarks of the FLDS. So it fits, as well as the great patriotism of their country and gospel music. Patriotism or Patriarchy is also a great hallmark of the FLDS, as the world knows full well, the honoring of the Father. “There is none good but the Father”, saith the Lord (Mt.19:16), so all else is evil.

    Obviously, anything that is not good is evil, but the Father is in patriotic or gospel music. So yes, this is why we listen to the Prophet’s voice, for he’s the father, and a thousand times over, who saith that we accept all truth wherever it is found, and it is certainly found in gospel and patriotic music, is it not.

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  53. 2/10/2008 6:45 AM

    As for The Red, White, and Blue (G-K-C): The Trinity.

    RED: Adam or Edom, ruin, fermentation, consumed by the judgment of death. Left Temple

    WHITE: Enoch, ab-original, sheer, light, Crown.

    BLUE: Christ, or violet. The color obtained and dyed therewith, by violence unto the mercy of life. Right Temple.

    See, Patriotism or Patriarchy, The Father.

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  54. Street, have you ever heard of Lester "Roadhog" Moran?

    Eagerly awaiting your reply
    Ernie Cupp

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  55. Hey! I replied, butt the stupe-endous Admin didn't post it. I'll post it again tomorrow, like there's no tomorrow.

    Happy Birthday!

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  56. Here's a real fun song I like...

    "Valtz of zeh Aryan Nations"

    It'z zeh valtz of zeh aryan nations
    as carried on most of zeez stations
    ze idahos little creationz und mixed ulations are not from zeh baha-hahaha

    For zeh haf zer own army and ratzi.
    Zeh claim zat zey are not nazis
    But zehr hoping to God choo vill not zee
    Zat nazis are just vhat zeh ah-ha-hahaha

    For zeh vone zeh camp for survival for reazonz zeh take from zeh Bible und Jezus should zue zem for libel und zeh counzel shall be Rush Libaha-hahaha

    Ha-ha-hahaha hahahahaha-haha

    Zey dance zeh valtz and laderhosen (oo-hoo-oo!) purity zakes zey haf chozen to build bunkers und marry zehr cuzinz and zeh affectz are beginning to show-oh-oh-oh-oh

    For zehr brain zeemz to haf zome dizorder, vone not contained by state borderz az bull guidez haf told some reporterz zehrs more uff us here zan you know-ho-uh hummfertink ho-ho-ho-ho

    Ho-hohohohoho-ho-ho

    To zome paranoid geen pool delusion zhey've traded in zheyr conztitution for zeh final solution... und ve all know how zat vone goes, hos, hos, hos, hos!

    It'z zeh valtz of zeh aryan nations zo bevare all croationz und hatians even aclu haz lost patience, let'z give idaho back, i-dah-hoooooooooooooe!

    Even in bamps invading mein kampfs vhen my kampfs right next to your kamp!

    Zank you!

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  57. Ahh, zhe valze vace of ze Nayshun, zee? Are zhee? LOL. Zatz goot. Hail Hit-choooo. Bless me! Hell dotz hitchoo ifz vee dontz repent.

    Hey, they understand REPENT in plain English. Even in bamps invading mein kampfs vhen my kampfs right next to your kamp! Yes, they invaded and are. No closing your borders now, for hell dotz hitchoo.

    Zank you!
    2/14/2008 11:38 PM

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  58. Speaking of Libraries: Let’s just take that one expression: “Thank You”:

    LANGUAGE (1): Seven Heads in One: Seven Planes of the Ten sefirot, plus the hidden, equals Twelve. This is true of all Priesthood, of all language, and of all knowledge:

    “THANK YOU”:
    1. Enochian: Silence 2. Old Aramaic (Peshitta dialect, vs Paleo-Hebrew): Barak. 3. Adamic: Ephrath (Ephraim). 4. Hebraic: Toda. 5. Greek: Efcharisto. 6. German: Danke. 7. Chinese: Toa chie. 8.Hindi: Danyavad. 9. Spanish: Gracius (same language class as Italian: Grazie, and Latin: Gratias). 10. English: Thank You (the furthest from the source stream, and the most corrupt).

    Seven language classes, of the 490 dialects of Babel’s 70 tongues (70x7): Some of course are lost.
    http://www.elite.net/~runner/jennifers/thankyou.htm

    ‘Babel’ receives seven Globe nominations (not a fluke): Dec 14, 2006 ... The multinational ensemble drama “Babel” led Golden Globe contenders ... eligible only in the foreign-language category, not best picture. ...www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16202486

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  59. Linguistic Anthropology: Color Categories in Thought and Language. C. L Hardin ... seven stages of evolutionary emergence of 11 semantic univer- ...
    www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1525/aa.1999.101.3.657

    Language evolution: What linguists can contribute: Historical descent from a common ancestor with seven cervical vertebrae. ... categories. Among most linguists that have so far published on language ...
    linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0024384105000951

    Lengthy article on the evolution of language: http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/5/2/4.html

    Seven levels of meaning: M: Literal, Y: Metaphysical, Mm: Allegorical, T: Awakening, A: Exoteric, D: Mesoteric, Sh: Esoteric, K: Silence (Unified Field). LANGUAGE

    Introduction To Eden: http://edenics.homestead.com/articles_1.html

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  60. Thomas Vaughn Barlow age 47, will be spending 21 months in Federal Prison for threatening the IRS and other government official. He was sentence Thursday according to the news report.

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  61. And that has to do with the CC Library how? Just kidding. Oh, yah, with all that time on his hands, he can definitely get some good old Mormon reading done, so your comment is right on the mark.

    If I remember right, it wasn't his tax protests, but his threatening to bomb somebody. Yikes. The folly of youth, even at 47. He threatened the Feds, the Governor, the Attorney General…who else…all bearing the sword not in vain (Romans 13: 4).

    Even if they do take 50% of your earnings in taxes, through an agency that was created by fraud (www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy20.htm), “the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God, for rulers are not a terror to good works…for he is a minister of God to thee for good” (Romans 13:1-4). Let them take what they can, even steal it. Nothing is ours but God’s, and all shall turn for good to them who love the Lord (D&C 90:24, 105:40). It is only His place to put the oppressor in his place. Our experiences in this life are preordained for greater things.

    Phillipians 1:19: “For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer. 2:8: Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ.

    So study hard my friend, and get knowledge that counts. It is the law of God to sacrifice all things earthly.

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  62. Would that be Tom Barlow who used to be married to Fern and Terri?

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  63. Feb.17-Tx-CC Libr-Idols

    I clicked on the radio for a split second today, to get some news, a second too long mind you. They were talking about vanentines day “proposals” (I will not give it the credibility of upper-case). Just one question: “Proposals” to do what? When alley-cats get together, yah yah yah, that only means one thing: Rapor and Rapee, then the cat fight and a dead mouse or two. Nasty perverts! It is like courting a nasty book or magazine, idol CC Library style, because with that you have idoled your pure study and affection for God, who requires the whole heart and mind. I’ll stick with God’s proposal and the most sublime FLDS system of marriage. It is ideal. It is heavenly. It is salvation.

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  64. Yes bbgae, that is the same Tom Barlow

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  65. Why did Tom threaten the official. What happened? Just a disagreement on his taxes?

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  66. bbagae, I don't know the details, but Tom has been pretty unstable since Warren tore his family apart. Can you blame him?

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  67. No, I can't blame him. I don't even know why he lost them in the first place. He seemed to me like a decent guy.


    I don't think Arthur deserved to have his family taken away, either. I don't know anything about why with him. I don't expect an explanation about any of this.

    I thought these two men were some of the most decent men compared to their brothers.

    There are so many things that should not have happened, but did.

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  68. the pligs what need the books worst,can't read.

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  69. Of course they can read! They just won't.

    Or were you refering to the babies?

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  70. reason they wont is the prophet wont let em.

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  71. his thugs will boot the parents if the kids get caught being exposed to the things of the world.

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  72. "his thugs" are the ones who have always done his dirty work, so it don't matter if he's in jail.

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  73. Street,

    You have mentioned "The Trinity" several times. What exactly is the Trinity in your view? In Christianity it is the 3 persons of God: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost. Separate, yet one in the same...a mystery. Does the FLDS have the same interpretation of the Holy Trinity?

    Thanks,

    Amy

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  74. Re: Tom & Arthur

    It is precisely being a decent guy that gets you kicked out. You refuse to go along with something that's wrong or you go along with it but not enthusiastically enough or in advance they suspect that you won't go along with the plans.

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