FLDS Prophet Warren Jeffs may be serving life in prison, but his followers continue with their work on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas where the group's white limestone Temple towers over the town they are building. Polygamy, the practice of plural marriage, appears to be alive and well in the Lone Star State, despite laws to the contrary.
Thursday, March 01, 2012
STREET'S Posts - March 2012
This thread will provide a forum for Street to expound on his thoughts.
You are forewarned...
Enter at your own risk and enjoy your stay.
Ye alter, see? When you alter the truth, then everything else to you is an idol.
As for altars, they are commanded of God from time immemorial, altars of sacrifice, and then the marriage altar, see? All will agree that this is good.
Then again, they who thirst for blood will always be fantacising for altars for their cult, your American cult (ure) of daily blood sacrifice (mass murder) of little children, 4,000 daily, so far 50-million slain by your laws of blood sacrifice-idolatry, the worst blood-bath in the history of man, far worse than any Hitler or Herod, the abundant taking of life while accusing a prophet for the abundant giving of life.
There is your altar, your blood cult, your guilt, your own commission of capital crimes against humanity, which carries the death penalty.
You consider Warren and Lyle fools, and mock them, and this fulfills the prophecies:
"The days of visitation are come...The prophet is a fool; the spiritual man is mad for the multitude of thine iniquity and thy great hatred" (Hosea 9:7).
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise...the weak to confound the things which are mighty" (1 Cor.
Tis the similitude of Christ, delivered unto the gentiles and mocked (Luke 18:32). The saints are now mocked at the last time (Judce 18). And now, "The mocker shall be had in remembrance before the Lord, and calamity shall cover the mocker (D&C 45:50). "God is not mocked...for so shall ye reap" (Gal. 6:7).
I will continue blood atonement this evening, Part 1 (of 5 parts). The foregoing posts were an introduction.
Feb. 12, 06:06 am "I shall explain the beautiful and truthful Mormon doctrine of blood atonement, if you'd like":
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part I (At-One-Ment, to make one/won)
The doctrine of blood atonement is the ultimate doctrine of Christ, because it unifies the children of God, of Adam, to the eternity of the Gods, making them ONE radiant light in the cosmos, like any system of trillions and centillions of stars in one galaxy or universe, yet at a distance, it is but one star, for God is one. And all will agree, that is beautiful, is it not.
The eternal doctrine of blood atonement is also beautiful because it is all voluntary, no force or murder involved. It is done by God Himself, for if it is done by man, that is murder. It is by one's own desire and choice, whether it is the wicked rejecting the law of God by choice, and thus having to atone through acts of God, or the more righteous having committed a sin unto death, and asking God to allow him to atone for that, by actual command of God, not by anyone taking that law into his own hands. Thus, by the actual command of God was the willing sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham. But there was intercession, because he had no sin unto death to atone for, and innocent prophets who atone for a dispensation or a generation are quickly lifted up (Rev. 11:12).
So we can all see how beautiful it all is. Everytime you remove the ugliness, rebellion, and mockery against God from a nation, you enhance its beauty, see?
This article is a 5-part series, but I will keep each part brief and simple, so that even a child can understand it. I will begin this series by asserting that the final word and teaching to any generation is the Prophet of that generation. The Prophet Warren has taught many GREAT things on this topic, and on every crucial topic under the Sun, but ye would not. His revelations and dictations are most poetic and uplifting. But you nave to be looking for those gems, or else you never find them. All who look for iniquity are cut off by acts of God to atone for their sin, having rejected Christ (Isaiah 29:20), having rejected His own Word and Law on marriage at 12, to wit: Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:49, and the globally acknowledged law of the faithful Bar and Bat Mitzvah, which Christ "came not to destroy, but to fulfill" (Matt. 5:17).
So, having blinded yourselves by rejecting the light of Christ, the Lord turns the poetic and precise word of His Prophet into incoherent rambling idiosy for like minds, for idiosy is what you have sought for. So shall ye receive, even as ye seek (Matt. 7:7), and shall reap the whirlwind judgments, having sought for judgment (Is. 41:16; Jer. 23:19; 30:23), by your choice and desire, that ye might blood atone.
So here again, the Prophet will give the final Word to this generation.
"The days of visitation are come...The prophet is a fool; the spiritual man is mad for the multitude of thine iniquity and thy great hatred" (Hosea 9:7).
Street lets talk about Hosea.
This is a piece of Israel's (Ephraim) history where the priesthood turned into a sex cult. The priests where perverting and twisting the sacrifice of worship into a profit making venture.
'I AM' God forbids the worship of other gods and harlotry. Israels priests were having sexual contact with "temple" prostitutes.
Hosea is about Ephraim sin by practicing Canaanite rituals of sacrifice accompanied by ritual intercourse.
Hosea 4.17: Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.
Hosea 5.3: I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou commit whoredom, and Israel is defiled.
Hosea 5.9: Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.
Hosea 6.10: I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled.
Hosea 6.6: For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hosea 8.11: Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.
Hosea 9.3: They shall not dwell in the LORD's land; but Ephraim shall return to Egypt, and they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.
Hosea 9.16: Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.
Hosea 9.16: Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.
Hosea 11.12: Ephraim compasses me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet rules with God, and is faithful with the saints.
Round two of 2012's Whirlwind Judgments occurred today, just three days after round one. Now, according to the news reports, "a third of the nation is in devastation and heartbreak", with 100's of new tornadoes have struck today, as you continue to support the law of the land to kidnap, to commit genocide, and to abort or take life, and mock God and His right to create life according to the eternal law, from the purity of the source at puberty (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:49, etc...). This is only the tip of your Titanic iceberg of blood atonement. March is the slow month of tornado season, and already a third of the nation is in morning. April, May, and June are the deadliest, and yet you dare mock God, and say that we "persist to act like a fool?
Furthermore, the FLDS critics are now reported to be at each others' throats, setting the stage for Occupy Revolution and civil war, also prophecied of by this Prophet and other LDS prophets, more blood atonement, in lockstep with the world's political playbook: lordsofchaos.com.
The false accusations of the wicked against the FLDS Church are the retaliatory manifestations of the LDS FBI, LDS-influenced states, and other sordid apostates, being proven inferior, and thus the sensational heart and mind of the troubled, the unstable, unintelligent and criminal souls seeking to hide or diminish their own crimes by artificially criminalizing the stark contrast of the FLDS, which contrast drags their own blackness into the light.
So I take the beautiful and eternal doctrine of blood attonement as just one example of the sad, sensational, alarmist war-dance of savages. But all other criminal accusations against the FLDS are just as easilly proven wrong. You name the crime, and I will prove its true and proper place within a true and cultured society. Yes, individuals err, but they are quickly handled, as the world is now witnessing. So we'll start with this one, the crime or false accusation of murder, what you erroniously mistake for atonement in the present refined state of the FLDS, but is in fact murder within the Labaron clan, as it was among fringe Mormons from the mid 1830's to late 1850's, such as the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
Was the Massacre done by Mormons? The answer is yes. But "We believe that man will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression", or for anyone else's. Nearly all Americans believe that, and the law certainly holds to the doctrine. But that massacre was not atonement. That was murder. One is true and of the light, and the other is false and black as midnight. BIG difference, yes?
Will Bagley has researched and written extensively and convincingly on that massacre, in "Blood Of The Prophets". Also see: salamandersociety.com.../willbagley for a talk he gave to that society, giving more details that are not in the book. Equating the actual crimes of fringe and apostate Mormons to all Mormons is as wreckless and juvenile as equating Twiggie to Dolly Parton...Okay, bad example. It's as bad as equating the Mob to the Vienna Boys Choir, or Satan to Christ, because we all came to this earth, so guilt by association. How incredible and stupid is that?
The FLDS is a culture that loves man so much that they will correct them, rather than leave them in mortal and eternal danger, or kill them like much of the world is so willing to do. Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact. But it is also a fact that 99% of them would eventually apostatize, abandon Christ, and thus the full power of Christ's atonement would not be effectual to exalt, but only to resurrect to judgment day, which is a universal atonement enjoyed by all.
By the way, the purpose of a public forum is not to impose views, nor to restrain views of others, but to express views and to defend what you believe is correct. If that is "mixed up and creepy", what further use do you have of freedom?
Go ahead and tell us what exactly is mixed up or creepy, so we can have a fair and balanced discussion, and so everyone can see that you're not just blowing gas or toxic smoke. The truth can certainly sting.
As for agent orange, I flew helicopters in Nam. So we only saw it drop from a distance. But, I am affected by another agent orange, which is the correspondent color of law and scientific fact on the Tree of Life. Google "Tree of Life diagram", and you will see it at the bottom of the left column of creation, which is Boaz (1 Kings 7:21).
One caveat for the last paragraph of Part II: Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact, IF it wasn't self defense. We know from a number of records that the Arkansas group was heavilly armed, made actual mortal threats, and came directly ahead of Johnsons Army to destroy saint and sinner alike, and this even after the saints had just recently been mass murdered! So somebody had to defend the people. So that wouldn't be murder at all. Just defending your right to live. All will agree with that.
Yes, it was carried out by mortals, men with weaknesses, which is universal to us all. Even the LDS people who gave up their religion in order to be assimilated are striving to be good people. We must allow that opportunity. Not one of them were alive when the church unanimously compromized their faith for expediency and reward. We ALL came to this earth to work things out the best we can. This is why God has continued to give us life, until some of you absolutely reject life and choose something else.
I should give one caveat for the last paragraph of Part II: Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact, IF it wasn't self defense. We know from a number of records that the Arkansas group was heavilly armed, made actual mortal threats, and came directly ahead of Johnsons Army to destroy saint and sinner alike, and this even after the saints had just recently been mass murdered! So somebody had to defend the people. So that wouldn't be murder at all. Just defending your right to live. All will agree with that.
Yes, it was carried out by mortals, men with weaknesses, which is universal to us all. Even the LDS people who gave up their religion in order to be assimilated are striving to be good people. We must allow that opportunity. Not one of them were alive when the church unanimously compromized their faith for expediency and reward. We ALL came to this earth to work things out the best we can. This is why God has continued to give us life, until some of you absolutely reject life and choose something else.
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part III (The Atonement Process)
What exactly does atonement mean, and what does it accomplish, and how? What is the exact process?
I will attempt to give some light on the matter, if it is in me to give, and in you to receive, or no one can benefit. It is impossible for light and darkness to occupy the same space at the same time.
Its meaning is in the Word itself, both in Christ ("I Am the Word"), and in (the word) "Atonement": At-One-Ment, as I introduced in Part I. That is, to make us one spiritual Celestial body, Zion, or church, by spiritual union, from which spiritual realm we emanated as spirit. Most souls will take a very long time, and kalpas of time, because "Few there be that find it" (Matt. 7:14), being young spirits without spiritual union, but sowing to the body (Gal. 6:8). Only virgins will be redeemed, or atoned unto heavenly Celestial glory (Rev. 14:4), which is those who restrict ALL sexual relations, even (and especially) in conception, the law of God, of the Nazarene, the Nazarite, the temple-worker. These are "The Keepers", vs "The Seekers or the more profane membership.
So the meaning of atonement is in the Word. How about the process, and what it accomplishes? How exactly is atonement accomplished? In order to actually understand and accomplish the process and the journey, you need Order. You need a map with all the checkpoints, what are called Gates of Heaven, each one representing a dispensation, and each one presided over by only ONE MAN. Therefore, "Few there be that find it". The Tree of Life is that map (see Bible & BOM indexes).
Why is it called the Tree of Life? You need the why in order to use the map to atonement (i.e. to life), AND that one peculiar and rejected man at each gate or Sefirot, or you cannot ascend the Tree, the ten dimensions of space. So, it is called the Tree of Life because it is the vast hierarchy of all life, of all things in existence, within the ten chambers of light, which is the process of creation in descent, and of redemptive atonement in the ascent (Gen. 28:12; John 1:51).
There are ten steps, or a minion circle (prayer), of creation: Monad, Dyad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Ennead, and Decad. There's alot more, to infinity, but this shows you the bare structure of the creations, and what is in store for those who make it past the first Gate (Warren Jeffs).
Then, there are ten steps, or a minion circle, of redemption, which are the ten sefirit and ALL of the corresponding elements and angelic orders: Malchut, Yesod, Hod, Netzach, Tiferet, Gevurah, Chesed, Binah, Chokmah, and Keter (the embryonic Sun and ten planets within us all), plus a hidden and yet unformed chamber, Daat or perfect knowledge, which is the internal arc of testimony and covenant. This is the unformed asteroid belt within us all. Then each of these 11 chambers of (gospel) light is connected by at least 3 paths of light (minimum of 3 mothers or wives for each one, for a masonic total of 33 degrees.
The top chamber of light (Elohim, Grace, Holy Spirit, etc.) represents our crown. The next two are the Father and the Son (Jehovah or Christ, and Michael or Adam: Life Force or the body's electrical chi, and Life Form or the body's magnetism, body meaning all physical element.
You needed to know all this (and there is infinitely more) in order to come to some grasp of exactly how atonement is accomplished, to wit: Christ being the controller of the life-force or chi chamber, the process of atonement is the process of replacement of our breath and blood (pranayama etc.) with those spirit elements, attributes, and authorities (one man at a time per chamber), in spiritual union, so that the gross flesh becomes light and fluid, in order to flow into one light and one body, like walking through walls, "I in the Father, and the Father in me" (Jonn 14:10): At-One-Ment, see. I would give much more detail, but my maximum word limit is up.
Street you are a hoot still using Kabalah and a science fiction novel "off the wall" terms describing Warren Jeffs. Very appropriate and funny.
There are ten steps, or a minion circle (prayer), of creation: Monad, Dyad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Ennead, and Decad. There's alot more, to infinity, but this shows you the bare structure of the creations, and what is in store for those who make it past the first Gate (Warren Jeffs).
The meaning of all those crazy Helmsman terms...finally! www.billbaldwin.us/.../Inner%20Gen%20Terms%20FRAME.htm ... divided into ten months: Unad, Diad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Nonad, and Decad, each with 40 days, grouped into four, ten-day weeks.
Bill Baldwin is author of the 2011, five-star Science Fiction novel The Turning Tide. He published The Enigma Strategy, a World-War-II novel in December, 2008. Bill is also author of The Helmsman (1985/2003), Galactic Convoy (1987/2003), The Trophy (1990/2007), The Mercenaries (1991/2008), The Defenders (1992), The Siege (1994), Canby's Legion (1995), and The Defiance (October 1996): Science Fiction novels of the Space Opera genre - originally published by Warner-Aspect.
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part IV Dimensions of atonement (parables)
All scripture, and indeed all creation, exist in seven heavenly dimensions of meaning and of substance (parables), plus three hellish dimensions, as even faith is a substance just above the ether (Heb. 11:1). The ascending degrees or refinements of substance are earth, water, fire, air, ether, thought (or faith), light, and spirit, from which elements all things are and were created. These are eight elements or yogic limbs, but seven heavenly, as the earth or earth element is not yet heavenly until Zion is established by those watching or yearning for Zion (Luke 12:37).
The seven dimensions or parables of meaning relating to blood atonement, or sacrifice offerings in general, which are degrees of atonement, will be outlined here, in both the Hebrew and its kindred terms, and the English, and then their place with the Temple and the Tree of Life. I will treat the Word exclusively for each concept, first the blood, then the atonement. I will start each entry by first naming the dimension. This outline will show the various meanings or parabolic refinements as you ascend the dimensions of the Tree of Life.
The offerings are also parables with deeper meanings, but I won't go into that here, as it would be too lengthy for the space or maximum word limit allowed for one article, and a diversion from a strict adherence to the topic, and therefore would tend to confuse and abuse the mind:
BLOOD (the life, lineage, and passion of all creatures):
1. Physical: Adamiy - Earthly, modest, downcast, kindred, the vine or wine, to effuse, spill, or flow. TEMPLE: Brazen Altar, Burnt-Offering or Consecration, which affects the blood, or is a giving or spilling of ourselves in faith. TREE: Malkhut or Receptive Kingdom, the feet.
2. Metaphysical: Enowsh - Stranger, to thirst, sigh, mourn, or yearn, embryonic Zion, to flower, assess, prove, accredit, enroll, manifest. TEMPLE: The Laver, Meat Offering or Fasting, which also affects the blood in greater refinement. TREE: Yesod or Pure Seed, family, or (societal) foundation, the groin, through repentance.
3. Allegorical: Geduwlah - To assemble for mighty or noble acts or work, which affects the blood or passion in greater refinement, which fluxes or flows to a tide of daily increase within. TEMPLE: The Door, the Drink and Heave Offerings, to drink deeply in study and to heave in practice. TREE: First veil or Mother Mem, which is a path of light combining two outer dimensions or gates of Hod and Netzach (Learning and Practice), the two hips, involving joyful service by a full immersion of study and of action, of which baptism or the door to the Kingdom is symbolic.
4. Awakening: Dam - Cut off, made desolate, to hold peace, quiet self, innocent, made in similitude, spiritual union or first sealing. TEMPLE: The Holy Sanctuary, the heart, the Wave Offering, to wave off thy former idols, affections, or connections. TREE: Tiferet or True Self, the gift of the Holy Ghost through sweetness and bliss, which is Holy Spirit element bestowed as a gift into the heart, which further refines the blood.
5. Exoteric: Alef ("netsach") - Constant and enduring strength to view heaven from a distance or from afar, which strengthens and further refines the blood. TEMPLE: Altar of Incense or inward senses. TREE: Second veil or Mother Alef, which is a path of light combining two outer dimensions or gates of Gevurah and Chesed (Judgment and Mercy), the shoulders, involving silent acceptance, which is endurance in the gift of sweetness or Holy Spirit granted or realized in the awakening (#4), which further refines the blood.
My maximum word limit has run out. I will finish Part IV in the next post, as Part IV (b).
I forgot to add the yogas, which are important and corresponding practices of refinement. These would be separate practices or initiations unto themselves, while keeping in mind their relevance to their respective dimension.
Each yoga is a separate course of study. Volumes are written on each one. The people of India got the yogas from Japheth or the original Pathanjali, son of Noah. They were given further perfections of the yogas during Christ's sojourn there as a young man, when he'd travel with His Uncle Joseph of Aramethia as a merchant. However, they being a proud people, they cast him out, and banned him from their forums (poor, poor me).
1. Yamas: The last five of the Ten Commandments, in faith, with a daily increase of their study and application or perfection, which add to the blood's refinement.
2. Niyamas: The first five of the Ten Commandments, in repentance, adding more to the blood's refinement.
3. Asanas: Firm and pleasant posturing in the immersion or baptism of any study and practice, further adding to the blood's refinement.
4. Pranayama: Breath Control, then cessation, cut off or cast out, literally to "take your breath away", to make room for the influx or inflow of Holy Spirit of Celestial Union Power, or bliss, sweetness, no longer a seeker only, but also a keeper.
Now that I have repented of my gaffe, I will add the other yogas in Part IV (b).
May I ask why street's posts are being tolerated in this way on this blog? First it was Ruth for months and months, now it's street..I have seen far more decent and coherent posts not posted permanently on this blog, but people like Ruth and street can post ridiculous diatribes over and over. Is it to allow them to prove, multiple times over, their rancor and instability? I mean, seriously, street says things I think prove he basically should be under some kind of supervision and/or investigation. I hope someone knows who he is and can track where he is posting. He says things that border on criminal behavior, imo. Anyone that blows hot air for many paragraphs over and over again about blood atonement should be watched in some way, at least by noting and recording their posting location(s).
The atonement of Christ is not offensive to any but the Anti-Christ, which IS criminal and should be watched, investigated, and prosecuted. But where no crime is committed, even the anti-Christ should be allowed to worship something else, just not within the House of God. The innocent worshippers of God should be and are the most protected by good government and acts of God. If you want to assault that, you must also suffer the consequences of a criminal.
Anonymous 01:59 PM - and others who may think I administer this blog. To be perfectly clear, no, I do not!
I am one of several who long ago was given the ability by unknown administrator(s) to start new threads. That is all I can do besides post comments like everyone else. However, I seem to be the only one of those several who has done that lately. And I've done so just to keep this blog from going into rigor mortis. It was once fun and lively.
The truth is, I only lurk here occasionally when my email shows activity from posters other than Ruth and Street. I have not the ability to ban anyone.
Street, if you would like your own thread, I'd be happy to provide you with one that can be visited, commented and/or debated by your interested readers. In fact, since you have such a good start here, I can revise this thread to be your very own and start another one for those who are offended by your proffered writings. I do believe it takes a very special kind of intelligence to "get" what you have to say.
I am 1:59 anonymous. I used to try to read this blog until I finally gave up for awhile after Ruth wouldn't stop what she was doing on it. Now, I occasionally look at it and find that street is posting long and strange things which go all over the place and which sometimes insult those trying to follow comments concerning flds. Street, I DON'T actually read with care 90 per cent of what you say, because it is outside the scope of what I can withstand. I am someone who sees important differences between the belief systems of this world. I see long paragraphs supposedly explaining Hindu and Buddhist ideas, then I see Bible passage twisting, and soapbox lectures by someone who is obviously mixed up pretty badly, imo. You mix so many things together that are in opposition to Bible teachings, then you try to come back to lecturing using Bible verses here and there, trying to appear as some sort of Bible believer and defender.
You were not talking about the atonement of Christ in the small portion of what you were posting that I actually read. You seemed to be talking about the blood atonement beliefs of flds, which are not related to what Christ did for mankind on the cross of Calvary. I cannnot abide that kind of "pro-flds-abuses"/heresy, and pro-warren talk. I happen to be a born-again evangelical Christian. You hack at so many people's beliefs imo, that you long ago abandoned discernment. If someone, anyone, still supports the evil man warren jeffs as you seem to, in spite of the vast amount of child abuse that has been documented BY WARREN'S OWN handwriting and dictations, then that person simply cannot be a humble Christian. That person is a hypocritical and idolatrous person who should not be permitted to freely rail against those who obey the laws of the US. I have just grown so disgusted at the confusion of what you say, and how much of it there is, that I finally said something today. You obviously are in your right mind enough to still insult people, and even try to liken them to anti-Christ, so I will not apologize any more than I know you ever will, street. I just felt someone should finally say something more, after all this nonsense, confusion, and insults against others that you have dished out lately.
To 3:31 pm: Feralfem. Okay, give the people a separate thread. I'll finish this topic here, and mayby do other topics, since all my posts are already here. Thanks, and thanks to Jimmy too.
Now for 1:59 anonymous: You little shi...ny intellectual. How can you come to any truth by your own confessed condemnation before investigation, as you say that you "don't actually read 90% of my posts, and the 10% that you do read, you cannot stand". You mean, someone is force-feeding you of my nourishments? Are you able to scroll? I will do a lesson on scrolling, if you'd like. But you can't be squeamish about playing with a mouse and a little pointy thing.
As for me "posting long and strange things" (Isaiah 28:21, Luke 5:26), I was specifically invited to do so. Again, you might take a community college class on scrolling. Some tasks can be quite challenging. Besides, the forum allows 4,000 characters, which isnt bloggers, but actually little sqiggly things full of light. If Jimmy wants to go into settings and change it to 40 or 4 characters, that's his business. Okay sweet-cheeks?
As for belief systems offending other people, that is your prejudiced twisted mind offending yourself, and "Woe to them by whom the offenses come" (Matt. 18:7; Luke 17:1). Of course, we know there are extremists in Christianity who go on crusades and inquisitions, mass kidnappings, even genocide, but the criminals come to justice. No wonder billions hate Christians, but some do repent and become human, that is some mighy eventually find Jesus, and not just a warm fuzzy fantasy. If you keep not His law, it's just a fantasy, a lie.
The original belief systems of the world compliment and interface, including polygamy and marriage at twelve, like all the great religions have believed and practiced. For they all come from the same original source, one God and Father of us all, millions of years old, who came to the twelve-year old virgin and fathered the Son of God. The wisest men in history find the wisdom and gems in them all, as unified fields (FLDS).
That makes it YOU who is "mixed up pretty badly". But hey! I'll pray for you. Your mommy might still love you. You've forgotten Jesus and your evangelical Christianity to "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and all mankind, instead of trying to criminalize and destroy them, but to correct the plank in your own eye, and let others take care of themselves and also have the privilege to live the Gospel as it is actually written, including marriage at twelve (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42...etc).
Virgin Mary Married at the age of twelve: 1. She is called a "virgin", which is defined as "a young unmarried girl or maiden", as in maided voyage, the first flow, which is around twelve, is it not?
2. Then, God's law: "Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors (the FIRST menses when it is most pure), and of thy firsfborn (the result of that offering): Exodus 22:29).
3. More on God's law: Government "to those who render Him the fruits in their seasons" (Matt. 21:41). Girls come into season around twelve, do they not? Does God's Word offend you?
4. Then Jesus Himself: "And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the (marriage) feast". See, he and all the faithful marry around age twelve. We know for a fact that it was His marriage feast, because Strong's shows that the meaning of "feast" for this very scripture is (1859): "Dar: Of age, adolescent or adult essence, for generation of seed".
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN AND NEITHER WITH STREETS POSTS.
Street let save you the effort.
TEXAS POLYGAMY: Onthestreet's Area May 22, 2005 I promised OnTheStreet I'd make him his very own area. By using this, he is agreeing that he will post all of his thoughts/ideas/feelings in this area, and not any other on texaspolygamy.blogspot.com. I will assume that posts in ... http://texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/
TEXAS POLYGAMY: Please Stand By Apr 30, 2005 Unfortunately, anonymous comments on this blog were temporarily suspended today because one blogger (onthestreet) refused to follow the rules. I am looking for a solution to the problem, but for now I encourage those ... http://texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/
Hey! Is this electrifying, digitizing, mortifying, public square in a box thingy still alive, swarming, connected, operative, energized, homoginized, vivacious? Does Jimmy still have a pulse.
Well gosh, praise God, he's alive. Jimmy, how can I better serve to properly inform your public (both bloggers)? I do trust you all don't mind me playing with you, like a shark plays with a seal. But I didn't mean for my moral fibulator to shock you Christian take on things. I will try to be more sensitive to you all, and maybe use only a million volts, instead of ten million. Deal?
I must say, I see alot of good in you people, or I wouldn't even bother posting here. Whether you're professed Christian, Mormon (i.e. Christian), government (anti), Mormon Fundamental (i.e. Christian: CP, AUB, Kingston, etc), Kathylick (oops, be sensitive), or if you are full-bore ultra-conservative (Christian), or of an endeavor of faith under other world religions (Taoist, Buddhist, Hindu, Athiest, whathavya), there is so much good and truth there. Just one look at their children, and they are full of faith and hope and beauty.
Nothing prettier than children, some would say inspite of their faith. No, it is because of their faith. So they got that from parents of faith, all originating from one faith since Cain bopped Abel (boink). "Gosh brother, didn't mean to kill ya! Come back. I miss my little playmate".
All faiths consist of crucial elements that are Christian to the tee, including the atonement of a God. They just call Him by a name that is meaningful in their language. Yes, others' beliefs may temporarily shock the ignorant, enough to give us a pulse, that we not die, so that is good. You want a pulse, right? So I'm happy to have energized the Jimmy energizing bunny, so that we can enjoy his company more in this life.
See? On closer look, all faiths are a brotherhood, each one holding some very deep secrets crucial to Christ's atonement, for He is Lord and Creator of ALL, is He not? In many ways, they fit Christianity to a tee, while Christianity in many ways may fail to do so. So, tea anyone? And do NOT offer me beer. I'll drink with you, so long as it is something as lovely and nourishing as a mother's milk, or when the weany is weaned, something herbal or fruity, see?
Let's love each other the world over, to heal the world, and prepare for a heaven on earth, for all hatred and impurity is being swept away for this Nirvana, Camelot, Shangrila, Zion, place of heavenly enchantment and glamour.
Answer To Objections - Part II (Cont. from March 7, 12:01 am)
Virgin Mary, Married at the age of twelve:
5. Bar & Bat Mitzvah is Israel's "Coming of Age Ceremony", marriage at age 12, and the FLDS is of Israel descent. It is also the Christian law or code (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42 etc...). It is common knowledge that America is dominantly and historically a Christian nation. So, this is the law, and anything else is criminal, the restriction and elimination of life, and genocide, and should so be prosecuted, vs the criminal government playbook at overlordsofchaos.com.
6. Now, look up Mitzvah in Strongs (4687), and I quote: "THE LAW", end-quote.
7. Now, look it up in the Greek, which is much more to the point: Mitzvah (marriage at 12), in the Greek is "Speiro", and I quote: "To sow and receive seed", end-quote. VERY TELLING, yes?
8. Everyone knows, including all legislators and judges and other government officials, that this is the law, and therefore they can be prosecuted for violating it, and the citizens can be swept off the land for permitting those crimes, as is now happening with one-third of the nation left in tornado shambles just one week ago. But there is MUCH more, and I shall do a series on "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve", if you'd like.
9. As you can see from item #4 above, even our Lord and Creator married at age 12, to do what? To create, from the purity of the stream at puberty, to fulfill His own right and office as the Creator, according to His own commandments (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc..., and according to the Mitzvah law: "I came NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (Matt. 9:17).
10. "In the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils...forbidding to marry" (I Tim. 4:1-3).
At this point, I will give just a very brief intro to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
1. "Google it: "Twelve is the age of consent". Much to see, including: litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/... (by K. Gonzales 2010, SMU Dedman school of Law and Business Review of the Americas: 16 Law & Bus. Rev. Am. 285.
2. California is the most populous or democratic state in our nation, and the democracy shows the liberalization of marriage, being the most liberal of all. There's not even a residency requirement. You can fly in, get married, and live legally in any other state, or you can just live civilly, with no "legal" marriage at all. Why ask for permission for what is clearly of God, certainly with the FLDS? Divorce "legally", and live civilly, as concenting adults. And now, California has just overturned the Prop. 8 marriage ban. With that, and the no residency requirement, all the other states are wide open to attacks on their marriage laws, as well as the ongoing attacks or acts of God now taking place, for challenging His own right and place to create from a pure stream (adolescence) . The U. S. Supreme Court has also refused to address that openess to attack. It legitimizes polygamy.
Answer To Objections - Part II (Cont. from March 7, 12:01 am)
Virgin Mary, Married at the age of twelve:
5. Bar & Bat Mitzvah is Israel's "Coming of Age Ceremony", marriage at age 12, and the FLDS is of Israel descent. It is also the Christian law or code (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42 etc...). It is common knowledge that America is dominantly and historically a Christian nation. So, this is the law, and anything else is criminal, the restriction and elimination of life, and genocide, and should so be prosecuted, vs the criminal government playbook at overlordsofchaos.com.
6. Now, look up Mitzvah in Strongs (4687), and I quote: "THE LAW", end-quote.
7. Now, look it up in the Greek, which is much more to the point: Mitzvah (marriage at 12), in the Greek is "Speiro", and I quote: "To sow and receive seed", end-quote. VERY TELLING, yes?
8. Everyone knows, including all legislators and judges and other government officials, that this is the law, and therefore they can be prosecuted for violating it, and the citizens can be swept off the land for permitting those crimes, as is now happening with one-third of the nation left in tornado shambles just one week ago. But there is MUCH more, and I shall do a series on "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve", if you'd like.
9. As you can see from item #4 above, even our Lord and Creator married at age 12, to do what? To create, from the purity of the stream at puberty, to fulfill His own right and office as the Creator, according to His own commandments (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc..., and according to the Mitzvah law: "I came NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (Matt. 9:17).
10. "In the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils...forbidding to marry" (I Tim. 4:1-3).
At this point, I will give just a very brief intro to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
1. "Google it: "Twelve is the age of consent". Much to see, including: litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/... (by K. Gonzales 2010, SMU Dedman school of Law and Business Review of the Americas: 16 Law & Bus. Rev. Am. 285.
2. California is the most populous or democratic state in our nation, and the democracy shows the liberalization of marriage, being the most liberal of all. There's not even a residency requirement. You can fly in, get married, and live legally in any other state, or you can just live civilly, with no "legal" marriage at all. Why ask for permission for what is clearly of God, certainly with the FLDS? Divorce "legally", and live civilly, as concenting adults. And now, California has just overturned the Prop. 8 marriage ban. With that, and the no residency requirement, all the other states are wide open to attacks on their marriage laws, as well as the ongoing attacks or acts of God now taking place, for challenging His own right and place to create from a pure stream (adolescence) . The U. S. Supreme Court has also refused to address that openess to attack. It legitimizes polygamy.
Introduction to: The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
3. English common law sets the minimum age for marriage at age twelve for females. Jewish tradition set it at ten. The youngest mother ever was age five. Britain's youngest mum (Teresa Middleton) was preggy at age 11.
4. Age twelve corresponds to the spiral dynamics on human development.
5. OU (Orthodox Union): 61. Age of Consent: Thirteen for men, twelve for girls: jlaw.com/Briefs/tenafly-ou.html. Today's Talmud sets the age for females at 11, and all who descended from Israel have that right to their faith, and the law on marriage. This is emphatically true of a society that restricts ALL sexual relations, siring by artificial insemination, as the FLDS has initiated. Even historically, the FLDS has always restricted sexual relations to marriage only. So, in this light, and with all these facts, the FLDS must be immune or exempt from other laws on marriage, or "the law and the nation still in opposition to God's right to create, and to the rights to life, must face prosecution and acts of God. There is no other alternative.
6. In U. S. law, the age for females was ten (until just 100 years ago), and law as legally defined is: "The regime that orders human activities and relations through systematic application of force" (Black's Law Dictionary). It is the opposite of systematic if you look at the definition of "systematic" "According to a system, regularly organized". It is most unsystematic and irregular if you have all these conflicting laws. In fact, the third definition in my dictionary is: "Regularly organized and done especially for an evil purpose", as in a systematic attack on lasting unchangable laws and rights of humanity to life.
7. Law: A system of rules formed to protect a society; a statement of what ALWAYS occurs, NOT rules to attack that society, and by arbitrary ever-changing and conflicting rules to fit the gross conflicts of interest of an LDS majority leader in Congress and an LDS managed FBI and LDS state-run and influenced governments, to systematically attack their historical arch-enemy, the FLDS Church.
8. The legal age has always traditionally and predominantly been 12, throughout world history, and was recently 10 in the U. S. So, you must be systematic and unchanging of law to protect life, NOT to destroy it, and to continue law, which is "A statement of what ALWAYS occurs", end-quote, or else it is NOT law, but just the opposite, the violation of law to pander to a criminal and special-interest group, at the gross espense of a society, according to the criminal political playbook (overlordsofchaos.com).
9. M. Nid. 5:4 Sanhedrin 7/55B: "A girl three-years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse". Very gross. The FLDS practice is "No sexual relations at all, before marriabe OR after, at ANY age. That's pretty clean! But the Sanhedrin and these other laws and facts of marriage at age 12 or under, is just to clearly show that there is no basis for restricting marriage to 12 and over, that being the natural and Canon law, and historically and predominantly the law of the land.
This is just a very brief outline/introduction to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve". I'll do a series on that, if you'd like.
In Part IV of this Answer to Objections, I will finish addressing the specific objections raised on March 6, at 5:07 pm.
Continuing with the specific objections raised on March 7, 12:01 am:
As I said before (to anonymous in Part I): All this makes it YOU who is mixed up, and very badly.
Furthermore, in your March 6 (5:07 am) objection, you spoke of my explanations of Christ's Blood Atonement, which I will continue in Blood Atonement - Part IV (b), and then in the same breath you said, and I quote: "You were not talking about the atonement of Christ in the small portion that I actually read (10%). So, you didn't even read it, which makes you incompetent to even comment on it. Am I correct? Can you comment on something you've never read, and that you admit you refuse to read? See? All will agree that you cannot do it, being incompetent.
Then, you speak of your intellence as being born again. Ahah. You reject the Word of Christ on something as important as marriage (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc...), and you are born of Christ. See? Can't happen, can it.
"When anyone heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he (or she) which receiveth seed by the wayside" (Matt. 13:19). He also which receiveth seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word, and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful (id. v. 22). "Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown" (Mark 4:15) "making the word of God of none effect through your tradition" (id. 7:13).
But if you were (that is, in fact, born of the word), I would shout out, "Hey Binky, me too, having as you say my emphasis on a deep personal religious experience (but even an orgasm can give people that). If you reject Christ's word, especially on marriage and the creation of souls, your experience is little more than a kind of psychological excitement, see, a devil come as an angel of light to deceive you, having some hokis-pokus that some ministers etc. fed you early on. So having chosen to reject Christ's word on marriage, etc, this makes you subject and worthy of devils, hearers only, thus deceiving your own selves (James 1:22).
It is better to live all your life single and dwell in the Lord, than to be married wrong. Even Christ was sealed in marriage by placement marriage, as we see him at twelve (Luke 2:42) and at thirty (John 2:1), where Jesus as the bridegroom "was called to the wedding". That is placement marriage, as shown by Christ Himself.
The Tree of Life IS the Cross (Gen. 2:9; 3:22; Rev. 2:7) not some hokis-pokus that others fed you early on. Talk about being brain-washed! It is the Ten Commandments, the Ten Offerings, and ALL that Christ spoke and gave of Himself, the parables and correspondences, NOT just His flesh only. You insult Him and His servant, he being far more than just flesh. The Cross is the full tree (M-K) of offerings in ascending degrees, until you reach the tenth: "I commend my spirit unto Thee", the freewill offering (Lev. 22:21; Deut. 16:10; Ezra 3:5, etc.). Without this, ye cannot be born again, for Christ gave ten commandments, offerings, etc. If ten are found, then shall ye be saved (Gen. 24:22).
There! This is your lesson for the day. Now, give your teacher a nice red juicy apple. Oh, yummy!
I will conclude be explaining the last quotes of Part IV, and note how this ties into the answers to these objections and the blood atonement, that a minion of ten (keys, offerings, dimensions, perfect men) is required to be born again, or to be atoned and redeemed:
"If ten be found" in thee, and in all of creation of descent (K-M), and in the atonement of that creation in the ascent (M-K), then "I will not destroy it for ten's sake" (Gen. 18:32).
In the spiritual unions of the FLDS (those that indeed sow only to the spirit, and NEVER to the flesh), the two light earings are symbolic of the two arch-cherubim of light, the Father and the Son (Gen. 24:22). The two bracelets are the two braces or columns of all creation, Jachin and Boaz (1 Kings 7:21). The ten gold shekels are the ten minion sefirot, the full law, with the three veiled mothers/wives, plus twenty-four, including five which are used by the true eternal Priesthood to seal. All are sealed by Holy Spirit of the Father in the Sanctuary (T), whose correspondent metal and color are pure gold, refined in seven phases. Thus the "ten gold shekels", all unified, atoned, redeemed, or reborn in One.
If ye are not so constituted of the full Tree or Cross, nor keep the full law, every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God (including multiple spiritual unions at twelve, NOT physical or sexual unions), and if ye do not prune that tree (Matt. 10:34), then it dies and ye are NOT born again. Ye hath broken ALL of the branches and commandments (Matt. 5:19). So you as re certainly not born again, having been aborted, unborn, cut off, of the spirit which is life (Gal. 6:8). Ye are cut off from the light or word of Christ by your own choice, having rejected His word and light on the purity of life from the source of the stream at twelve (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc...). By rejecting life, ye are not born, nor saved, in the Kingdom of God, by your own choice. So this is your style of (self) murder or blood atonement, a taker of life, committed by none other than yourself, what you have been accusing givers of life (the FLDS) of doing.
The blood atonement of Christ is universal, to resurrect all, but to resurrect to what? To judgment, just as Christ says (Matt. 5:21; 7:2; 12:36, etc...). By restricting life, or marriage, or by supporting the law of the land which mass-murders little children, you kill. Again Matt. 5:21: "Whosoever shall kill, or even be angry with a brother or neighbor, shall be in danger of the judgment".
Christ restricts all sexual relations, even in conception (Gal. 6:8; Matt. 5:28), for none other than virgins will be redeemed or born again (Rev. 14:4). The FLDS is thus purifying a remnant (Isaiah 1:9; Zech. 8:12). Rev. 12:17, for this very thing, in likewise restricting all sexual relations, and by casting out all opposing kin like Christ says (Matt. 10:34), the wave-offering (Exodus 29:24; Acts 21:26), for a pure and prepared people to redeem Zion (Zech. 8:3).
So, do you still want to speak of "hypocritical and idolotrous and disgusting FLDS persons who rail against those who obey the law of the land", the law of the mass-murder and kidnapping of millions of little children, and even preventing their birth? Then you speak of how confused you are. Little wonder, Stevie!
Finally, you say to me: "You are obviously in your right mind". So which is it, hypocritical, idolotrous, and disgusting, or in our right mind? We understand your confusion, and will pray for you. Meanwhile, perhaps feralfem will give you milk instead of meat (Heb. 5:12). Good luck.
Now, for you ladies who wear the pants, your balls are fun to play with if ya had any: Basketball, baseball, pingpong, even balls of yarn. Butt-darn for you, sports are a gross distraction from the redemption, and that's the truth. You got that, sport? We work out our salvation, not play it out, and that is infinitely and eternally more fun. So quicha playing around, and don't play in the street.
belated reply to street the lunatic for his march 11 drivel-- you are in your right mind enough to verbosely insult others and frankly, even God Himself constantly, by misusing His word. And you string together outrageous and derogatory remarks, which takes a few brain cells..but the rest of the time (most of it, that is) you are not at all in your right mind. I am certain you have no prayers that the LORD would ever listen to, street. At least not while you are in such a mental and spiritual morass of filth mixed with misused Scripture. So don't waste your time... but then again, since all that time seems spent worthlessly anyway, maybe you should do whatever praying you think best. I am certain your "praying" is total blasphemy anyway, probably similar to your disgraceful diatribes online. This should hopefully help bring your disgraceful life to an end sooner than later, one can only hope. God doesn't suffer those forever such as yourself, who are clearly destined for the lowest and harshest places of His universe.
Wow STREET !!! What a flipping mess You are! I pray (somehow) you get 'TURNED ON' to the TRUTH cause you surely are far far far far far far far OFF the mark. GOD IS LOVE, LIGHT & TRUTH -- I see NONE of that here at all....
You do in fact have the right to YOUR opinions, but with what you've stated, if I were an LDS or an FLDS member or even any type of MORMON........ I would (run) RRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN as hard as I could in the opposite direction. YOU SCARE ME!!! SORRY, BUT THAT IS A FACT !!!
STREET: If YOU are going to continue to post in public forums, PLEASE,,, at least do it with some kind of dignity!!! I know you think you are having fun and all, but your writing style is VERY REPULSIVE to ANY reader. I have to ask myself .... WHY ??? What point or points is this guy trying to make? Are you ANGRY at someone??? Maybe your DAD, your MOM............ or..... your CHURCH ? Go ahead and express yourself a bit more .......... I'm praying for you Bro .....................
STREET: I am sorry you are an angry pedophile. Quoting scripture completely out of context---your desperate to validate your sick fantasies. This drivel isn't for others---you know your sick and a patchwork quilt of scripture & mormon fiction is the only way you can live with yourself. LUKE 2:42 has nothing to do with placement marriage @12. The passage refers to the Feast of Passover JOHN 2:1 isn't jesus' wedding. He & the deciples were invited there. It's about the miracle of turning water into wine. SERIOUSLY, You affect no one---it's just you.
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As for Warren and Lyle, they are the generals of the Lord to this generation, the warring of lye to cleanse: Matt. 10:34. There it is.
More like the warren of the lie.
Street
Still waiting for your scholarly answer to my question?
Why would a prophet build a alter to another prophet?
To 06:54 pm:
Ye alter, see? When you alter the truth, then everything else to you is an idol.
As for altars, they are commanded of God from time immemorial, altars of sacrifice, and then the marriage altar, see? All will agree that this is good.
Then again, they who thirst for blood will always be fantacising for altars for their cult, your American cult (ure) of daily blood sacrifice (mass murder) of little children, 4,000 daily, so far 50-million slain by your laws of blood sacrifice-idolatry, the worst blood-bath in the history of man, far worse than any Hitler or Herod, the abundant taking of life while accusing a prophet for the abundant giving of life.
There is your altar, your blood cult, your guilt, your own commission of capital crimes against humanity, which carries the death penalty.
Lyle is just a Nancy boy.
Can he start getting it right, or shall I have my little sister come on over and show him how?
You consider Warren and Lyle fools, and mock them, and this fulfills the prophecies:
"The days of visitation are come...The prophet is a fool; the spiritual man is mad for the multitude of thine iniquity and thy great hatred" (Hosea 9:7).
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise...the weak to confound the things which are mighty" (1 Cor.
Tis the similitude of Christ, delivered unto the gentiles and mocked (Luke 18:32). The saints are now mocked at the last time (Judce 18). And now, "The mocker shall be had in remembrance before the Lord, and calamity shall cover the mocker (D&C 45:50). "God is not mocked...for so shall ye reap" (Gal. 6:7).
I will continue blood atonement this evening, Part 1 (of 5 parts). The foregoing posts were an introduction.
Feb. 12, 06:06 am
"I shall explain the beautiful and truthful Mormon doctrine of blood atonement, if you'd like":
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part I
(At-One-Ment, to make one/won)
The doctrine of blood atonement is the ultimate doctrine of Christ, because it unifies the children of God, of Adam, to the eternity of the Gods, making them ONE radiant light in the cosmos, like any system of trillions and centillions of stars in one galaxy or universe, yet at a distance, it is but one star, for God is one. And all will agree, that is beautiful, is it not.
The eternal doctrine of blood atonement is also beautiful because it is all voluntary, no force or murder involved. It is done by God Himself, for if it is done by man, that is murder. It is by one's own desire and choice, whether it is the wicked rejecting the law of God by choice, and thus having to atone through acts of God, or the more righteous having committed a sin unto death, and asking God to allow him to atone for that, by actual command of God, not by anyone taking that law into his own hands. Thus, by the actual command of God was the willing sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham. But there was intercession, because he had no sin unto death to atone for, and innocent prophets who atone for a dispensation or a generation are quickly lifted up (Rev. 11:12).
So we can all see how beautiful it all is. Everytime you remove the ugliness, rebellion, and mockery against God from a nation, you enhance its beauty, see?
This article is a 5-part series, but I will keep each part brief and simple, so that even a child can understand it. I will begin this series by asserting that the final word and teaching to any generation is the Prophet of that generation. The Prophet Warren has taught many GREAT things on this topic, and on every crucial topic under the Sun, but ye would not. His revelations and dictations are most poetic and uplifting. But you nave to be looking for those gems, or else you never find them. All who look for iniquity are cut off by acts of God to atone for their sin, having rejected Christ (Isaiah 29:20), having rejected His own Word and Law on marriage at 12, to wit: Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:49, and the globally acknowledged law of the faithful Bar and Bat Mitzvah, which Christ "came not to destroy, but to fulfill" (Matt. 5:17).
So, having blinded yourselves by rejecting the light of Christ, the Lord turns the poetic and precise word of His Prophet into incoherent rambling idiosy for like minds, for idiosy is what you have sought for. So shall ye receive, even as ye seek (Matt. 7:7), and shall reap the whirlwind judgments, having sought for judgment (Is. 41:16; Jer. 23:19; 30:23), by your choice and desire, that ye might blood atone.
So here again, the Prophet will give the final Word to this generation.
Continue Part 2.
"The days of visitation are come...The prophet is a fool; the spiritual man is mad for the multitude of thine iniquity and thy great hatred" (Hosea 9:7).
Street lets talk about Hosea.
This is a piece of Israel's (Ephraim) history where the priesthood turned into a sex cult. The priests where perverting and twisting the sacrifice of worship into a profit making venture.
'I AM' God forbids the worship of other gods and harlotry. Israels priests were having sexual contact with "temple" prostitutes.
Hosea is about Ephraim sin by practicing Canaanite rituals of sacrifice accompanied by ritual intercourse.
Hosea 4.17: Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.
Hosea 5.3: I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou commit whoredom, and Israel is defiled.
Hosea 5.9: Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.
Hosea 6.10: I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled.
Hosea 6.6: For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hosea 8.11: Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.
Hosea 9.3: They shall not dwell in the LORD's land; but Ephraim shall return to Egypt, and they shall eat unclean things in Assyria.
Hosea 9.16: Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.
Hosea 9.16: Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.
Hosea 11.12: Ephraim compasses me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet rules with God, and is faithful with the saints.
"You consider Warren and Lyle fools, and mock them, and this fulfills the prophecies"
Pretty easy to prophesy that you will be mocked as a fool, when you persist to act like one.
Street, Lyle, Warren, Ruth, others.
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part II
(Atonement vs Murder)
Round two of 2012's Whirlwind Judgments occurred today, just three days after round one. Now, according to the news reports, "a third of the nation is in devastation and heartbreak", with 100's of new tornadoes have struck today, as you continue to support the law of the land to kidnap, to commit genocide, and to abort or take life, and mock God and His right to create life according to the eternal law, from the purity of the source at puberty (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:49, etc...). This is only the tip of your Titanic iceberg of blood atonement. March is the slow month of tornado season, and already a third of the nation is in morning. April, May, and June are the deadliest, and yet you dare mock God, and say that we "persist to act like a fool?
Furthermore, the FLDS critics are now reported to be at each others' throats, setting the stage for Occupy Revolution and civil war, also prophecied of by this Prophet and other LDS prophets, more blood atonement, in lockstep with the world's political playbook: lordsofchaos.com.
The false accusations of the wicked against the FLDS Church are the retaliatory manifestations of the LDS FBI, LDS-influenced states, and other sordid apostates, being proven inferior, and thus the sensational heart and mind of the troubled, the unstable, unintelligent and criminal souls seeking to hide or diminish their own crimes by artificially criminalizing the stark contrast of the FLDS, which contrast drags their own blackness into the light.
So I take the beautiful and eternal doctrine of blood attonement as just one example of the sad, sensational, alarmist war-dance of savages. But all other criminal accusations against the FLDS are just as easilly proven wrong. You name the crime, and I will prove its true and proper place within a true and cultured society. Yes, individuals err, but they are quickly handled, as the world is now witnessing. So we'll start with this one, the crime or false accusation of murder, what you erroniously mistake for atonement in the present refined state of the FLDS, but is in fact murder within the Labaron clan, as it was among fringe Mormons from the mid 1830's to late 1850's, such as the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
Was the Massacre done by Mormons? The answer is yes. But "We believe that man will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression", or for anyone else's. Nearly all Americans believe that, and the law certainly holds to the doctrine. But that massacre was not atonement. That was murder. One is true and of the light, and the other is false and black as midnight. BIG difference, yes?
Will Bagley has researched and written extensively and convincingly on that massacre, in "Blood Of The Prophets". Also see: salamandersociety.com.../willbagley for a talk he gave to that society, giving more details that are not in the book. Equating the actual crimes of fringe and apostate Mormons to all Mormons is as wreckless and juvenile as equating Twiggie to Dolly Parton...Okay, bad example. It's as bad as equating the Mob to the Vienna Boys Choir, or Satan to Christ, because we all came to this earth, so guilt by association. How incredible and stupid is that?
The FLDS is a culture that loves man so much that they will correct them, rather than leave them in mortal and eternal danger, or kill them like much of the world is so willing to do. Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact. But it is also a fact that 99% of them would eventually apostatize, abandon Christ, and thus the full power of Christ's atonement would not be effectual to exalt, but only to resurrect to judgment day, which is a universal atonement enjoyed by all.
See Mediation And Atonement by John Taylor.
Continue Part III
Blah, blah,blah...blood atonement ...
Sermon on the Mount...yada, yada, yawn, sigh.....pffffffft!!!! :{}
Street
You are the most mixed up and creepy person I have ever read.
Was it the Agent Orange?
Huh! That is what you think of the Sermon on the Mount?
Correction: Crucifixion or Martyrdom certainly is murder.
The website given in the second paragraph of Part II should be: overlordsofchaos.com.
To 05:06 am:
By the way, the purpose of a public forum is not to impose views, nor to restrain views of others, but to express views and to defend what you believe is correct. If that is "mixed up and creepy", what further use do you have of freedom?
Go ahead and tell us what exactly is mixed up or creepy, so we can have a fair and balanced discussion, and so everyone can see that you're not just blowing gas or toxic smoke. The truth can certainly sting.
As for agent orange, I flew helicopters in Nam. So we only saw it drop from a distance. But, I am affected by another agent orange, which is the correspondent color of law and scientific fact on the Tree of Life. Google "Tree of Life diagram", and you will see it at the bottom of the left column of creation, which is Boaz (1 Kings 7:21).
Oh, don't mention it; you're quite welcome.
One caveat for the last paragraph of Part II: Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact, IF it wasn't self defense. We know from a number of records that the Arkansas group was heavilly armed, made actual mortal threats, and came directly ahead of Johnsons Army to destroy saint and sinner alike, and this even after the saints had just recently been mass murdered! So somebody had to defend the people. So that wouldn't be murder at all. Just defending your right to live. All will agree with that.
Yes, it was carried out by mortals, men with weaknesses, which is universal to us all. Even the LDS people who gave up their religion in order to be assimilated are striving to be good people. We must allow that opportunity. Not one of them were alive when the church unanimously compromized their faith for expediency and reward. We ALL came to this earth to work things out the best we can. This is why God has continued to give us life, until some of you absolutely reject life and choose something else.
I should give one caveat for the last paragraph of Part II: Murder at Mountain Meadow is an LDS fact, IF it wasn't self defense. We know from a number of records that the Arkansas group was heavilly armed, made actual mortal threats, and came directly ahead of Johnsons Army to destroy saint and sinner alike, and this even after the saints had just recently been mass murdered! So somebody had to defend the people. So that wouldn't be murder at all. Just defending your right to live. All will agree with that.
Yes, it was carried out by mortals, men with weaknesses, which is universal to us all. Even the LDS people who gave up their religion in order to be assimilated are striving to be good people. We must allow that opportunity. Not one of them were alive when the church unanimously compromized their faith for expediency and reward. We ALL came to this earth to work things out the best we can. This is why God has continued to give us life, until some of you absolutely reject life and choose something else.
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part III
(The Atonement Process)
What exactly does atonement mean, and what does it accomplish, and how? What is the exact process?
I will attempt to give some light on the matter, if it is in me to give, and in you to receive, or no one can benefit. It is impossible for light and darkness to occupy the same space at the same time.
Its meaning is in the Word itself, both in Christ ("I Am the Word"), and in (the word) "Atonement": At-One-Ment, as I introduced in Part I. That is, to make us one spiritual Celestial body, Zion, or church, by spiritual union, from which spiritual realm we emanated as spirit. Most souls will take a very long time, and kalpas of time, because "Few there be that find it" (Matt. 7:14), being young spirits without spiritual union, but sowing to the body (Gal. 6:8). Only virgins will be redeemed, or atoned unto heavenly Celestial glory (Rev. 14:4), which is those who restrict ALL sexual relations, even (and especially) in conception, the law of God, of the Nazarene, the Nazarite, the temple-worker. These are "The Keepers", vs "The Seekers or the more profane membership.
So the meaning of atonement is in the Word. How about the process, and what it accomplishes? How exactly is atonement accomplished? In order to actually understand and accomplish the process and the journey, you need Order. You need a map with all the checkpoints, what are called Gates of Heaven, each one representing a dispensation, and each one presided over by only ONE MAN. Therefore, "Few there be that find it". The Tree of Life is that map (see Bible & BOM indexes).
Why is it called the Tree of Life? You need the why in order to use the map to atonement (i.e. to life), AND that one peculiar and rejected man at each gate or Sefirot, or you cannot ascend the Tree, the ten dimensions of space. So, it is called the Tree of Life because it is the vast hierarchy of all life, of all things in existence, within the ten chambers of light, which is the process of creation in descent, and of redemptive atonement in the ascent (Gen. 28:12; John 1:51).
There are ten steps, or a minion circle (prayer), of creation:
Monad, Dyad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Ennead, and Decad. There's alot more, to infinity, but this shows you the bare structure of the creations, and what is in store for those who make it past the first Gate (Warren Jeffs).
Then, there are ten steps, or a minion circle, of redemption, which are the ten sefirit and ALL of the corresponding elements and angelic orders: Malchut, Yesod, Hod, Netzach, Tiferet, Gevurah, Chesed, Binah, Chokmah, and Keter (the embryonic Sun and ten planets within us all), plus a hidden and yet unformed chamber, Daat or perfect knowledge, which is the internal arc of testimony and covenant. This is the unformed asteroid belt within us all. Then each of these 11 chambers of (gospel) light is connected by at least 3 paths of light (minimum of 3 mothers or wives for each one, for a masonic total of 33 degrees.
The top chamber of light (Elohim, Grace, Holy Spirit, etc.) represents our crown. The next two are the Father and the Son (Jehovah or Christ, and Michael or Adam: Life Force or the body's electrical chi, and Life Form or the body's magnetism, body meaning all physical element.
You needed to know all this (and there is infinitely more) in order to come to some grasp of exactly how atonement is accomplished, to wit: Christ being the controller of the life-force or chi chamber, the process of atonement is the process of replacement of our breath and blood (pranayama etc.) with those spirit elements, attributes, and authorities (one man at a time per chamber), in spiritual union, so that the gross flesh becomes light and fluid, in order to flow into one light and one body, like walking through walls, "I in the Father, and the Father in me" (Jonn 14:10): At-One-Ment, see. I would give much more detail, but my maximum word limit is up.
Continue Part IV
Street you are a hoot still using Kabalah and a science fiction novel "off the wall" terms describing Warren Jeffs.
Very appropriate and funny.
There are ten steps, or a minion circle (prayer), of creation:
Monad, Dyad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Ennead, and Decad. There's alot more, to infinity, but this shows you the bare structure of the creations, and what is in store for those who make it past the first Gate (Warren Jeffs).
The meaning of all those crazy Helmsman terms...finally! www.billbaldwin.us/.../Inner%20Gen%20Terms%20FRAME.htm
... divided into ten months: Unad, Diad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Heptad, Octad, Nonad, and Decad, each with 40 days, grouped into four, ten-day weeks.
Bill Baldwin is author of the 2011, five-star Science Fiction novel The Turning Tide. He published The Enigma Strategy, a World-War-II novel in December, 2008. Bill is also author of The Helmsman (1985/2003), Galactic Convoy (1987/2003), The Trophy (1990/2007), The Mercenaries (1991/2008), The Defenders (1992), The Siege (1994), Canby's Legion (1995), and The Defiance (October 1996): Science Fiction novels of the Space Opera genre - originally published by Warner-Aspect.
BLOOD ATONEMENT - Part IV
Dimensions of atonement (parables)
All scripture, and indeed all creation, exist in seven heavenly dimensions of meaning and of substance (parables), plus three hellish dimensions, as even faith is a substance just above the ether (Heb. 11:1). The ascending degrees or refinements of substance are earth, water, fire, air, ether, thought (or faith), light, and spirit, from which elements all things are and were created. These are eight elements or yogic limbs, but seven heavenly, as the earth or earth element is not yet heavenly until Zion is established by those watching or yearning for Zion (Luke 12:37).
The seven dimensions or parables of meaning relating to blood atonement, or sacrifice offerings in general, which are degrees of atonement, will be outlined here, in both the Hebrew and its kindred terms, and the English, and then their place with the Temple and the Tree of Life. I will treat the Word exclusively for each concept, first the blood, then the atonement. I will start each entry by first naming the dimension. This outline will show the various meanings or parabolic refinements as you ascend the dimensions of the Tree of Life.
The offerings are also parables with deeper meanings, but I won't go into that here, as it would be too lengthy for the space or maximum word limit allowed for one article, and a diversion from a strict adherence to the topic, and therefore would tend to confuse and abuse the mind:
BLOOD (the life, lineage, and passion of all creatures):
1. Physical: Adamiy - Earthly, modest, downcast, kindred, the vine or wine, to effuse, spill, or flow. TEMPLE: Brazen Altar, Burnt-Offering or Consecration, which affects the blood, or is a giving or spilling of ourselves in faith. TREE: Malkhut or Receptive Kingdom, the feet.
2. Metaphysical: Enowsh - Stranger, to thirst, sigh, mourn, or yearn, embryonic Zion, to flower, assess, prove, accredit, enroll, manifest. TEMPLE: The Laver, Meat Offering or Fasting, which also affects the blood in greater refinement. TREE: Yesod or Pure Seed, family, or (societal) foundation, the groin, through repentance.
3. Allegorical: Geduwlah - To assemble for mighty or noble acts or work, which affects the blood or passion in greater refinement, which fluxes or flows to a tide of daily increase within. TEMPLE: The Door, the Drink and Heave Offerings, to drink deeply in study and to heave in practice. TREE: First veil or Mother Mem, which is a path of light combining two outer dimensions or gates of Hod and Netzach (Learning and Practice), the two hips, involving joyful service by a full immersion of study and of action, of which baptism or the door to the Kingdom is symbolic.
4. Awakening: Dam - Cut off, made desolate, to hold peace, quiet self, innocent, made in similitude, spiritual union or first sealing. TEMPLE: The Holy Sanctuary, the heart, the Wave Offering, to wave off thy former idols, affections, or connections. TREE: Tiferet or True Self, the gift of the Holy Ghost through sweetness and bliss, which is Holy Spirit element bestowed as a gift into the heart, which further refines the blood.
5. Exoteric: Alef ("netsach") - Constant and enduring strength to view heaven from a distance or from afar, which strengthens and further refines the blood. TEMPLE: Altar of Incense or inward senses. TREE: Second veil or Mother Alef, which is a path of light combining two outer dimensions or gates of Gevurah and Chesed (Judgment and Mercy), the shoulders, involving silent acceptance, which is endurance in the gift of sweetness or Holy Spirit granted or realized in the awakening (#4), which further refines the blood.
My maximum word limit has run out. I will finish Part IV in the next post, as Part IV (b).
Continue Part IV (b).
BLOOD ATONEMENT
Part IV (a) Addendum
I forgot to add the yogas, which are important and corresponding practices of refinement. These would be separate practices or initiations unto themselves, while keeping in mind their relevance to their respective dimension.
Each yoga is a separate course of study. Volumes are written on each one. The people of India got the yogas from Japheth or the original Pathanjali, son of Noah. They were given further perfections of the yogas during Christ's sojourn there as a young man, when he'd travel with His Uncle Joseph of Aramethia as a merchant. However, they being a proud people, they cast him out, and banned him from their forums (poor, poor me).
1. Yamas: The last five of the Ten Commandments, in faith, with a daily increase of their study and application or perfection, which add to the blood's refinement.
2. Niyamas: The first five of the Ten Commandments, in repentance, adding more to the blood's refinement.
3. Asanas: Firm and pleasant posturing in the immersion or baptism of any study and practice, further adding to the blood's refinement.
4. Pranayama: Breath Control, then cessation, cut off or cast out, literally to "take your breath away", to make room for the influx or inflow of Holy Spirit of Celestial Union Power, or bliss, sweetness, no longer a seeker only, but also a keeper.
Now that I have repented of my gaffe, I will add the other yogas in Part IV (b).
Only a couple of phrases/words do my eyes derive any recognizable sense through what they can barely tolerate skimming:
"confuse and abuse the mind"
"gaffe"
I only hope this lends therapeutic exercise to a beleaguered mind.
Moving right along....
There you go, and that is for you, and very telling. Still, I hope you can gain a little, if no more than that.
May I ask why street's posts are being tolerated in this way on this blog? First it was Ruth for months and months, now it's street..I have seen far more decent and coherent posts not posted permanently on this blog, but people like Ruth and street can post ridiculous diatribes over and over. Is it to allow them to prove, multiple times over, their rancor and instability?
I mean, seriously, street says things I think prove he basically should be under some kind of supervision and/or investigation. I hope someone knows who he is and can track where he is posting. He says things that border on criminal behavior, imo. Anyone that blows hot air for many paragraphs over and over again about blood atonement should be watched in some way, at least by noting and recording their posting location(s).
The atonement of Christ is not offensive to any but the Anti-Christ, which IS criminal and should be watched, investigated, and prosecuted. But where no crime is committed, even the anti-Christ should be allowed to worship something else, just not within the House of God. The innocent worshippers of God should be and are the most protected by good government and acts of God. If you want to assault that, you must also suffer the consequences of a criminal.
Anonymous 01:59 PM - and others who may think I administer this blog. To be perfectly clear, no, I do not!
I am one of several who long ago was given the ability by unknown administrator(s) to start new threads. That is all I can do besides post comments like everyone else. However, I seem to be the only one of those several who has done that lately. And I've done so just to keep this blog from going into rigor mortis. It was once fun and lively.
The truth is, I only lurk here occasionally when my email shows activity from posters other than Ruth and Street. I have not the ability to ban anyone.
Street, if you would like your own thread, I'd be happy to provide you with one that can be visited, commented and/or debated by your interested readers. In fact, since you have such a good start here, I can revise this thread to be your very own and start another one for those who are offended by your proffered writings. I do believe it takes a very special kind of intelligence to "get" what you have to say.
So, what say you, Mr Street? ... or anyone else?
Namaste
I am 1:59 anonymous. I used to try to read this blog until I finally gave up for awhile after Ruth wouldn't stop what she was doing on it. Now, I occasionally look at it and find that street is posting long and strange things which go all over the place and which sometimes insult those trying to follow comments concerning flds. Street, I DON'T actually read with care 90 per cent of what you say, because it is outside the scope of what I can withstand. I am someone who sees important differences between the belief systems of this world. I see long paragraphs supposedly explaining Hindu and Buddhist ideas, then I see Bible passage twisting, and soapbox lectures by someone who is obviously mixed up pretty badly, imo. You mix so many things together that are in opposition to Bible teachings, then you try to come back to lecturing using Bible verses here and there, trying to appear as some sort of Bible believer and defender.
You were not talking about the atonement of Christ in the small portion of what you were posting that I actually read. You seemed to be talking about the blood atonement beliefs of flds, which are not related to what Christ did for mankind on the cross of Calvary. I cannnot abide that kind of "pro-flds-abuses"/heresy, and pro-warren talk. I happen to be a born-again evangelical Christian. You hack at so many people's beliefs imo, that you long ago abandoned discernment. If someone, anyone, still supports the evil man warren jeffs as you seem to, in spite of the vast amount of child abuse that has been documented BY WARREN'S OWN handwriting and dictations, then that person simply cannot be a humble Christian. That person is a hypocritical and idolatrous person who should not be permitted to freely rail against those who obey the laws of the US. I have just grown so disgusted at the confusion of what you say, and how much of it there is, that I finally said something today. You obviously are in your right mind enough to still insult people, and even try to liken them to anti-Christ, so I will not apologize any more than I know you ever will, street. I just felt someone should finally say something more, after all this nonsense, confusion, and insults against others that you have dished out lately.
P.S. Thank you for the explanation of your role, feralfem. Best wishes to you.
Twiggy and Dolly Parton, Street
My, my your education is extensive.
Still waiting for a reply to the prophet question.
If you know Warren so well, you should know the answer.
Answer to Objections - Part I
To 3:31 pm: Feralfem.
Okay, give the people a separate thread. I'll finish this topic here, and mayby do other topics, since all my posts are already here. Thanks, and thanks to Jimmy too.
Now for 1:59 anonymous: You little shi...ny intellectual. How can you come to any truth by your own confessed condemnation before investigation, as you say that you "don't actually read 90% of my posts, and the 10% that you do read, you cannot stand". You mean, someone is force-feeding you of my nourishments? Are you able to scroll? I will do a lesson on scrolling, if you'd like. But you can't be squeamish about playing with a mouse and a little pointy thing.
As for me "posting long and strange things" (Isaiah 28:21, Luke 5:26), I was specifically invited to do so. Again, you might take a community college class on scrolling. Some tasks can be quite challenging. Besides, the forum allows 4,000 characters, which isnt bloggers, but actually little sqiggly things full of light. If Jimmy wants to go into settings and change it to 40 or 4 characters, that's his business. Okay sweet-cheeks?
As for belief systems offending other people, that is your prejudiced twisted mind offending yourself, and "Woe to them by whom the offenses come" (Matt. 18:7; Luke 17:1). Of course, we know there are extremists in Christianity who go on crusades and inquisitions, mass kidnappings, even genocide, but the criminals come to justice. No wonder billions hate Christians, but some do repent and become human, that is some mighy eventually find Jesus, and not just a warm fuzzy fantasy. If you keep not His law, it's just a fantasy, a lie.
The original belief systems of the world compliment and interface, including polygamy and marriage at twelve, like all the great religions have believed and practiced. For they all come from the same original source, one God and Father of us all, millions of years old, who came to the twelve-year old virgin and fathered the Son of God. The wisest men in history find the wisdom and gems in them all, as unified fields (FLDS).
That makes it YOU who is "mixed up pretty badly". But hey! I'll pray for you. Your mommy might still love you. You've forgotten Jesus and your evangelical Christianity to "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and all mankind, instead of trying to criminalize and destroy them, but to correct the plank in your own eye, and let others take care of themselves and also have the privilege to live the Gospel as it is actually written, including marriage at twelve (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42...etc).
Virgin Mary Married at the age of twelve:
1. She is called a "virgin", which is defined as "a young unmarried girl or maiden", as in maided voyage, the first flow, which is around twelve, is it not?
2. Then, God's law: "Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors (the FIRST menses when it is most pure), and of thy firsfborn (the result of that offering): Exodus 22:29).
3. More on God's law: Government "to those who render Him the fruits in their seasons" (Matt. 21:41). Girls come into season around twelve, do they not? Does God's Word offend you?
4. Then Jesus Himself: "And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the (marriage) feast". See, he and all the faithful marry around age twelve. We know for a fact that it was His marriage feast, because Strong's shows that the meaning of "feast" for this very scripture is (1859): "Dar: Of age, adolescent or adult essence, for generation of seed".
Continue Part II
Answer to Objections
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN AND NEITHER WITH STREETS POSTS.
Street let save you the effort.
TEXAS POLYGAMY: Onthestreet's Area
May 22, 2005
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TEXAS POLYGAMY: Please Stand By
Apr 30, 2005
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Hey! Is this electrifying, digitizing, mortifying, public square in a box thingy still alive, swarming, connected, operative, energized, homoginized, vivacious? Does Jimmy still have a pulse.
Well gosh, praise God, he's alive. Jimmy, how can I better serve to properly inform your public (both bloggers)? I do trust you all don't mind me playing with you, like a shark plays with a seal. But I didn't mean for my moral fibulator to shock you Christian take on things. I will try to be more sensitive to you all, and maybe use only a million volts, instead of ten million. Deal?
I must say, I see alot of good in you people, or I wouldn't even bother posting here. Whether you're professed Christian, Mormon (i.e. Christian), government (anti), Mormon Fundamental (i.e. Christian: CP, AUB, Kingston, etc), Kathylick (oops, be sensitive), or if you are full-bore ultra-conservative (Christian), or of an endeavor of faith under other world religions (Taoist, Buddhist, Hindu, Athiest, whathavya), there is so much good and truth there. Just one look at their children, and they are full of faith and hope and beauty.
Nothing prettier than children, some would say inspite of their faith. No, it is because of their faith. So they got that from parents of faith, all originating from one faith since Cain bopped Abel (boink). "Gosh brother, didn't mean to kill ya! Come back. I miss my little playmate".
All faiths consist of crucial elements that are Christian to the tee, including the atonement of a God. They just call Him by a name that is meaningful in their language. Yes, others' beliefs may temporarily shock the ignorant, enough to give us a pulse, that we not die, so that is good. You want a pulse, right? So I'm happy to have energized the Jimmy energizing bunny, so that we can enjoy his company more in this life.
See? On closer look, all faiths are a brotherhood, each one holding some very deep secrets crucial to Christ's atonement, for He is Lord and Creator of ALL, is He not? In many ways, they fit Christianity to a tee, while Christianity in many ways may fail to do so. So, tea anyone? And do NOT offer me beer. I'll drink with you, so long as it is something as lovely and nourishing as a mother's milk, or when the weany is weaned, something herbal or fruity, see?
Let's love each other the world over, to heal the world, and prepare for a heaven on earth, for all hatred and impurity is being swept away for this Nirvana, Camelot, Shangrila, Zion, place of heavenly enchantment and glamour.
I look forward to like replies, godlike.
Street
Silence is certainly one of God's attributes. Thank You. Also love, when we have the gift to speak it. You people are coming along quite nicely.
Answer To Objections - Part II
(Cont. from March 7, 12:01 am)
Virgin Mary, Married at the age of twelve:
5. Bar & Bat Mitzvah is Israel's "Coming of Age Ceremony", marriage at age 12, and the FLDS is of Israel descent. It is also the Christian law or code (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42 etc...). It is common knowledge that America is dominantly and historically a Christian nation. So, this is the law, and anything else is criminal, the restriction and elimination of life, and genocide, and should so be prosecuted, vs the criminal government playbook at overlordsofchaos.com.
6. Now, look up Mitzvah in Strongs (4687), and I quote: "THE LAW", end-quote.
7. Now, look it up in the Greek, which is much more to the point: Mitzvah (marriage at 12), in the Greek is "Speiro", and I quote: "To sow and receive seed", end-quote. VERY TELLING, yes?
8. Everyone knows, including all legislators and judges and other government officials, that this is the law, and therefore they can be prosecuted for violating it, and the citizens can be swept off the land for permitting those crimes, as is now happening with one-third of the nation left in tornado shambles just one week ago. But there is MUCH more, and I shall do a series on "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve", if you'd like.
9. As you can see from item #4 above, even our Lord and Creator married at age 12, to do what? To create, from the purity of the stream at puberty, to fulfill His own right and office as the Creator, according to His own commandments (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc..., and according to the Mitzvah law: "I came NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (Matt. 9:17).
10. "In the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils...forbidding to marry" (I Tim. 4:1-3).
At this point, I will give just a very brief intro to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
1. "Google it: "Twelve is the age of consent". Much to see, including: litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/... (by K. Gonzales 2010, SMU Dedman school of Law and Business Review of the Americas: 16 Law & Bus. Rev. Am. 285.
2. California is the most populous or democratic state in our nation, and the democracy shows the liberalization of marriage, being the most liberal of all. There's not even a residency requirement. You can fly in, get married, and live legally in any other state, or you can just live civilly, with no "legal" marriage at all. Why ask for permission for what is clearly of God, certainly with the FLDS? Divorce "legally", and live civilly, as concenting adults. And now, California has just overturned the Prop. 8 marriage ban. With that, and the no residency requirement, all the other states are wide open to attacks on their marriage laws, as well as the ongoing attacks or acts of God now taking place, for challenging His own right and place to create from a pure stream (adolescence) . The U. S. Supreme Court has also refused to address that openess to attack. It legitimizes polygamy.
Continue Answer to Objections - Part III
Answer To Objections - Part II
(Cont. from March 7, 12:01 am)
Virgin Mary, Married at the age of twelve:
5. Bar & Bat Mitzvah is Israel's "Coming of Age Ceremony", marriage at age 12, and the FLDS is of Israel descent. It is also the Christian law or code (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42 etc...). It is common knowledge that America is dominantly and historically a Christian nation. So, this is the law, and anything else is criminal, the restriction and elimination of life, and genocide, and should so be prosecuted, vs the criminal government playbook at overlordsofchaos.com.
6. Now, look up Mitzvah in Strongs (4687), and I quote: "THE LAW", end-quote.
7. Now, look it up in the Greek, which is much more to the point: Mitzvah (marriage at 12), in the Greek is "Speiro", and I quote: "To sow and receive seed", end-quote. VERY TELLING, yes?
8. Everyone knows, including all legislators and judges and other government officials, that this is the law, and therefore they can be prosecuted for violating it, and the citizens can be swept off the land for permitting those crimes, as is now happening with one-third of the nation left in tornado shambles just one week ago. But there is MUCH more, and I shall do a series on "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve", if you'd like.
9. As you can see from item #4 above, even our Lord and Creator married at age 12, to do what? To create, from the purity of the stream at puberty, to fulfill His own right and office as the Creator, according to His own commandments (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc..., and according to the Mitzvah law: "I came NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (Matt. 9:17).
10. "In the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils...forbidding to marry" (I Tim. 4:1-3).
At this point, I will give just a very brief intro to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
1. "Google it: "Twelve is the age of consent". Much to see, including: litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/... (by K. Gonzales 2010, SMU Dedman school of Law and Business Review of the Americas: 16 Law & Bus. Rev. Am. 285.
2. California is the most populous or democratic state in our nation, and the democracy shows the liberalization of marriage, being the most liberal of all. There's not even a residency requirement. You can fly in, get married, and live legally in any other state, or you can just live civilly, with no "legal" marriage at all. Why ask for permission for what is clearly of God, certainly with the FLDS? Divorce "legally", and live civilly, as concenting adults. And now, California has just overturned the Prop. 8 marriage ban. With that, and the no residency requirement, all the other states are wide open to attacks on their marriage laws, as well as the ongoing attacks or acts of God now taking place, for challenging His own right and place to create from a pure stream (adolescence) . The U. S. Supreme Court has also refused to address that openess to attack. It legitimizes polygamy.
Continue Answer to Objections - Part III
Answer to Objections - Part III
Introduction to: The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve:
3. English common law sets the minimum age for marriage at age twelve for females. Jewish tradition set it at ten. The youngest mother ever was age five. Britain's youngest mum (Teresa Middleton) was preggy at age 11.
4. Age twelve corresponds to the spiral dynamics on human development.
5. OU (Orthodox Union): 61. Age of Consent: Thirteen for men, twelve for girls: jlaw.com/Briefs/tenafly-ou.html. Today's Talmud sets the age for females at 11, and all who descended from Israel have that right to their faith, and the law on marriage. This is emphatically true of a society that restricts ALL sexual relations, siring by artificial insemination, as the FLDS has initiated. Even historically, the FLDS has always restricted sexual relations to marriage only. So, in this light, and with all these facts, the FLDS must be immune or exempt from other laws on marriage, or "the law and the nation still in opposition to God's right to create, and to the rights to life, must face prosecution and acts of God. There is no other alternative.
6. In U. S. law, the age for females was ten (until just 100 years ago), and law as legally defined is: "The regime that orders human activities and relations through systematic application of force" (Black's Law Dictionary). It is the opposite of systematic if you look at the definition of "systematic" "According to a system, regularly organized". It is most unsystematic and irregular if you have all these conflicting laws. In fact, the third definition in my dictionary is: "Regularly organized and done especially for an evil purpose", as in a systematic attack on lasting unchangable laws and rights of humanity to life.
7. Law: A system of rules formed to protect a society; a statement of what ALWAYS occurs, NOT rules to attack that society, and by arbitrary ever-changing and conflicting rules to fit the gross conflicts of interest of an LDS majority leader in Congress and an LDS managed FBI and LDS state-run and influenced governments, to systematically attack their historical arch-enemy, the FLDS Church.
8. The legal age has always traditionally and predominantly been 12, throughout world history, and was recently 10 in the U. S. So, you must be systematic and unchanging of law to protect life, NOT to destroy it, and to continue law, which is "A statement of what ALWAYS occurs", end-quote, or else it is NOT law, but just the opposite, the violation of law to pander to a criminal and special-interest group, at the gross espense of a society, according to the criminal political playbook (overlordsofchaos.com).
9. M. Nid. 5:4 Sanhedrin 7/55B: "A girl three-years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse". Very gross. The FLDS practice is "No sexual relations at all, before marriabe OR after, at ANY age. That's pretty clean! But the Sanhedrin and these other laws and facts of marriage at age 12 or under, is just to clearly show that there is no basis for restricting marriage to 12 and over, that being the natural and Canon law, and historically and predominantly the law of the land.
This is just a very brief outline/introduction to "The Law on Polygamy at Age Twelve". I'll do a series on that, if you'd like.
In Part IV of this Answer to Objections, I will finish addressing the specific objections raised on March 6, at 5:07 pm.
Continue Part IV
Answer to Objections - Part IV
Continuing with the specific objections raised on March 7, 12:01 am:
As I said before (to anonymous in Part I): All this makes it YOU who is mixed up, and very badly.
Furthermore, in your March 6 (5:07 am) objection, you spoke of my explanations of Christ's Blood Atonement, which I will continue in Blood Atonement - Part IV (b), and then in the same breath you said, and I quote: "You were not talking about the atonement of Christ in the small portion that I actually read (10%). So, you didn't even read it, which makes you incompetent to even comment on it. Am I correct? Can you comment on something you've never read, and that you admit you refuse to read? See? All will agree that you cannot do it, being incompetent.
Then, you speak of your intellence as being born again. Ahah. You reject the Word of Christ on something as important as marriage (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc...), and you are born of Christ. See? Can't happen, can it.
"When anyone heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he (or she) which receiveth seed by the wayside" (Matt. 13:19). He also which receiveth seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word, and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful (id. v. 22). "Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown" (Mark 4:15) "making the word of God of none effect through your tradition" (id. 7:13).
But if you were (that is, in fact, born of the word), I would shout out, "Hey Binky, me too, having as you say my emphasis on a deep personal religious experience (but even an orgasm can give people that). If you reject Christ's word, especially on marriage and the creation of souls, your experience is little more than a kind of psychological excitement, see, a devil come as an angel of light to deceive you, having some hokis-pokus that some ministers etc. fed you early on. So having chosen to reject Christ's word on marriage, etc, this makes you subject and worthy of devils, hearers only, thus deceiving your own selves (James 1:22).
It is better to live all your life single and dwell in the Lord, than to be married wrong. Even Christ was sealed in marriage by placement marriage, as we see him at twelve (Luke 2:42) and at thirty (John 2:1), where Jesus as the bridegroom "was called to the wedding". That is placement marriage, as shown by Christ Himself.
The Tree of Life IS the Cross (Gen. 2:9; 3:22; Rev. 2:7) not some hokis-pokus that others fed you early on. Talk about being brain-washed! It is the Ten Commandments, the Ten Offerings, and ALL that Christ spoke and gave of Himself, the parables and correspondences, NOT just His flesh only. You insult Him and His servant, he being far more than just flesh. The Cross is the full tree (M-K) of offerings in ascending degrees, until you reach the tenth: "I commend my spirit unto Thee", the freewill offering (Lev. 22:21; Deut. 16:10; Ezra 3:5, etc.). Without this, ye cannot be born again, for Christ gave ten commandments, offerings, etc. If ten are found, then shall ye be saved (Gen. 24:22).
There! This is your lesson for the day. Now, give your teacher a nice red juicy apple. Oh, yummy!
Street
I will offer a conclusion in Part V.
Continue Part V
I want you people to be righteous (M-K), and not just goody-goody two-shoes (M).
Answer to Objections - Part V
Conclusion
I will conclude be explaining the last quotes of Part IV, and note how this ties into the answers to these objections and the blood atonement, that a minion of ten (keys, offerings, dimensions, perfect men) is required to be born again, or to be atoned and redeemed:
"If ten be found" in thee, and in all of creation of descent (K-M), and in the atonement of that creation in the ascent (M-K), then "I will not destroy it for ten's sake" (Gen. 18:32).
In the spiritual unions of the FLDS (those that indeed sow only to the spirit, and NEVER to the flesh), the two light earings are symbolic of the two arch-cherubim of light, the Father and the Son (Gen. 24:22). The two bracelets are the two braces or columns of all creation, Jachin and Boaz (1 Kings 7:21). The ten gold shekels are the ten minion sefirot, the full law, with the three veiled mothers/wives, plus twenty-four, including five which are used by the true eternal Priesthood to seal. All are sealed by Holy Spirit of the Father in the Sanctuary (T), whose correspondent metal and color are pure gold, refined in seven phases. Thus the "ten gold shekels", all unified, atoned, redeemed, or reborn in One.
If ye are not so constituted of the full Tree or Cross, nor keep the full law, every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God (including multiple spiritual unions at twelve, NOT physical or sexual unions), and if ye do not prune that tree (Matt. 10:34), then it dies and ye are NOT born again. Ye hath broken ALL of the branches and commandments (Matt. 5:19). So you as re certainly not born again, having been aborted, unborn, cut off, of the spirit which is life (Gal. 6:8). Ye are cut off from the light or word of Christ by your own choice, having rejected His word and light on the purity of life from the source of the stream at twelve (Exodus 22:29; Matt. 21:41; Luke 2:42, etc...). By rejecting life, ye are not born, nor saved, in the Kingdom of God, by your own choice. So this is your style of (self) murder or blood atonement, a taker of life, committed by none other than yourself, what you have been accusing givers of life (the FLDS) of doing.
The blood atonement of Christ is universal, to resurrect all, but to resurrect to what? To judgment, just as Christ says (Matt. 5:21; 7:2; 12:36, etc...). By restricting life, or marriage, or by supporting the law of the land which mass-murders little children, you kill. Again Matt. 5:21: "Whosoever shall kill, or even be angry with a brother or neighbor, shall be in danger of the judgment".
Christ restricts all sexual relations, even in conception (Gal. 6:8; Matt. 5:28), for none other than virgins will be redeemed or born again (Rev. 14:4). The FLDS is thus purifying a remnant (Isaiah 1:9; Zech. 8:12). Rev. 12:17, for this very thing, in likewise restricting all sexual relations, and by casting out all opposing kin like Christ says (Matt. 10:34), the wave-offering (Exodus 29:24; Acts 21:26), for a pure and prepared people to redeem Zion (Zech. 8:3).
So, do you still want to speak of "hypocritical and idolotrous and disgusting FLDS persons who rail against those who obey the law of the land", the law of the mass-murder and kidnapping of millions of little children, and even preventing their birth? Then you speak of how confused you are. Little wonder, Stevie!
Finally, you say to me: "You are obviously in your right mind". So which is it, hypocritical, idolotrous, and disgusting, or in our right mind? We understand your confusion, and will pray for you. Meanwhile, perhaps feralfem will give you milk instead of meat (Heb. 5:12). Good luck.
Now, for you ladies who wear the pants, your balls are fun to play with if ya had any: Basketball, baseball, pingpong, even balls of yarn. Butt-darn for you, sports are a gross distraction from the redemption, and that's the truth. You got that, sport? We work out our salvation, not play it out, and that is infinitely and eternally more fun. So quicha playing around, and don't play in the street.
Street
Please block Street. You are losing readers and commenters due to his vulgar and inappropriate ramblings.
belated reply to street the lunatic for his march 11 drivel-- you are in your right mind enough to verbosely insult others and frankly, even God Himself constantly, by misusing His word. And you string together outrageous and derogatory remarks, which takes a few brain cells..but the rest of the time (most of it, that is) you are not at all in your right mind. I am certain you have no prayers that the LORD would ever listen to, street. At least not while you are in such a mental and spiritual morass of filth mixed with misused Scripture. So don't waste your time... but then again, since all that time seems spent worthlessly anyway, maybe you should do whatever praying you think best. I am certain your "praying" is total blasphemy anyway, probably similar to your disgraceful diatribes online. This should hopefully help bring your disgraceful life to an end sooner than later, one can only hope. God doesn't suffer those forever such as yourself, who are clearly destined for the lowest and harshest places of His universe.
Wow STREET !!! What a flipping mess You are! I pray (somehow) you get 'TURNED ON' to the TRUTH cause you surely are far far far far far far far OFF the mark. GOD IS LOVE, LIGHT & TRUTH -- I see NONE of that here at all....
You do in fact have the right to YOUR opinions, but with what you've stated, if I were an LDS or an FLDS member or even any type of MORMON........ I would (run) RRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN as hard as I could in the opposite direction. YOU SCARE ME!!! SORRY, BUT THAT IS A FACT !!!
STREET: If YOU are going to continue to post in public forums, PLEASE,,, at least do it with some kind of dignity!!! I know you think you are having fun and all, but your writing style is VERY REPULSIVE to ANY reader. I have to ask myself .... WHY ??? What point or points is this guy trying to make? Are you ANGRY at someone??? Maybe your DAD, your MOM............ or..... your CHURCH ? Go ahead and express yourself a bit more .......... I'm praying for you Bro .....................
STREET: I am sorry you are an angry pedophile. Quoting scripture completely out of context---your desperate to validate your sick fantasies. This drivel isn't for others---you know your sick and a patchwork quilt of scripture & mormon fiction is the only way you can live with yourself.
LUKE 2:42 has nothing to do with placement marriage @12.
The passage refers to the Feast of Passover
JOHN 2:1 isn't jesus' wedding. He & the deciples were invited there. It's about the miracle of turning water into wine.
SERIOUSLY, You affect no one---it's just you.
I am of the opinion that you are of the opinion that the opinion of others is just their opinion. That's just my opinion, and so states La Paloma.
ur so gross...im apolygamist wife and mother and would neve let u around my kids...sickening....u r what gives us a bad name
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