FLDS Prophet Warren Jeffs may be serving life in prison, but his followers continue with their work on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas where the group's white limestone Temple towers over the town they are building. Polygamy, the practice of plural marriage, appears to be alive and well in the Lone Star State, despite laws to the contrary.
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Bikers in Colorado City
I saw a bit on KCSG tv St George, that B.A.C.A (bikers against child abuse)had over a hundred bikers go thru Colorado City last weekend. Did anyone talk to them, or did any of the faithful think the end was there?
B.A.C.A has been planning this for a long time and there will be another soon with a lot more bikes. This time they are going to take the grand tour of the town.
I was a personal witness to the prayer of destruction for Jason Williams. All others are merely rumors as far as I am concerned, but others may have witnessed it first hand, so it isn't rumor to them. I believe Warren is still having fast days and praying for other people's death. Warren has had an irrational and personal vendetta against nintendo's husband for years.
This is not the first time BACA have been involved in a case related to a criminal polygamist. They also were involved with search for Brian David Mitchell, a polygamist who kidnapped a 14 year old girl as a "wife" in Salt Lake City, Utah. BACA is a fairly large motorcycle gang with chapters through out the USA.
The BACA motorcycle gang may have shown up in Colorado City/Hildale, but a worse problem for the FLDS maybe happening in Texas, the TAXMAN cometh. The Eldorado Success reported that the taxable value of YFZ was 18 million dollars, and the "temple" was worth 8 million by itself. Under Texas law, taxes will become due in October with a payment deadline of 31 January. If FLDS dosen't come up with money by January 31, they could faced with the sheriff selling the YFZ property for taxes from the steps of the county courthouse. Texas Tax Rules
Nintendo was smarting off; I called her up and she admitted to being facetious. However, destruction prayers have been a reality for various "apostates."
Thats the law in TX, like or leave it. (preferrably the latter) I am sure Schleicher County would just love to have the temple as their new courthouse.
I would think that they would pay, it certainly wouldn't be worth losing an investment that valuable.
Initially when I sent my children to private schools, I was all disgruntled about paying taxes for schools.
I'm a convert, I see the value - beyond my own check register, of making sure that children (not just mine) receive a good education, have access to technology, and can pay good teachers a competitive salary.
My children attend public school now - I've been really pleased at the academic opportunities. It wasn't the den of iniquity I thought I would find, but it does have more exposure to negative effects of difficult home situations and troubled children. I don't see those as necessarily negative if I've done my job as a parent.
Thus far, crossing my fingers, my children have not been attracted to unsavory situations - in fact, the opposite has happened. My kids have been able to see behaviors and actions that have negative consequences and found social networks (thus far) that support positive behaviors.
I always say 'thus far', because I want to be ever vigilant, and live in reality. As much as I want for my children to make the best choices, they might make mistakes - and I never want to be naive enough to believe it 'would never happen to them'.
I doubt that the prophet ever broke a sweat in his life to make a living. He is a leach that lives off the blood of his followers. Eldorado is going to turn the temple into a casino when they do not pay their taxes. There has to be an Indian somewhere in the county. Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony?
Nah. The taxes will get paid. Same way the joint got built in the first place; the hard work, sweat and tears of the innocent "faithful" of the creek. Warren has extrapolated 18 mil from these poor people already. Why would he balk at a measly 450 thou? He's got a good thing goin. Why stop now?
Speaking of YFZ & Eldorado, Texas, here's a news story from a Houston, TX TV station. Eldorado-Uneasy Peace
And here are some neat pictures with one of FLDS members photographed at Schleicher County Tax Office: Eldorado Photos
Article qoutes Eldorado Baptist Church members want to "She and the other teachers jokingly daydream of flying over the compound and dropping pamphlets for the women and children to read, coaxing them into the arms of First Baptist."
Also the pilot gave a ride to one of FLDS members to see YFZ from the air.
Taxes in Texas are due on January 31. A grace period is allowed, but a very stiff penalty, per month, is assessed and added to the total tax bill. If the taxes plus penalty are not paid within a specified time frome, the property can be sold on the courthouse steps for taxes due. The entire property, belonging to YFZ Ranch Cooperation is subject to this law. This not only includes the temple, but all dwellings, out buildings, plants, factories, barns, livestock, harvested and unharvested crops fields, the land, all vehicles and equipment.
The only way for avoidance of taxes on the "Temple" building is to declare it a place of public worship and open it as such to the public. If not open to the public, it is considered as being privately held and as such is therefore considered as taxable property.
The smart thing to do is to pay the taxes, on time.
Not only are FLDS members in Texas dealing with taxes, members in Colorado City,AZ/Hildale,UT are also having to face the taxman, eviction notices for unpaid taxes have been issued to James Zitting & William Shapley. Bruce Wisan has been busy. Taxmn Cometh!
What about those who paid taxes when Warren's men came around to collect, but the money never got to the county? I know of at least one person who paid taxes, complaining that the taxes were extremely high - back before Wisan was even heard of. I got the impression that they were being harrassed by Wisan for not paying taxes.
I'm glad you agree the environment's a mess. Let's clean it up before we increase population of the Earth 1000 fold, like you keep telling us is possible.
my guess is that not many of the faithful saw the bikers, they were all in their houses praying that Isaac and Andrew would keel over dead
ReplyDeleteI was gone the day that was suposed to happen. How did it go?
ReplyDeleteB.A.C.A has been planning this for a long time and there will be another soon with a lot more bikes. This time they are going to take the grand tour of the town.
ReplyDeleteShame on you nintendo.
ReplyDeletePerfect people don't stoop that low do they?
I was a personal witness to the prayer of destruction for Jason Williams. All others are merely rumors as far as I am concerned, but others may have witnessed it first hand, so it isn't rumor to them. I believe Warren is still having fast days and praying for other people's death. Warren has had an irrational and personal vendetta against nintendo's husband for years.
ReplyDeleteHow is Jason Williams these days?
ReplyDeleteWhy were they praying for the destruction of Isaac, Andrew, and Jason? Anything special about them?
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first time BACA have been involved in a case related to a criminal polygamist. They also were involved with search for Brian David Mitchell, a polygamist who kidnapped a 14 year old girl as a "wife" in Salt Lake City, Utah. BACA is a fairly large motorcycle gang with chapters through out the USA.
ReplyDeleteHere's their website: BACA Website
BACA can bring in thousands of bikers if the choose from around the USA.
The BACA motorcycle gang may have shown up in Colorado City/Hildale, but a worse problem for the FLDS maybe happening in Texas, the TAXMAN cometh. The Eldorado Success reported that the taxable value of YFZ was 18 million dollars, and the "temple" was worth 8 million by itself. Under Texas law, taxes will become due in October with a payment deadline of 31 January. If FLDS dosen't come up with money by January 31, they could faced with the sheriff selling the YFZ property for taxes from the steps of the county courthouse. Texas Tax Rules
ReplyDeleteNintendo was smarting off; I called her up and she admitted to being facetious. However, destruction prayers have been a reality for various "apostates."
ReplyDeleteWhat would be the tax burden in Texas on something worth 18 million?
ReplyDeleteJust curious
Atari,
ReplyDeleteAbout 450k. Front page of Eldorado Success.
That's a mighty generous contribution to the local schools, coming from an outfit that doesn't send anybody to the local schools.
ReplyDeleteThats the law in TX, like or leave it. (preferrably the latter) I am sure Schleicher County would just love to have the temple as their new courthouse.
ReplyDeleteI would think that they would pay, it certainly wouldn't be worth losing an investment that valuable.
ReplyDeleteInitially when I sent my children to private schools, I was all disgruntled about paying taxes for schools.
I'm a convert, I see the value - beyond my own check register, of making sure that children (not just mine) receive a good education, have access to technology, and can pay good teachers a competitive salary.
My children attend public school now - I've been really pleased at the academic opportunities. It wasn't the den of iniquity I thought I would find, but it does have more exposure to negative effects of difficult home situations and troubled children. I don't see those as necessarily negative if I've done my job as a parent.
Thus far, crossing my fingers, my children have not been attracted to unsavory situations - in fact, the opposite has happened. My kids have been able to see behaviors and actions that have negative consequences and found social networks (thus far) that support positive behaviors.
I always say 'thus far', because I want to be ever vigilant, and live in reality. As much as I want for my children to make the best choices, they might make mistakes - and I never want to be naive enough to believe it 'would never happen to them'.
Anyhow - that was sure a schpeel (rant).
OK, back to taxes. I yield the floor.
I doubt that the prophet ever broke a sweat in his life to make a living. He is a leach that lives off the blood of his followers. Eldorado is going to turn the temple into a casino when they do not pay their taxes. There has to be an Indian somewhere in the county. Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony?
ReplyDeleteNah. The taxes will get paid. Same way the joint got built in the first place; the hard work, sweat and tears of the innocent "faithful" of the creek. Warren has extrapolated 18 mil from these poor people already. Why would he balk at a measly 450 thou? He's got a good thing goin. Why stop now?
ReplyDeleteummm ... extrapolated?
ReplyDeleteI think you meant "extorted."
Hope that the BACA motorcyclye gang comes back with thousands of bikers, wouldn't that be fun. :)
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of YFZ & Eldorado, Texas, here's a news story from a Houston, TX TV station. Eldorado-Uneasy Peace
ReplyDeleteAnd here are some neat pictures with one of FLDS members photographed at Schleicher County Tax Office: Eldorado Photos
Article qoutes Eldorado Baptist Church members want to "She and the other teachers jokingly daydream of flying over the compound and dropping pamphlets for the women and children to read, coaxing them into the arms of First Baptist."
Also the pilot gave a ride to one of FLDS members to see YFZ from the air.
Taxes in Texas are due on January 31. A grace period is allowed, but a very stiff penalty, per month, is assessed and added to the total tax bill. If the taxes plus penalty are not paid within a specified time frome, the property can be sold on the courthouse steps for taxes due. The entire property, belonging to YFZ Ranch Cooperation is subject to this law. This not only includes the temple, but all dwellings, out buildings, plants, factories, barns, livestock, harvested and unharvested crops fields, the land, all vehicles and equipment.
ReplyDeleteThe only way for avoidance of taxes on the "Temple" building is to declare it a place of public worship and open it as such to the public. If not open to the public, it is considered as being privately held and as such is therefore considered as taxable property.
The smart thing to do is to pay the taxes, on time.
rcn
Not only are FLDS members in Texas dealing with taxes, members in Colorado City,AZ/Hildale,UT are also having to face the taxman, eviction notices for unpaid taxes have been issued to James Zitting & William Shapley. Bruce Wisan has been busy. Taxmn Cometh!
ReplyDeleteRead more about Bruce Wisan efforts to get taxes paid: http://www.ueptrust.com/
What about those who paid taxes when Warren's men came around to collect, but the money never got to the county? I know of at least one person who paid taxes, complaining that the taxes were extremely high - back before Wisan was even heard of. I got the impression that they were being harrassed by Wisan for not paying taxes.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you agree the environment's a mess. Let's clean it up before we increase population of the Earth 1000 fold, like you keep telling us is possible.
ReplyDelete