tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post7817599032311176584..comments2023-10-29T16:28:32.158-05:00Comments on TEXAS POLYGAMY: Cops Raid YFZweblog administratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235229368378151618noreply@blogger.comBlogger209125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-29378502451265965002008-05-03T21:02:00.000-05:002008-05-03T21:02:00.000-05:00Maybe you haven't noticed, but the state of Texas ...Maybe you haven't noticed, but the state of Texas CANCELED their warrant for Dale Evans Barlow. They say it is "No longer active" and are too embarrassed to say exactly when they did that.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile custody hearings are scheduled to end June 5th, and Rozita Swinton is going to get to go to the Colorado Democratic State Convention and is out on her own. Her first court appearance has Hugh McBrydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16926516260588481185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-11735368581459418232008-04-29T20:19:00.000-05:002008-04-29T20:19:00.000-05:00George,I believe my grammar could be way worse. An...George,<BR/><BR/>I believe my grammar could be way worse. And I never claimed that I was a writer. But thanks for your input. I never claimed once to have a degree in the English language. And perhaps I made a couple of spelling mistakes. But if that's what you choose to pick out about my post, then more power to you.<BR/><BR/>I also never claimed that everyone accused of abuse is automatically Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-85477459190412625712008-04-29T19:39:00.000-05:002008-04-29T19:39:00.000-05:00Amanda,I may be naive, but at least I can spell an...Amanda,<BR/><BR/>I may be naive, but at least I can spell and use proper grammar.<BR/><BR/>I have been able to detach from my personal feelings about this group's lifestyle in order to be able to see the big picture.<BR/><BR/>I suggest you would be well served in doing the same. Just because you were abused does not mean that every person who has ever been accused of abuse is automatically George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-54377993883046010842008-04-29T19:35:00.000-05:002008-04-29T19:35:00.000-05:00Adult Bride,I am not really sure how you can accus...Adult Bride,<BR/><BR/>I am not really sure how you can accuse me of monopolizing a conversation, as I often go days without saying anything.<BR/><BR/>I'm also a little confused how you can agree with me or disagree with me when, by your own admission, you skip through most of my entries.<BR/><BR/>Out of the two of us, I am not the one ranting. I am simply trying to point out to everyone that if George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-65516350623705660592008-04-28T22:22:00.000-05:002008-04-28T22:22:00.000-05:00George Dewey,I was not shocked to find out that yo...George Dewey,<BR/>I was not shocked to find out that you have no knowledge of this group until the recent stories came to light. I was not impressed by your childhood story, as it has absolutely no relevence to this case whatsoever. I have been following this group since they moved to Texas and have been listening to bloggers (key word:listening). <BR/><BR/>I called Hildebran on the phone and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-22104430847731746442008-04-28T20:22:00.000-05:002008-04-28T20:22:00.000-05:00George,Obviously you have never been in an abusive...George,<BR/><BR/>Obviously you have never been in an abusive situation. If you ever had, you would know that interviewing children and talking to family members within their own surroundings does not really provide for ANY abuse victim to open up. WHEN I was abused as a child, if you would have asked me if I was or am being abused in my grandfather's house (yes it was my grandfather that abused Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-59862267524723224262008-04-24T20:37:00.000-05:002008-04-24T20:37:00.000-05:00The usual standard for removing a child from a hom...The usual standard for removing a child from a home is that of "immediate harm." In a <B>non-political scenario</B>, if an allegation can be substantiated to a degree which shows that the child faces immediate danger, the court will grant temporary custody to the state. If things are "bad" but the child does not face immediate danger, the court will not remove the child, but DCS will Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-18442792462736489092008-04-23T01:11:00.000-05:002008-04-23T01:11:00.000-05:00"What do you think about the reassigning of wives ..."What do you think about the reassigning of wives and children by the group's leadership over the past few years? What happened to the husbands' rights to raise their children with their wives? What about the childrens' rights to know who their father is? How about the wives being forced into a new marriage with a new husband, who has a the same rights over her that her old one had (including George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-727894260697427612008-04-23T01:07:00.000-05:002008-04-23T01:07:00.000-05:00Native Texan,Again, this situation "not being a no...Native Texan,<BR/><BR/>Again, this situation "not being a normal situation", as you put it, is only more of "end justifies the means". This is exactly the kind of mentality which lawmakers were banking on in hopes of pulling off this illegal raid.<BR/><BR/>As far as the foster care goes, the CPS's own psychiatrist testified that traditional foster care would traumatize these children. The George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-92210739498589159072008-04-22T23:53:00.000-05:002008-04-22T23:53:00.000-05:00Native Texan,The divorce stats in this country, as...Native Texan,<BR/><BR/>The divorce stats in this country, as well as the confused children who end up with several sets of step-parents and step-siblings (who also then leave their lives) would be a reason to consider polygamy.<BR/><BR/>What's worse? Polygamy practiced responsibly (not saying FLDS does or does not do that) or serial monogamy (which is inherently practiced poorly)?<BR/><BR/>But, George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-44933963165670597412008-04-22T23:28:00.000-05:002008-04-22T23:28:00.000-05:00George, By the way, you mentioned in an earlier po...George, <BR/><BR/>By the way, you mentioned in an earlier post that polygamy should be legalized and men required to financially support any children they help bring into the world.<BR/><BR/>Aren't men who bring children into the world already required by law to financially support children they bring into this world?<BR/><BR/>What you're not grasping is the blatant disregard and disdain many of rickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-68002296902740251012008-04-22T23:22:00.000-05:002008-04-22T23:22:00.000-05:00George, As to your question about why they couldn'...George, <BR/><BR/>As to your question about why they couldn't take their time and do a thorough investigation I have two words for you: FLIGHT RISK.<BR/><BR/>The FLDS leaders have deceived Texas authorities again and again over the last few years and have lost all trust. This is not a normal situation as much as you would like to believe it is.<BR/><BR/>What is your problem with foster care? Irickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-78057616173001680232008-04-21T09:19:00.000-05:002008-04-21T09:19:00.000-05:00George,You have a very strong opinion about what t...George,<BR/><BR/>You have a very strong opinion about what the government is doing here and I respect that. Again, I am for less government intervention in our lives. I do feel that your opinion lacks well-rounded information, particularly about the FLDS.<BR/><BR/>With all the DNA testing that's being done this week, we have a lot more to think (and talk) about.<BR/><BR/>What do you think aboutrickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-50856534077230197212008-04-20T22:21:00.000-05:002008-04-20T22:21:00.000-05:00George,Considering the divorce stats in this count...George,<BR/><BR/>Considering the divorce stats in this country, do you think allowing more marriage would be good? These folks in the FLDS generally stay together because they have an eternal stake in their position in the marriage. If you take out that element, can you imagine how confusing it would be to the children with all the adults coming and going?<BR/><BR/>Also, outside of religious rickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-79534444455672152932008-04-20T20:47:00.000-05:002008-04-20T20:47:00.000-05:00Native Texan,With regards to the summation of your...Native Texan,<BR/><BR/>With regards to the summation of your position, "I understand what you're saying about the government's intrusion into our private lives, I just don't think you can compare their lives side by side with your's", that's the very stance which has gotten us into trouble and the faux "authority" which the State is using to abuse it's power.<BR/><BR/>I don't think there is one George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-35139939661044717072008-04-20T19:28:00.000-05:002008-04-20T19:28:00.000-05:00Native TexanThanks for clarifying. I expected you...Native Texan<BR/><BR/>Thanks for clarifying. I expected your response to be something like it was. Like I said I don't disagree with much of what you say but the way it was worded sounded different than what you have posted in the past. I have appreciated the dialogue and hope to continue it!<BR/><BR/>Anon 12:31<BR/><BR/>I wonder what you have reference to. I have not read Banking on Heaven fttchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16322998105598110512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-68910290735127827692008-04-20T17:09:00.000-05:002008-04-20T17:09:00.000-05:00It is unlawful for a man to have more than one leg...It is unlawful for a man to have more than one legal wife, just as it is unlawful for a woman to have more than one legal husband.<BR/><BR/>The "loophole" is that, in these polygamous communities, the men do not legally wed more than one wife. They have religious marriages. They take religious vows. These are not legally binding.<BR/><BR/>If you want to end the abuses, then we, as a society, George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-74614416430842041342008-04-20T16:57:00.000-05:002008-04-20T16:57:00.000-05:00George,I'm glad your neighbor was vindicated. Hop...George,<BR/><BR/>I'm glad your neighbor was vindicated. Hopefully those who are innocent will be upheld in this case too.<BR/><BR/>I don't agree with the comparison that your whole neighborhood could have been raided. <BR/><BR/>Do most of you live in just a few large houses? Do many of you eat together every night? Do the wives in your neighborhood share in childcare, homemaking, and schoolingrickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-66970696213147566072008-04-20T14:31:00.000-05:002008-04-20T14:31:00.000-05:00Why are corrupt polygamous cults given tax exempt ...Why are corrupt polygamous cults given tax exempt status? Polygamy is illegal (a felony). Americans should demand that their religious tax exemption be stripped away. It's simply OUTRAGEOUS!<BR/><BR/>Senator Linda Binder talks about this in the documentary film, BANKING ON HEAVEN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-66311582693110358242008-04-20T12:44:00.000-05:002008-04-20T12:44:00.000-05:00No, actually, I'm not FLDS. I actually wasn't eve...No, actually, I'm not FLDS. I actually wasn't even aware of this compound's existence until this news story came out. <BR/><BR/>I am simply very, very concerned about the government's continued expansion of power and intrusion into our private lives.<BR/><BR/>The closest I can come to relating to this story, personally, is that a former neighbor of mine was once accused of sexual child abuse.George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-19032063051272249442008-04-20T10:37:00.000-05:002008-04-20T10:37:00.000-05:00Dear george dewey and fttc,I'm sorry if my comment...Dear george dewey and fttc,<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry if my comments about integrating the children into the outside world came across as self-righteous. I don't think that pulling all 400 some odd of them out of there permanantly is the solution, because I don't believe they're all being mistreated.<BR/><BR/>The state of Texas had a responsibility to follow up on the call they received from this "rickelchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12710259200920800493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-17693548803121651612008-04-20T01:10:00.000-05:002008-04-20T01:10:00.000-05:00Someone sent me the official international definit...Someone sent me the official international definition of genocide. Here are the pieces which leapt out at me:<BR/><BR/>the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"<BR/><BR/>(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; <BR/><BR/>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-61463462217125986812008-04-20T01:06:00.001-05:002008-04-20T01:06:00.001-05:00Anonymous #2, Anonymous #3, and Native Texan,I thi...Anonymous #2, Anonymous #3, and Native Texan,<BR/><BR/>I think the real issue is that I am the only one (between the 3 of you and me) who actually IS looking at this from all angles. The three of you are all assuming that all of these people are guilty. Right or wrong, you do need to remember that this is the United States of America, which is supposed to be a free country. The three of you George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-14406512995508328132008-04-20T01:06:00.000-05:002008-04-20T01:06:00.000-05:00Anonymous #2, Anonymous #3, and Native Texan,I thi...Anonymous #2, Anonymous #3, and Native Texan,<BR/><BR/>I think the real issue is that I am the only one (between the 3 of you and me) who actually IS looking at this from all angles. The three of you are all assuming that all of these people are guilty. Right or wrong, you do need to remember that this is the United States of America, which is supposed to be a free country. The three of you George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-39829779259336340212008-04-20T00:33:00.000-05:002008-04-20T00:33:00.000-05:00fttc,Thank you very much. I couldn't have said it...fttc,<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much. I couldn't have said it better myself.George Deweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238870965802766815noreply@blogger.com