tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post115800704337444200..comments2023-10-29T16:28:32.158-05:00Comments on TEXAS POLYGAMY: Remembering September 11thweblog administratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235229368378151618noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1160608257796456212006-10-11T18:10:00.000-05:002006-10-11T18:10:00.000-05:00according to all the major news sources, a smal si...according to all the major news sources, a smal single engine airplane veered off course and crashed into a high-rise apartment building on 72nd. (Avenue or street is not the important issue here.) This event supposedly occurred at 2:29 P.M. EDT today, October 11, 2006. Did this event really happen or was it part of a diabolical CIA plot to rid the universe of left handed Martians?<BR/><BR/>Twomuggseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714129963064045274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159848576849856962006-10-02T23:09:00.000-05:002006-10-02T23:09:00.000-05:00ctr, you are right, there are two sides to every s...ctr, you are right, there are two sides to every story, thank you for sharing yours. As I heard it once said, "there are two sides to every story, and then there is the truth."...... don't get me wrong, I am not saying anyone is lying, we just all see and relate things from our own point of view. Once again, thanks to all who share their points of view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159831491940199312006-10-02T18:24:00.000-05:002006-10-02T18:24:00.000-05:00Look back in the earlier post on this thread. The...Look back in the earlier post on this thread. The aimoo blog is very hostile, and atar_i was warned what not to talk about. If you are the least bit friendly towards the FLDS or Mormons on the aimoo blog, you will be thrashed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159829105130640752006-10-02T17:45:00.000-05:002006-10-02T17:45:00.000-05:0012:35,I understand your first sentence. Couldyouc...12:35,<BR/><BR/>I understand your first sentence. <BR/><BR/>Couldyouclarifywhatyousaidinyoursecondparagraph? Please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159810511896240902006-10-02T12:35:00.000-05:002006-10-02T12:35:00.000-05:00CTR--Atar_i started this thread, not Fundy; he can...CTR--<BR/>Atar_i started this thread, not Fundy; he can't delete it.<BR/><BR/>The list of how to get along with the aimoo blog. Add #4--don't let anyone know a Mormon has treated you right; more especially, don't let even this blog or the aimoo blog know if an FLDS member treated you right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159742492527232372006-10-01T17:41:00.000-05:002006-10-01T17:41:00.000-05:00CTR - I never had it in my heart to hate the leade...CTR - I never had it in my heart to hate the leaders either. Despite everything, I never did. I didn't respect them, or revere them anymore, but I didn't hate them.<BR/><BR/>I don't know warren, so I have no natural feelings of affection for him. Nothing you have done has affected my feelings about him one way or the other, lest you be worried about that.<BR/><BR/>The people who have affected ATAR_ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10883525547158688152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159740199048011412006-10-01T17:03:00.000-05:002006-10-01T17:03:00.000-05:00Where is Fundy when you need him to delete a threa...Where is Fundy when you need him to delete a thread?<BR/><BR/>FOOLISH, and SORRY is how I feel.<BR/><BR/><B>IF WHAT I HAVE SAID HAS GIVEN ANYONE REASON TO HATE WARREN JEFFS MORE, SHAME ON ME!</B><BR/><BR/>Warren Jeffs is innocent. My wife was innocent. I am the one who was not. I can not REQUIRE anyone to forgive me, I am not God. I forgive ALL!<BR/><BR/>I will NOT share in your hatred of Warren Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159645407915133222006-09-30T14:43:00.000-05:002006-09-30T14:43:00.000-05:00CTRGod Bless You.CTR you are a thinking person, I ...CTR<BR/>God Bless You.<BR/><BR/>CTR you are a thinking person, I do not know what sin has separated you from your wife and children. I gather from your above post you choose to not to cause conflict when ask to leave by warren. <BR/><BR/>CTR all mankind are sinners. But, God wants all mankind to love Him, and he provided Christ to be the open door.<BR/><BR/>Do you really believe in Jesus?<BR/><BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159627961871511162006-09-30T09:52:00.000-05:002006-09-30T09:52:00.000-05:00CTR I had no idea you went through that. How extr...CTR I had no idea you went through that. How extremely painful, I feel really hideous about how glibly I have made statements that must have been so painful to you.<BR/><BR/>I agree with 10:09 above and yourself, I'm embarrassed by some of the statements I have made as well, and I ask you guys to forgive me for not treating everyone on the board with respect.ATAR_ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10883525547158688152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159592178467597952006-09-29T23:56:00.000-05:002006-09-29T23:56:00.000-05:00Back on TopicBack on <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6986678451215563453&q=one+nation+under&hl=en" REL="nofollow">Topic</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159585790822615592006-09-29T22:09:00.000-05:002006-09-29T22:09:00.000-05:00CTRI said I was leaving this thread alone now, but...CTR<BR/><BR/>I said I was leaving this thread alone now, but I must ask forgiveness for being overly harsh and getting into a flame war. I don't know why I sometimes get this way. Now, let's see, whose fault it is... Oh yeah, somehow it's ... fault. <BR/><BR/>I am also finding out that everywhere you turn, you can find problems. I think from your viewpoint, you see things different than me. <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159584623623326092006-09-29T21:50:00.000-05:002006-09-29T21:50:00.000-05:00anon 8:29 PM-To be honest, it pains me that I said...anon 8:29 PM-<BR/>To be honest, it pains me that I said that to IITMOC also. I actually had tears in my eyes when I wrote it. If I could take it back I would. But I was sad in a much different way than you think. I felt sad for him AND his wife, because of his apostacy, not because of the possibilty of losing his family.<BR/><BR/>I AM sad to see families broken apart. I AM devastated that my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159584358179369682006-09-29T21:45:00.000-05:002006-09-29T21:45:00.000-05:00My cover is blown - I can never post there again. ...My cover is blown - I can never post there again. Not that I really want to, I tend to be more moderate, and despite all, this is a fairly moderate board.<BR/><BR/>CTR, initially I came to learn, I was drawn here because I lived a similar experience, and I understand more than you realize. <BR/><BR/>My whole life I spent defending my way of living against all the other people who thought I was ATAR_ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10883525547158688152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159582252291075612006-09-29T21:10:00.000-05:002006-09-29T21:10:00.000-05:00Atar_iIt's real easy to get along with the people ...Atar_i<BR/><BR/>It's real easy to get along with the people at the aimoo blog. Just follow these simple rules.<BR/><BR/>(1) Don't let them know you believe in God.<BR/><BR/>(2) Don't let them know you're Republican (I don't know whether you are or not)<BR/><BR/>(3) Don't let them know you have more than two children.<BR/><BR/>If you believe any of these things are right, keep it to yourself whenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159581186094599442006-09-29T20:53:00.000-05:002006-09-29T20:53:00.000-05:00I admit I was not complete in my statement of: "Fa...I admit I was not complete in my statement of: "Families separate because someone CHOSE to do what they KNEW was WRONG." That can mean two things. <BR/><BR/>1. One has done something they personally knew was wrong. (like me)<BR/>2. One has done something the other knew was wrong. (like in your example of the man and his wife)<BR/><BR/>CTR<BR/><BR/><BR/>Atari-<BR/>I appreciate your comments. But Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159580754267693192006-09-29T20:45:00.000-05:002006-09-29T20:45:00.000-05:00Don't try to tell me the FLDS don't force others! ...Don't try to tell me the FLDS don't force others! Maybe not gentiles, but when a person tries to leave a cult, there is coercion.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, the FLDS are violating Grandfather laws where fathers aren't allowed to see their children's children.<BR/><BR/>Shunning is a type of force. There are more forces in the universe than physical force. Magnetic forces are powerful enough to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159579783015020592006-09-29T20:29:00.000-05:002006-09-29T20:29:00.000-05:00I'm no longer threatened, but a man that won't def...I'm no longer threatened, but a man that won't defend a family and allow hyenas in his home behind-his-back is not worthy of the title of Man. He is a puscillanimous coward, effeminate, wimpy, and not worthy of his Y chromosome. I was trying to get you to quit living in Egypt by de Nile. If you must know, she was done with the cult before I was, but I still question her ability to stand up if Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159577365869677702006-09-29T19:49:00.000-05:002006-09-29T19:49:00.000-05:00CTR - I know what it's like to be stoned on a blog...CTR - I know what it's like to be stoned on a blog. Believe it or not, I went to the aimoo blog and had a good thrashing.<BR/><BR/>To them, I was brainwashed, uneducated and everything I said was garbage.<BR/><BR/>They didn't listen to me, they didn't understand me, it was frustrating, and I left.<BR/><BR/>You're probably a really decent fellow, you treat your wife and your family nice, and ATAR_ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10883525547158688152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159576721248951672006-09-29T19:38:00.000-05:002006-09-29T19:38:00.000-05:00I honestly had no idea "behind the back" as you ca...I honestly had no idea "behind the back" as you call it, was going on. If that makes me less credible, so be it. I think that if your wife agreed with you, you wouldn't feel threatened by "the goons" (probably her parents)at all anyway.<BR/><BR/>"Religious convictions where both side KNOW they are right can be ugly."<BR/>This is only true if either religion tries to ENFORCE their religion on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159566364874770532006-09-29T16:46:00.000-05:002006-09-29T16:46:00.000-05:00Two of my sisters were removed from their husband ...Two of my sisters were removed from their husband while the husband was away. Quit denying that this behind-the-back nonsense is going on.<BR/><BR/>As far as a family not being mine, leave it alone until God himself judges me in the next life; not some self-appointed big brother.<BR/><BR/>What you KNOW to be wrong (leaving the FLDS), the husband KNOWS to be right. Religious convictions where Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159557058115516952006-09-29T14:10:00.000-05:002006-09-29T14:10:00.000-05:00Man o man do I need a new hobby.8:44-I sincerely h...Man o man do I need a new hobby.<BR/><BR/><BR/>8:44-<BR/>I sincerely hope you and your family find happiness. I am in no way saying a man should not defend his family; nor am I advocating going around your back. (I doubt she had nothing to do with it.) I AM defending your wife in choosing for herself. I REQUIRED that of my wife, from the first day we met. If she agrees with you in principle, you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159545158812167192006-09-29T10:52:00.000-05:002006-09-29T10:52:00.000-05:00CTRYou sidestepped into a flame war, but this thre...CTR<BR/>You sidestepped into a flame war, but this thread already kept taking tangents. Why did S&R leave the correct mountain if "Go South" was meant to reach Jerry through spiritual telepathy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159516832275108682006-09-29T03:00:00.000-05:002006-09-29T03:00:00.000-05:00CTRMy point was that you cannot prove your religio...CTR<BR/><BR/>My point was that you cannot prove your religion true here. It is not because no one will listen. It is not because anyone thinks there is no good in the FLDS. It is because it is outside the parameters of this blog. <BR/><BR/>You have succeeded in showing there are those intelligent enough in the FLDS to hold their own here. You have succeeded in putting some of OTS's garbage fttchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16322998105598110512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159506625935006962006-09-29T00:10:00.000-05:002006-09-29T00:10:00.000-05:00CTR How can you say "we are all free to choose" if...CTR <BR/><BR/>How can you say <I>"we are all free to choose"</I> if from the cradle you are indoctrinated with <B>fear</B> of damnation and of losing the love, camaraderie and support of your family, friends and community if you make the "wrong" choice.<BR/><BR/>Choosing out of fear is NOT true choice. <BR/><BR/>Choose what you've been told all your life is the "right" choice or suffer an feralfemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02602558269718134542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11081631.post-1159494882081323142006-09-28T20:54:00.000-05:002006-09-28T20:54:00.000-05:00I consider it kidnapping send a high and holy pers...I consider it kidnapping send a high and holy person over behind my back and pressure the wife by telling her in all sacred holiness that what I am doing is wrong, and they are to take her away and not let me see her or the child. It's cultish no matter how you look at it.<BR/><BR/>Fortunately, this was broken up by a man of integrity who warned the "man-of-the-house" because he didn't want to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com