Tuesday, July 25, 2006

July 24th Celebration

Thanks to Patrick for sponsoring the celebration yesterday at Cottonwood Park. It is something that needed to be done and thank the Lord there is someone with enough courage to do this. Though the crowd may have seemed a little small I'm sure it will be bigger in the years to come when people realize they have the freedom and agency to choose their course. Also, thanks Patrick for the fireworks display. It was awesome.

Tomorrow (July 26th is the 53rd anniversay of the Short Creek raid) Winston Blackmore is going to dedicate a replica of the monument that Warren Jeffs ordered destroyed three years ago that was placed at the old Short Creek school by the Colorado City town council. This monument will be placed at the Cottonwood Park in Colorado City at 9:30 a.m. Bruce Wisan has granted permission for this to occur. All are invited to attend. Let's turn out and support this demonstration of independence against Warren's tyrannical dictates. These happenings are definitely a trend towards progress in our community. I hope this will encourage people to begin to think for themselves.


Anonymous said...

Amen. Uncle Ratt!

ATAR_i said...

If warren gets a mural - I'm not certain why a monument is out of the question.

Tell us how it goes ok?

Anonymous said...

who is erecting the monument?

muggsey said...

It's good to see some of the crikers develop a backbone. If they want to memoralize the event, the event was indeed memorial. If they realize why it occurred in the first place.

Uncle Ratt said...

About 200 people showed up for the dedication of this monument. Winston Blackmore sponsored the monument and gave a dedicatory speech concerning the 1953 raid. I understand the ceremony went over very well. Warren, you better watch out for Winston. He just might win some of your followers away from you. His demeanor is love and forgiveness not hate and rampage.

Uncle Ratt said...

By the way, the monument said, "July 26,1953. We must never forget how the Lord blessed us in restoring our families taken in the '53 raid. Uncle Roy"

ATAR_i said...

Uncle, what was the make up of the crowd. Were they 2nd ward, XFLDS, faithful FLDS, media or a mixture?

onthestreet said...

muggsey said...
It's good to see some of the crikers develop a backbone. If they want to memoralize the event, the event was indeed memorial. If they realize why it occurred in the first place. 7/26/2006 11:47 AM

STREET's REPLY: Wait a minute, wait a year! You just did a gigantic rectal speal against monuments and engravings.

My how consistent you are, though not very truthful. Now Muggsey, is it only MUCK that you SEE? I see, Muggsey equals MUCK-SEE, see?

Uncle Ratt said...

From information I have received, the makeup of the crowd at the dedication was mostly followers of Winston Blackmore. Some even came from Canada to be with him, the rest are those living in Hildale/CC. Nothing about second warders being there. There was reportedly eight people there who were present at the Short Creek raid. I think these were followers of Winston as no first warders would have shown up. The whole thing was a Winston Blackmore show.

muggsey said...

Well, well, ol' cutsie, streetie THE LIMP WRIST, is back from the dead, or wherever he goes to get some shut-eye. I see you haven't learned anything that I would care to know in your absence. Because the junk you spout is just that, junk. You want to quote Joseph or passages from the Bible totally out of context. Your whole reason for using a Biblical Concordance is to try to prove Christians wrong by quoting Biblical text out of context. You have absolutely no concept concerning the Spirit Of Truth, the person of JESUS, THE WORD OF GOD or of (I AM, JEHOVAH, ELOHIM, YAHWEH, EL-SHADDAI, EL-OLAM, EL-BERITH, EL-ROI, EL-ELYON) each of these names in Hebrew denote not a different individual or person, but a different relationship between man and the one true GOD, recognized also as THE HOLY SPIRIT. REDEEMER, LORD, SPIRIT OF TRUTH AND GRACE. You attempt to lure me into believing that each of these names is a different god, that there are many gods. Your belief therefore is not Monotheistic, but Polytheistic. Who are you praying to today? god of the harvest, god of thunder, god of earthquakes, volcanic erruptions, eros, the huntress, god of the sea? Just who IS your god?

You have fallen victim of a scam of gigantic porportions which teaches you that you can save yourself by climbing the FLDS or LDS ladder to success, one degree at a time. Your testimony is without hope, totally devoid of Grace and doesn't begin to understand the concept of faith.

Works, works, works --- you really think that you are going to be saved by belief in that charlatan Warren Jeffs? How's warren going to be saved? Run - run - run -hide - hide - hide. He knows that if he comes before a court he can expect justice. But that's not what he wants. He wants to become the latest in a series of idiots who desire to become a martyr. I hope that he's caught and brought to trial. Then his activities will become a matter of public record for all the world to see his perfidity.

Welcome back, I enjoy having a whipping boy.

someone who cares said...

Thank you, Muggsey. I believe you have just crushed that bug that calls itself "street".

Really, Thanks.

desert darling said...

There were more than just Winstons group there.
I consider myself a friend, but not one of his flock. After warren, I will not do that again.

ATAR_i said...

Were you there darlin?

desert darling said...


ATAR_i said...

Do tell - for those of us who didn't get to see it!

Uncle Ratt said...

Cartoon - Uncle Roy and Uncle Rulon are standing on the edge of a cloud looking down upon the shambles of Hildale and CC. Uncle Roy asking Uncle Rulon, "What did you tell that boy when you left down there?" Uncle Rulon said, "I told him it would be his job to overhaul the United Effort Plan."

Fredonia Friend said...

Uncle Ratt, Desert Darling and anyone else who attended the 24th of July celebration:

Were any of you there when Don Fischer was arrested? I would imagine a red convertible speeding through town and into Cottonwood Park would cause quite a commotion.

Uncle Ratt - I really enjoy reading your "cartoons." You've got quite a talent!

onthestreet said...

MUCK-SEE Said (7/27/2006 3:44 PM):
Works, works, works --- you really think that you are going to be saved …Welcome back, I enjoy having a whipping boy.

STREET’s Reply:
James 2:20 “But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”

So too did the perverted Jews enjoy having a "whipping boy" Jesus.

muggsey said...

Well you're back. Kinda' like a bum tooth. You still are using biblical texts out of context, and circling the issue. No one is ever going to accuse you of answering a question straight forward with truth. Why? Because you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your rear end.

I can't speak for the Jews. I only know what's printed in the Divinely Inspired Inerrant Word of God, and that was not composed by a vagabond, sceamer, seer, welcher on debt, fortune teller, carnival huckster, gold seeker, odds maker who was in more trouble, more times with the law and with the public he bilked that he had to spend his life singing a song written at least 150 years later and sung by Willie Nelson, "On the Road Again", but come to think of it, that applys to Warren Jeffs too!

desert darling said...

The car in the park

Well, there were a bunch of people milling around eating and visiting when we heard sirens comming up the road and the little red topless car whipped into the park and around to where everyone was.

It parked in the middle of the road and the driver and passenger got out and lost themselves in the croud. It took probably 15 minutes for the cop who had been chasing the little car to come on in to the group to ask questions.

I was wishing someone would kick the kid's bu.cause he could have hit the children who were running about the park.

The cop couldn't get a clear answer on who had been driving the car but impounded it. Maybe an hour or so later the cop was back with reinforcements to find the driver.

ATAR_i said...

So it was a kid from CC? Did the cop go get the license plate information and have a better idea where to look for the kids who had access to the car?

Did you see it?

Fredonia Friend said...

Don Fischer is the younger brother of Dan Fischer, former FLDS member who started an organization called "Smiles for Diversity."

The incident was reported in the Salt Lake Tribune, at this link:

fttc said...

It is unfortunate that there is the envirnoment of apprehension surrounding the town police in CC/Hildale. Both on the part of the police (notice the reinforcements for simply questioning a crowd gathered in defiance of warren and the claims of the lawyer that the alleged perpetrator was afraid of harrassment by the police).

It is a given that Officer Roundy is a dedicated follower of warren. But in his favor I personally knew him when he became an officer and he was dedicated to upholding the law. I have heard reports that he is one of the most decent of all the officers as far as treating members of FLDS and outsiders as equal.

From darlin's account it sounds as if Roundy needed the support of the crowd. Were they as hesitant to uphold the law against one of thier own as they accuse the town police of being with FLDS members? I'd like to know.

desert darling said...

A lot of us were outraged that the kid was so reckless as to endanger the lives of our children for the sake of playing a prank on the FLDS cops.
The car was impounded, the owner came to collect it (not the kid), and the kid (formerly from CC) was arrested and bailed out by his attorney.

desert darling said...

On the 26th, there was a monument dedication at the park. It is just a rough cut slab of local rock with an inscripted quote from Uncle Roy about not forgetting what happened durring the raid of "53.

Many of us were speculating on how long it would remain standing. As of Sunday, it had been paintballed in yellow and blue, but was still there.

onthestreet said...

The dedications of the desecrated are desecrations of the dedicated.

ATAR_i said...

That's too bad - I'm trying to think of what group would be want to do that.

desert darling said...

So Street, do you have something against Uncle Roy?

onthestreet said...

The question is, does He have anything against me. He's one of the greats that I have to answer to.

desert darling said...

So why do you have a problem if Winston puts up a rock with a quote from him(Uncle Roy) on it?

TBM said...

The dedications of the desecrated are desecrations of the dedicated.

Ummm...could you say that in English please?

onthestreet said...

It is because the man directly descended from him has revealed the mind of God against exalting in any way the works of man above God, and saying "Look what we did in '53".

Therefore, if one who is fallen away from them, or desecrated, presumes to dedicate, he desecrates the dedicated life.

ATAR_i said...

That I know of, FLDS did nothing in 53 but suffer.

Probably the only reason polygamy didn't die, and the families were reunited was because gentiles got involved.

Perhaps they need to plant a tree next to the monument for the 'righteous gentiles'.

onthestreet said...

See, this is the very thing, discounting the Hand of God.

ATAR_i said...

There you go discounting the people who helped you.

onthestreet said...

See the difference: Looking to man for your support and your worship, or looking to God, whose right it is alone to be praised or worshipped.

Anonymous said...

Destroying the monument that said "We must never forget how the LORD preserved our families in the 1953 raid" was an act of a furious Satan, who had tried to break up the families in 53, and failed. 50 years later, his other plan was well underway, with the breaking up of the founding fathers of our communities. Let us never forget the slyness of that serpant.


onthestreet said...

Speaking of Uncle Roy being on a monument, vs the preserving of families or breaking them up, this is what Uncle Roy actually say in his own words (See “Help Women and Children Thread:

How about this for higher light and knowledge:

“I doubt very much if this people will be able to be gathered together in audiences like this to hear the word of God in peace, for the time is coming when the saints will be driven into the wilderness, and they will stay there until the judgments of God have passed over” (Leroy S Johnson 3/18/62)

"If persecution comes from the outside to this people again, it will be because of the of the iniquity within this body of people.... And the time is coming when the Lord is going to ask us to invite men and women out who do not obey and are not worthy of the blessings of eternal life"
(LSJ 2/12/67)

“Every man and woman that desires to be crowned with a celestial crown must be able to stand under the pressure of whatever name or nature it will be. ... but the Lord told the Prophet Joseph that never again will the Priesthood be taken from the earth.” (LSJ 9/7/75) 8/09/2006 8:26 PM

onthestreet said...
There it is, the policy of Warren and Rulon, straight from the Prophets LeRoy Johnson and Joseph Smith, ordained of God. 8/09/2006 10:09 PM

AND NOW WE’LL HEAR FROM OUR LORD AGAIN, on this very topic, always giving Him the last word (Mt. 10): It doesn’t seem to be sinking in:

34. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.

37. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

You all know full well that neither Jesus, Uncle Roy, nor Uncle Warren accept themselves being immortalized by man on a stone, but always deferring to the Father. Only God claims that honor, and it is on the Tables of The Ten Commandments, the law of God, not of man. You see? This Colorado City monument immortalizes the words of a man, of a very good man, but these prophets will never have it. It is befitting however, of an idolatrous city.

ATAR_i said...

Then why does warren have a mural of himself up in the temple?

Anonymous said...

Street said...You all know full well that neither Jesus, Uncle Roy, nor Uncle Warren accept themselves being immortalized by man on a stone, but always deferring to the Father. Only God claims that honor, and it is on the Tables of The Ten Commandments, the law of God, not of man. You see?
This Colorado City monument immortalizes the words of a man, of a very good man, but these prophets will never have it. It is befitting however, of an idolatrous city.


As for the Ten Commandments...
Let's look at them..

20:1 And God (NOT MICHAEL) spake all these words, saying,

20:2 I am Jehovah thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. INCLUDING A PROPHET CALLED WARREN JEFFS.

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.



20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me.

20:6 and showing loving kindness unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments. LOOK BELOW, I BELIEVE JEFFS FAILS IN THE REST.

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Jehovah thy God in vain; for Jehovah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.


20:9 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore Jehovah blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

20:12 Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long in the land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee.

20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.LOOSING COUNT ON THIS ONE.

20:17 Thou shalt not COVET thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his man-servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.


Anonymous said...

atari- you've seen the inside of the temple?

onthestreet said...

Have you seen it? Has anyone? Yet,
if he did, I also have pictures of him all over my dwelling. But I don't immortalize him in stone or as an idol, or worship him, but am a brother, and together we worship God.

Likenesses of righteous men are reminders for others to be like God, whom we worship.

Even when the Prophet becomes an angel, like his father is, if you kneel to him, he will rebuke you, like the angel did with another prophet, and like Joseph did toward his brethren:

Gen. 42:6:
And Joseph was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land: and Joseph's brethren came, and bowed down themselves before him with their faces to the earth.

This Joseph was the "nerd and the trouble-maker", like the Prophet's brother Ward described his own brother Warren.

ATAR_i said...

You've met God, and he told you who's going to heaven?

onthestreet said...

Yes, God has revealed to all mankind who is going to heaven.

ATAR_i said...

So you've met him then, in a physical sense, and he showed you his list.

Are you really arrogant enough to believe that we would believe something as ridiculous as that.

onthestreet said...

Indeed His Scripture and personal revelation to some: "So arrogant and rediculous".

onthestreet said...

A maxim, an omen:

The Firey Serpent of God's Order circling the globe, One World, a power in the West (the Eagle and the Lion's whelp, or US & UK) threatens the serpent, God's Order. Only by turning the power, the terror, onto itself shall the Order of the Firey Serpent survive.

This is now what is transpiring in world events, in the fulfillment of personal revelation.