Thursday, May 11, 2006

Prosecution or Persecution??

Warren Jeffs has not been doing anything that other Mormon groups have been doing also. All the fundamentalist groups are marrying their females off at an early age. Brigham Young set the standard for that and they are doing what they consider their religious duty. To have alot of children. To prosecute just the FLDS for this is not fair and is selective enforcement of the law.

28 comments:

fundytoo said...

Umm, excuse me? "All the fundamentalist groups are marrying off their girls at an early age". Where do you get your expertise. The girls in my group can't be sealed into a plural family until they are 18. A few of them might be a little younger when their married, but it's to single boys their own age. We have a shortage of marriagble women, but no one is getting kicked out, we need to do are missionary work and find them. entirley different circumstances.

fundytoo

ATAR_i said...

Great response fundy - I think this 'barlow' is a poser.

Anonymous said...

They can't be unless they're 18? Are you setting stakes for God?

Anonymous said...

erra...barlow

maybe you haven't heard the term

"hogs get slaughtered...
little piggys get sent back to the trough"

keep sweet eldorado
stg

Anonymous said...

They can't be unless they're 18? Are you setting stakes for God?

Nope... not at all

just setting the entry level requirements for a felony conviction

...but then, what's the big deal?
who wouldn't snap up a 20 year prison term
for an eternity in celestial heaven?

keep sweet eldorado
stg

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry anonymous. Did you think I was talking to you?

Anonymous said...

when Brigham Young was marrying them young 100 years ago, that was more acceptible to society. NOT Plural marriage (that was NOT acceptible) but women being married at a younger age.

That, however was 150 years ago. Things change; society's attitude of acceptibility changes, too.

Brigham's attitude of "Bring Um Young" just doesn't fly today.

It isn't going to work because it is against the law.

Plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

If they're going to do that, why can't the girls at least have a choice who they marry? Look at Ruth Stubbs. She wanted to marry someone else & Rulon told her she "belonged" to Rodney Holm.If I'm incorrect please feel free to clarify. I don't know much about this culture at all but it just baffles me how the girls have NO choice whatsoever in whom they marry.

Anonymous said...

What about sodomizing relatives? Do the leaders of the other groups do that?I hope not. I don't know the statute of limitations on rape but why isn't he charged with that too? I've only read about the civil suit his nephew filed.

onthestreet said...

The rape is what is taking place in every household in America, except at the YFZ and those yearning for the same. This is why the National Security Agency has to listen to everyone's phone-calls, check all your emails, put up Orwellian cameras everywhere, and authorities have to begin coralling, quarantining, and innoculating every citizen, to help alleviate your foul (or shall we say, fowl) diseases.

onthestreet said...

That was in response to 5/12/2006 3:59 AM

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (5/12/2006 3:55 AM):
If they're going to do that, why can't the girls at least have a choice who they marry? Look at Ruth Stubbs. She wanted to marry someone else & Rulon told her she "belonged" to Rodney Holm.If I'm incorrect please feel free to clarify. I don't know much about this culture at all but it just baffles me how the girls have NO choice whatsoever in whom they marry.


STREET’s Reply: Ohh, the girls do have a choice, ALL OF THEM, without exception. Every single one is asked if they are in agreement, and if the answer is no, guess what? THEY DON’T GET THE BLESSING. They are what you call “free”, or loose as a goose, even if they are squawking and screaming all the way OUT OF TOWN. They do not pass go, and they do not collect $200.

Look at Ruth Stubbs, indeed. Is she locked into something, or is she “free”. Righto, and by her own choice. First she agreed, then like any women, she had a change of mind and heart, and just maybe because of an abusive act of the husband. So he gets left behind by the Prophet, and who’s at fault? The husband, IF he abused her. Be baffled no more. The girls have more choice than any in America to be married right, by God. If marriage is not of God, then who is it of? Then, if the girl accepts, and then balks later, some even 15-years later, who is it that has faltered? Pretty simple. Thus, you see some girls today being arrested and sent to prison for pedophilia. Go figure, if you are capable.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (5/12/2006 12:09 AM)
When Brigham Young was marrying them young 100 years ago, that was more acceptible to society. NOT Plural marriage (that was NOT acceptible) but women being married at a younger age. That, however was 150 years ago. Things change; society's attitude of
acceptibility changes, too.Brigham's attitude of "Bring Um Young" just doesn't fly today. It isn't going to work because it is against the law. Plain and simple.


STREET’S Reply: The Virgin Mary, mother of God, was TWELVE when she married. That, however, was 2,000 years ago, and “I the Lord CHANGETH NOT. That’s Jewish law and tradition, the law of the land, what they call EVEN TODAY the Bat Mitzvah, or adulthood at age TWELVE, being about your Father’s business. Indeed, Jesus said it himself, at age TWELVE: “Wist ye not that I be about my Father’s business”. Now, what is a Father’s business? Look at the very word itself: “Father”. So the business of a Father is Fatherhood. Duhhh!

Anonymous said...

And they are told from the time that they are old enough to understand that "getting a blessing" from the prophet is the only way to heaven. What other choice do they have?

No free will here, no grace either. An autocratic dictator who makes everyone march to his tune. Three heils for Warren Hitler.

rcn

Anonymous said...

Its not WJ running CC any longer its his brother Lyle Jeffs. Same difference.

Anonymous said...

Warren is running it from afar (a fire), with the feds hot on his trail. Better change your bra and dress Warren. It's funny how he is seeking protection from capture by appearing as one of the creatures he loves to control. Will he (she) jump if the senior male figure in the car yells "jump" now and no lip. I doubt it. Women you should get yourselves together and rebel against the authoritorian role of the males in your life. we'd see a change, overnight!


rcn

ATAR_i said...

rcn - what source did you get the 'masquerading in a dress' from?

Anonymous said...

atar, I don't know where "RCN" got this infomation from, but if Warren was having sex with a boy, then he is a faggot/homosexual.

And it would not surprise me that while the FBI is looking for a tall, skinny 50 year old male, they can't also look for a tall, skinny ugly 50 year old woman, too. And that woman just might be Warren hiding dressed as a woman.

WOW, that would make quite a scary MUG shot - Warren dressed in drag. YYYYYIKES.

Anonymous said...

On "America's Most Wanted", aired by the FOX network last week, the nephew who was sodomized by WJ, accompanied by his father, reported that WJ and two other of the boy's uncles had sodomized when was a five year old student at Alta Academy, where WJ was principal. A subsequent civil case was brought against WJ by the nephew. A judgement was rendered in the nephew's favor because WJ was neither was in court nor was he represented by council.

I do not remember the date, but after WJ was first named as being wanted by the FBI a clerk in a discount store in Utah was waiting on a group of women, dressed as are those in FLDS, accompanied by several men. One of those dressed as a woman was recognized by the clerk as WJ. The clerk excused herself for an administrative duty, went to the store office and called authorities to report Jeffs presence. By the time she returned to the check out stand the entire group had disapeared.

On the "Osama" post (below this one) the first poster makes reference to WJ being dressed as a woman. see Osama 5/10 9:30 & Osama 5/11 2:44.

rcn

ATAR_i said...

I remember hearing about the woman in the wheelchair sometime back - I just wasn't sure how positive the ID was.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said (5/13/2006 10:37 AM): On "America's Most Wanted", aired by the FOX network last week, the nephew who was sodomized by WJ, accompanied by his father,


STREET's Reply: That says it all. If any man is witnessed by his own brother sodomizing his own son, he would kick his ass and put him in jail himself, especially in a universally admitted "ultra-conservative society" that the authorites confess them to be.

Yes, this says it all. Warren was accompanied by his brother, and sodomy simply did not happen. How could it, with his brother right there? What you have, fokes, is a boy named Brent who was kicked out for some immorality, and therefore making up a story to retaliate, no doubt prodded on by apostate parents and neighbors and authories and public name and fame, and why? Because the Prophet enjoys such unwavering devotion of thousands, while polititians everywhere suffer shame and the prospect of being voted out of office if they don't pander to the public cry of "wolf".

mugwump said...

Were you there? If so, tell it to the judge. If not, shut up.

Anonymous said...

Slander the messager; what cult leaders universally do. Street wants to discredit Brent's story, but it only shows he is indulging in cult mentality.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 4:30.

rcn

onthestreet said...

mugwump said...
Were you there? If so, tell it to the judge. If not, shut up.
5/17/2006 4:12 PM

STREET'S Reply: Yes, I was there, so I know. It is no cult or cult mentality to cast out abusers like the Prophet has done, enmass. Cults glomb on to their members, come hell or high water. The Prophet casts them out. The world has seen it, so the world knows the truth. Now whether the world is honest in heart enough to accept it, and thus gain heaven, is entirely another matter.

mugwump said...

If you were there you were a party to the offense. How does your great one cast himself out? You state he casts out abusers. He is the purpetrator, and if you were there you are an accessory to the crime. Did you hold the little boy while Jeffs committed sodomy on him? Did you take your turn then? My how holy and righteous your actions are. So smug, so self-righteous, so self-important. I'll bet you won't go, on your own to meet the young man now. I'll bet he'd clean your plow and leave the carcass for the buzzards to eat and puke up. If some of the others whom you have injured and now take glory in as the abused were witnesses, there wouldn't be enough left of you for buzzard bait.

Your pleas and pronouncements are totally worthless dung.

onthestreet said...

I was there, so I know He is innocent.

mugwump said...

Were you there in person, or in spirit like all the witnesses to the golden plates?