Friday, June 10, 2005

Warrant issued for Warren Jeffs' arrrest

The Eldorado Success is reporting on its website that a warrant has been issued for Warren Jeffs arrest on charges of sexual conduct with a minor and conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor.

Go to: www.myeldorado.net to read more!

76 comments:

Men In Black said...

Well that pretty much conforms the Rumor!

Anonymous said...

Yahoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Now things are going to disappear in C.C. even faster though.

WHY DOESN'T THE A.G.'S OFFICE STEP IN AND HELP DOCUMENT.

ATAR_i said...

Wow - the pressure is on - how will he respond?

Anonymous said...

I will tell you how. Like he did. In Jesus's day he answered them nothing. Besides, God is sending the rebuttle.

Anonymous said...

I wish Sheriff Doran good luck as he has to deal with this, if Jeffs is at YFZ, they will need to surround the place and search everyone going in and out, and go in and search the place, every building on the place, homes & temple.

Jeffs is crazy like a fox, when news of this came out he may have left YFZ and gone to some undisclosed location, Tennessee, Georgia, Colorado, Mexico, or Canada?

If Jeffs remains at YFZ instead of fleeing, the Sheriff Doran has a real problem on his hand, a Waco problem perhaps, hope that Jeffs has common sense and turns himself in so that no one else it put at risk in any LE vrs Warren Jeffs confrontation.

Anonymous said...

By Anonymous, at 6/10/2005 10:34 PM said

If Jeffs remains at YFZ instead of fleeing, the Sheriff Doran has a real problem on his hand, a Waco problem perhaps, hope that Jeffs has common sense and turns himself in so that no one else it put at risk in any LE vrs Warren Jeffs confrontation.

Oh PLEASE - do you think that this snivvling little snake will to the right thing and turn himself in?

Warren Jeffs is such a coward and such a dishonorble person (I can't even call him a "man") that he will just go run and hide from the misery he has inflicted upon his devoted followers.

FORGET about him turning himself in. He doesn't have the balls to do that. He is a sham. He is a charlatan. He is a wimp. He is the ultimate phoney.

The sad thing is that his faithful followers will have to incur more misery to clean up the mess that Warren the Wimp has caused.

He should be damned.
ex-faithful follower who finally woke up.

Anonymous said...

I was going to post something very similar but you said it better than I could. It is the truth.

another ex-creeker

ATAR_i said...

Anon,

Wasn't Jesus aware they were coming for him? He allowed them to take him. So your right he did nothing. He DIDN'T hide. He DIDN'T run. He DIDN't ask his followers to keep him from being arrested.

He DID put him self in a public place. He DID pray quietly and ask his followers to pray quietly. He is Christ, the Son of the Living God.

warren is an imitator, a sneeker, a destroyer, a thief - he won't do nothing. He'll do EVERYTHING not to be captured - because he has committed much sin, and wronged many people, and his time of judgement approaches (at least on Caesars level at present - perhaps the hereafter not longafter).

Stinger said...

Well said, Atar. Only the guilty flee.

Anonymous said...

Who knows? Maybe he will flee to Warren Montana! Just across the border from the Big Horn Basin of Wyoming. He is a crafty one and rather than searching for property in his name, the devotee's might have already purchased a ranch like that in Mancos for the reclusive prophet?

Don't look for him where he is not!

But look for him where he said he will be!

Anonymous said...

Polygamist Sect Shuns Bill Debate The Associated Press
Originally published Sunday, February 18, 2001

COLORADO CITY, Ariz. -- Leaders of Utah's largest polygamist sect are staying on the sidelines as Utah moves to criminalize their marriage ceremonies. The apparent unconcern of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is in sharp contrast to the show of force made by Salt Lake County followers of Owen Allred's Apostolic United Brethen at legislative meeting halls last week. Allred's followers on Friday persuaded a legislator to soften the penalties for arranging polygamous marriages. Sen. Ron Allen, D-Stansbury Park, agreed to make it a misdemeanor instead of a felony to officiate over an adult polygamous marriage. It still would be a felony under Allen's bill to arrange a marriage of a child younger than 16. Allen came under pressure as 100 supporters of plural marriage descended on the Utah Capitol Wednesday and Friday. But Dan Barlow, mayor of Colorado City and a high-ranking official of his polygamist church, says the Allen bill will not affect his community. Barlow insisted his church allows no underage marriages and that brides always get their parents' consent. Still, Barlow complained Allen's bill could be "the beginning of religious persecution. Since when did we start persecuting religious leaders?"


Senate Bill 146
1

PERFORMING UNLAWFUL MARRIAGES

2
2001 GENERAL SESSION

3
STATE OF UTAH

4
Sponsor: Ron Allen


5 This act modifies provisions pertaining to marriage. The act provides specific penalties for
6 performing marriages without authority or a valid license. It also provides a penalty for a
7 parent or guardian who allows a minor child to be married in violation of the law.
8 This act affects sections of Utah Code Annotated 1953 as follows:
9 AMENDS:
10 30-1-2, as last amended by Chapter 15, Laws of Utah 1999
11 30-1-5, Utah Code Annotated 1953
12 30-1-13, as last amended by Chapter 144, Laws of Utah 1992
13 30-1-14, Utah Code Annotated 1953
14 30-1-15, Utah Code Annotated 1953
15 ENACTS:
16 30-1-9.1, Utah Code Annotated 1953
17 Be it enacted by the Legislature of the state of Utah:
18 Section 1. Section 30-1-2 is amended to read:
19 30-1-2. Marriages prohibited and void.
20 The following marriages are prohibited and declared void:
21 (1) when there is a husband or wife living, from whom the person marrying has not been
22 divorced; 23 (2) when the male or female is under 18 years of age
unless consent is obtained as 24 provided in Section 30-1-9 ;
25 (3) when the male or female is under 14 years of age or, beginning May 3, 1999, when the
26 male or female is under 16 years of age at the time the parties attempt to enter into the marriage;
27 however, exceptions may be made for a person 15 years of age, under conditions set in accordance
28 with Section 30-1-9 ;
29 (4) between a divorced person and any person other than the one from whom the divorce 30 was secured until the divorce decree becomes absolute, and, if an appeal is taken, until after the
31 affirmance of the decree; [and] |
32 (5) between persons of the same sex[.]; and
33 (6) plural marriages in violation of Utah Constitution, Article III, Section 1.
34 Section 2. Section 30-1-5 is amended to read:
35 30-1-5. Marriage solemnization -- Before unauthorized person -- Validity.
36 [No] (1) A marriage solemnized before [any] a person professing to have authority
37 [therefor] to perform marriages shall not be [invalid] invalidated for [want] lack of [such]
38 authority, if consummated in the belief of the parties or either of them that he had [such] authority 39 and that they have been lawfully married.
40 (2) This section may not be construed to validate a marriage that is prohibited or void
41 under Section 30-1-2 .
42 Section 3. Section 30-1-9.1 is enacted to read:
43 30-1-9.1. Parental consent to prohibited marriage of
minor -- Penalty.
44 A parent or guardian who knowingly consents, encourages, promotes, or allows a minor
45 child to enter into a marriage prohibited by this chapter is guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
46 Section 4. Section 30-1-13 is amended to read:
47 30-1-13. Solemnization without license -- Penalty.
48 If any person solemnizes a marriage without a license, and if either party is under 16 years
49 of age, without a written authorization from a juvenile court, he is guilty of a class [B] A
50 misdemeanor, and a penalty of imprisonment shall be not less than [one month] six months.
51 Section 5. Section 30-1-14 is amended to read:
52 30-1-14. Acting without authority -- Impersonation -- Forgery -- Penalty.
53 [If any person not authorized solemnizes a marriage under pretense of having authority, or
54 falsely personates the father, mother or guardian in obtaining a license, or forges the name of the
55 father, mother or guardian to] A person is guilty of a third degree felony if he:
56 (1) solemnizes a marriage in violation of either Section 30-1-6 or 30-1-7 ;
57 (2) impersonates a parent or guardian of a minor to obtain a license for the minor to marry;
58 or
59 (3) forges the name of a parent or guardian of a minor on any writing purporting to give 60 consent to [such marriage, he shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison not exceeding 61 three years] a marriage of a minor.
62 Section 6. Section 30-1-15 is amended to read:
63 30-1-15. Solemnization of prohibited marriage -- Penalty.
64 [If any authorized person] Any person authorized under Section 30-1-6 to solemnize a
65 marriage who knowingly, with or without a license, solemnizes a marriage [such as is herein 66 prohibited, he shall be imprisoned in the state prison not exceeding three years, or fined not 67 exceeding $1,000, or be both so fined and imprisoned] prohibited by this chapter is guilty of a third
68 degree felony.

03/15/01 Governor Signed LTGOV

When Ruby Jessop was placed on April 23rd of 2001, Warren new per the Dan Barlow interview above that the law was to be in place, but in defiance of the law he continued with these secret ceremonies. He continues today as a law unto himself.
On line 32 above, I guess this means, Warren can not marry himself! Maybe we should ship him some mirrors.

onthestreet said...

This is because the prophets never did answer to the unjust laws of a king, an emperor, a caesar, a shah, a president, or any earthly ruler. They always get their direction from God, not a law unto himself but a law unto God.

"We believe in being subject to principalities, powers," etc. . . that are constitutional, not those that seek to uproot the work of God. And that is where the battle-lines are drawn.

Anonymous said...

THATS TO EASY, IT WASN'T LEGAL! LOOK AT THE TIME LINE STREET & GIVE ME A HARDER QUESTION???

OTS said;

"We believe in being subject to principalities, powers," etc. . . that are constitutional, not those that seek to uproot the work of God. And that is where the battle-lines are drawn.


Prosecutor David Leavitt stated:

"I am sure that my great-grandparents and great-great-grandparents would approve of my actions," Leavitt said… "Polygamy is against the law in Utah." (The Salt Lake Tribune, May 20, 2001, p. A14)

Ironically, polygamy was against the law in Illinois when the early Mormons began practicing it. This was the reason for its great secrecy and the adamant denials of the doctrine and practice by Joseph Smith. Richard S. Van Wagoner provides the following information:

Polygamy, a criminal act under the 1833 Illinois Anti-bigamy Laws, was so unacceptable to monogamous nineteenth-century American society that Smith could introduce it only in absolute secrecy. Despite Smith's explicit denials of plural marriage, stories of "spiritual wifery" had continued to spread. (Mormon Polygamy: A History, p. 18)

In 1833 the state of Illinois passed a law making bigamy illegal:



Sec 121. Bigamy consists in the having of two wives or two husbands at one and the same time, knowing that the former husband or wife is still alive. If any person or persons within this State, being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offending shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years. It shall not be necessary to prove either of the said marriages by the register or certificate thereof, or other record evidence; but the same may be proved by such evidence as is admissible to prove a marriage in other cases, and when such second marriage shall have taken place without this state, cohabitation in this state after such second marriage shall be deemed the commission of the crime of bigamy, and the trial in such case may take place in the county where such cohabitation shall have occurred. (Revised Laws of Illinois, 1833, p.198-99)


Thus we see that Joseph Smith, living in Illinois in the 1840's, was privately practicing and teaching a doctrine that was not only illegal but also in direct contradiction to the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants. In addition to this, records indicate that many illegal plural marriages took place after the LDS Church issued the 1890 Manifesto, supposedly stopping the practice. There is a list of 262 plural marriages between 1890 and 1910 among the prominent LDS people in the back of the book, Solemn Covenant, by B. Carmon Hardy. (See also "LDS Church Authority and New Plural Marriages, 1890-1904," by D. Michael Quinn, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1985, p. 9-105.) Of this number 131 men had served on a mission, been a Branch President, Bishop, Stake President or Apostle.

TZX

ATAR_i said...

OTS - theologically you miss the mark - COMPLETELY. Better brush up on that scripture you like to quote.

Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars. Politics and religion were separate in the Bible, politics are the things of Caesar.

The Kingdom of God is not earthly kingdom but a heavenly kingdom "my kingdom is not of this world" John 18:36.

Anonymous said...

atar_i, I got to say you sound more like street than anyone else!

ATAR_i said...

Is that all you got Anon?

I suppose if you had no biblical upbringing whatsoever you might not understand the story behind 'Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars'.

But, I think in this case - you just don't have an argument that will work for your lil pseudo prophet warren so you must resort to calling me filthy names (like street)

Pathetic

onthestreet said...

Po Tar, always picked on like the jaw bone of an ass.

Tarry, you see, theologically you miss the mark COMPLETELY! Okay now, let's sit down and brush you off and brush you up:

"All things belong unto God."
ALSO:
"Unto God the Lord belong the issues."

Yes, render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, but does he own anything at all? Yes, he owns all who served that evil one, and that is where his kingdom ceases, as all empires have ceased to exist. Did you take in any highschool, specifically HS history? How about HS Theology. It's all there.

"My kingdom not of this world?"
"This earth is mine, saith the Lord, and all this is in it." You see, Tar, his Kingdom is not of the world(LY). His kingdom is of heaven, and the heavenly, as the saints make a heaven right where they're at.

You're getting there:
(brush, brush, brush, gosh Tar, you're getting so squeeky clean):

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ATAR_i said...

blah blah blah - I can't even read your wishy washy, frum dumb, rude dude, hyper viper, brush gush, because it's such skunk bunk, rag bag, warren foreign, pingy pangy, frickin crazy, street meat. So next time try and be a brighter writer.

onthestreet said...

I gush with blush over your mush, cuz you cuss and fuss over my lush rush of absolute delush.

ATAR_i said...

Well, you can stop gushin and blushin, cuz I aint a mushin. But, I might start a cussin if you can't stop fussin.

Ya Nudnik

Anonymous said...

When the authorities come for Warren, who will protect him? God or his thugs?

ATAR_i said...

I'll bet the house on the thugs.

Anonymous said...

Let me clarify.
God or Warrens thugs?

ATAR_i said...

Yeah - I got it....the first time. And...I'd bet money (the house, my whole pot - yanno - like in poker) on 'the thugs' (meaning - God's not going to be bustin up this bust).

Anonymous said...

Warren in his false pride will bring down a nation of the righteous! He himself has caused the covenant of marriage to fall under judgement, comparing all that enter it, to be judged as he.

In our silence, we have elected he to represent all that is both good and bad in us. HEAVEN help us in our silence.

KEEP SWEET!

Anonymous said...

Jesus once said ye who hath no sin cast the first stone.............

onthestreet said...

Right, but when's they're so, ummmm, STONED with anger and drunk with blood, all they can cast is vomit from their bowels, and call it good.

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said...
THATS TO EASY, IT WASN'T LEGAL! LOOK AT THE TIME LINE STREET & GIVE ME A HARDER QUESTION???

STREET'S Reply: Ahhh, a time-line: Let me see, From Adam to Warren, the prophets were never LEGAL to a world that God himself proclaims as DECEIVED. Even your Redeemer was a ILLEGAL AS HELL, and that's why they were able to crucify him, for they had a law, in fact many laws, that he seemed to break, for his laws were indeed higher than theirs, and as he said: "I came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill.

Who breaks laws, and who fulfills. Let us see: Warren marries boys and girls at an older age than 12, the age when the Virgin Marry was betrothed, or 13 when God the Father plants his seed. WHY THAT CRIMINAL!!!

Who breaks the laws, and who fulfills. Let's see: Warren and his people bring forth life, and that abundantly, saying "let the little children come unto me." Meanwhile, THE LAW says "Kill the little children, and that abundantly, to the tune of 40-million dead babies.

You thirst for blood? You've got blood all over you, and now the beginning of terrorism all around you, for your sins cannot be hidden under the cloak of your government or your mockery of God and a prophet, or your self-righteousness in whatever religion you might claim. That won't wipe you clean. Yet Warren certainly has the obligation to wipe the slate clean wherever sin raises its deformed head among the saints.

So be thou filled with love, or be thou filled with rage.

onthestreet said...

That was in response to Anonymous: 6/11/2005 7:51 PM

ATAR_i said...

Street, have you ever picketed an abortion clinic?

If you have put in more hours in front of a clinic with a sign, marching slowly back and forth weekend after weekend, then you can say the blood is on our clothes and won't wipe clean.

But, my guess is - you haven't done it once - NOT EVEN ONCE. Other than whine - have you ever done anything and still claim the blood is on everyone elses clothes.

Nice try - no cigar

onthestreet said...

The blood is only on all who have consented to the idea of abortion and the criminalization of good people being okay, like they've done in every generation. I am picketing now, right now, and to a far greater crowd than a few clinic staffers and drivers-by. My picketting is world-wide, as in world-wide web.

Anonymous said...

Streety, the poster child for the Pro Choice movement!

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Anonymous said...

From the 2nd threat letter sent to Ben Bistline in January 2004

Besides they'd never talk to you because they know that all you
people are servants of Lucifer and that given half a chance you'd put your foot in the door and pry
them wide open to sinning. That's another reason why you'd better leave us alone. You can't have
these girls. They know better than to be associating with you all. You gentiles and apostates have
no business here at all. Under the constitution we're guaranteed our religious freedom. We can
do what we want here and you people should have nothing to do about it. We should be allowed
to set up our own goverment and laws. The courts did not follow the headings of God and let us use
our own laws. The courts accused us of trying to make a lawless society. The
prophecies will come true to fix it. There won't be a yellow dog here to greet us or stand in our way
when it comes time for the prophet to rule this world. Besides we already control everything here in the
town ayways. You accuse us of marrying our cousins and relates. The Lord tells us who to marry
not you.
(18 MONTHS LATER, THIS SOUNDS A BIT LIKE RUTH?)

God will reveal to the prophet who you are. I shudder to think
what will happen to you. If I were you I would be shaking in my shoes with fear for your life because the
Lords going to take your life. You have brought down a scourge and condemnation upon yourself. At
this point there's no place you can hide that the prophet can't find.
The best plan for you gentiles and apostates is to leave us alone. It doesn't matter what you do
cause the Lord will deal with you shortly. The more you gentiles bother us the harder you are going
to get judged and the more terrible will be your destruction. We down to every single last man in
Colorado City will gladly die to protect our prophet. As the mouthpiece of God on this earth we will
do whatever the prophet commands us to do to protect the work of God. The best advise I can give
you is to stay away from us and let us do Gods will as revealed to us by Gods prophet Warren Jeffs.
(SOUNDS LIKE A PROMISED WACO TO ME)

The prophet says
the only hope for a person who disobeys is BLOOD ATONEMENT. He hasn't told anybody to kill
anybody else. He's working very hard to get us to a point where God will clean up the world. That's
why you will see all of the stuff happening here in our town. He's destroying the seeds of contention. If
we are good enough then we'll get to help the prophet do his work. Then God will be able to order the
destroying angels to go forth and they will kill off all the wicked.
(HERE ITS "KILL ANYBODY ELSE"??? & TO HELP THE PROPHET DO HIS WORK, THAT BEING
TO KILL OFF THE WICKED)
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT SOME HERE SEEM WILLING TO GO DOWN WITH A SINKING SHIP
CALLED "WARREN". OTS is that something like "Old Testament Sam"?

Anonymous said...

OTS
STREET'S Reply: Ahhh, a time-line: Let me see, From Adam to Warren, the prophets were never LEGAL to a world that God himself proclaims as DECEIVED. Even your Redeemer was a ILLEGAL AS HELL, and that's why they were able to crucify him, for they had a law, in fact many laws, that he seemed to break, for his laws were indeed higher than theirs, and as he said: "I came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill.

I JUST GOT IT! You are begining to sound like that "Bug" the one in the Movie, "MIB" or "Men in Black" harping and blaming the human race.

Hey, Knock-Knock MIB, where the heck are you? What do you think? Obviously you have seen the movie, doesn't streety begin to sound like the big bug that took Orion's belt? I'm telling you, they are a match! If you don't get it, you should turn in your MIB badge!

onthestreet said...

That's right. He takes Orion's belt.

onthestreet said...

ATAR_i said...
No Cigar again Street. How many children have you held dying of tuberculosis? How many Teenage incarcerated runaways have you helped? How many homeless shelters and food lines have you been in (as a volunteer, a helping hand)? How many committees have you sat on in order to try and fix the problems (other peoples - not just your own). How many presidents have you had supper with (yeah did that too), How many legislators have you spoken to in WA DC, or written to.

STREET's Reply: Now Atar's really a tootin that horn, her own, like suckin on a tar-bucket.

"On that day, many will say to me: Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, ye evildoers." (Mt. 7:22)

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the only hope, is "Prison Ministries". OTS will make a good minister at the "big house". Warren, OTS and the most extreme can while away the hours discussing doctrine, sermons and teachings, when they have nothing but time on their hands. Sing'in another round of "Denim Prison Blues". Oops! Add Brian David Mitchell, another preaching drifter. You guys need a place and space, Draper or "point of the rock" is perfect!

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ATAR_i said...

Hmmm, I suppose you could use that scripture against anyone whose done anything good for people. You really can't use it against someone whose never done anything can you?

onthestreet said...

You saying you've never done anything, because I used a scripture 'against' you. Oh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure you have philanthropied a little. And the scripture is never against us if we are "meek and lowly", as the Lord puts it, right?

Let's just realize that no matter how good we may appear, so did even Christ (appear good), and someone called him "good master," and he saith: "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but the Father.

ATAR_i said...

Hmmmmm, wow - you use language that pretends to communicate - but actually does not.

onthestreet said...

Ahhh, now who's pretenting? More anger, because your laundry list of many good works were not acknowledged with a parade, or at least a placue? Try a plague.

onthestreet said...

ADMIN:

I'm trying to create my own thread on my own, so I can edit my thread as needed. I emailed you about this over a week ago, but no response. So I posted my request on several threads. Still no response. Did you die, are you okay?

Now I know that you emailed me back, and this is what you said:

Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0500
From: "Texas Polygamy"
Contact Details
Subject: Re: STREET

Sorry, only admn...or users with admin authority can delete posts. There is no need to copy and paste old posts simply to keep them at the top. If they are old posts, let them cycle off to the archives.
Weblog Admin

ADMIN: I'm not trying to "keep posts on top. How vain is that? Just need to be able to edit my own thread, you see?

Now, I clicked on the red blog logo in the upper left corner of the blog page, and got the next page, but there was no green plus sign. So I need admin authority to edit my own thread, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. How about it?

Hey, maybe you don't read all the threads, I don't know. Tell you what: I'll post this request on all the threads, so you'll see it.

Thank you Sir.
Street

Stinger said...

If ol' war' would just find the same lawyers that Mikey Jackson had, he wouldn't even need to hide. They already have soooo much in common. The great looks, wonderful singing voices, both trying to be someone they are not..... and they both like children. Maybe you should tell war' about this, streety. Tell him to come out of hiding, circulate his music and other audio gems, find himself a good PR man, maybe invite a few more young boys over for fun and alcoholic beverages. Just think, when war' is finally aquitted, you an' Ruth could stand outside the courthouse and release a white dove for each crime he got aquitted of.

Anonymous said...

Jeffs will defintely not be going to tennesee or georgia.the man who had words,with David Allred.two weeks ago,is the patriarch of the Eastern groups.These two clans seem to be on the winston side,of the growing rift.How ever,I doubt Jeffs is still in Eldorado.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:26

You are most likely correct as Sheriff Doran doesn't seem to be in any hurry to go over to YFZ to arrest Jeffs. I vote for Mexico, bet he went there where US LE can't touch him.

When the heat dies downs he may slip across border once in a while to visit his "temple".

Yes ole Jeffs is crazy like a fox.

onthestreet said...

ADMIN:

I TRIED TO MAKE MY NEW THREAD AGAIN. NO GREEN PLUS. TELL YOU WHAT, I WON'T POST THIS IN ALL THE TREADS, BUT I DO NEED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION SOMEHOW. I'LL LIMIT MYSELF TO EVERY OTHER THREAD.

THAT BETTER? HELL, TELL ME WHAT'S UP.

I'm trying to create my own thread on my own, so I can edit my thread as needed. I emailed you about this over a week ago, but no response. So I posted my request on several threads. Still no response. Did you die, are you okay?

Now I know that you emailed me back, and this is what you said:

Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0500
From: "Texas Polygamy"
Contact Details
Subject: Re: STREET

Sorry, only admn...or users with admin authority can delete posts. There is no need to copy and paste old posts simply to keep them at the top. If they are old posts, let them cycle off to the archives.
Weblog Admin

ADMIN: I'm not trying to "keep posts on top. How vain is that? Just need to be able to edit my own thread, you see?

Now, I clicked on the red blog logo in the upper left corner of the blog page, and got the next page, but there was no green plus sign. So I need admin authority to edit my own thread, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. How about it?

Hey, maybe you don't read all the threads, I don't know. Tell you what: I'll post this request on all the threads, so you'll see it.

Thank you Sir.
Street

Anonymous said...

Why in the heck would the adminstrator give SPECIAL PRIVELEGES to OnTheStreet?

I'd say, Give him the BOOT!

onthestreet said...

Ahhh, not special privilege. Just the SAME PRIVILEGE. You can all post new threads, and I can't. How totally prejudiced is that???????? But because I pose a defense against your total ignorance of scripture, and your crimes against a good people, your little tantrums can't help themselves.

How mature is that? How just? Just pathetic, and most indicative of your violation of peoples' rights, for all the world to see.

Oh yes, freedom of press and of expression, as long as it's only one-sided.

onthestreet said...

Furthermore, I'm specifically asked Admin TO NOT create a new thread for me, which he offered to do. How vain is that? I already have a brand new thread. Just not my own creation, one I can delete, like you all can do with your own threads. Gees, if you don't want so much posting from me on all the other threads, just give me a thread. Pretty elementary, my children, pretty elementary.

Anonymous said...

More like juvenile; as in juvenile delinquent.

onthestreet said...

Ohhh, no, nony's throwing a tantram

ATAR_i said...

OTS is trying to manipulate Weblog to give him BACK the privileges he took away after OTS abused NORMAL use of the weblog.

Problem is, the only thing he can do to manipulate, is threaten to post excessively (which he already does). So the manipulation can't work. And, I doubt Weblog is excited about rewarding bad behavior.

I bet if OTS didn't paste excessively for awhile - and behaved himself, he could EARN back his privileges.

Anonymous said...

You have to realize this is therapy for "on-the-street". He has a religious addiction, called FLDS and is trying to figure it out, give him a break, just skip his posts. Sides that some of them do make sense..it's just you have to have understanding from where he comes from.

rumor-has-it said...

I think you under estimate Warren Jeffs. He is an amazing man. He has technology on his side. He is ahead of his time. They use satelite phones and internet and real time information. They have everything that Homeland security has to moniter us. They know what is happening before it happens. I doubt they will ever catch him. He has too many people to defend him. The US government hasn't found Ben Laudin, what makes you think that they could find Warren Jeffs?
The rules he makes for others do not apply to him. He obeys no rules.

Anonymous said...

I think the authorities should give Warren just a little more time, as much as I would like to see him in jail.I think that if he's left alone a little longer his web will unravel itself just as has happened to every other Hitler-like dictator,and as long as he's left alone 'til then,I think more people will be able to see what is happening to them,whereas if he's taken and put in jail,he will just be a martyr in the eyes of his followers.From the way things have been going I hope it won't be long.

Anonymous said...

We have an advantage over the people in the days of Hitler in that we have access to worldwide information at our fingertips. It will be harder for Warren to do what Hitler did, at least in as wide of a scope. Warren does try to keep his group sequestered and away from any information, but he still can't entirely, and at least the rest of the world is not oblivious.

ATAR_i said...

Perhaps a reward is in order? Maybe someone 'not quite as faithful' might be interested - or someone who knows their days are numbered - or someone who is just looking to cut a deal?

Anonymous said...

Oh, swell! That's all Warren needs! The final piece to be able to compare himself to Christ. I can hear it now. "And he turned in his Lord for 30 pieces of silver". He already considers himself a martyr. And you know, his followers believe everything he says and every time the law comes in he just uses it to "prove" to them the "prophecies". Please don't do the reward thing! Let's just get him another way.

Anonymous said...

I say we give Warren enough time and sooner or later his own people will turn on him, and do to him what he has done to everyone else.

ATAR_i said...

They issue rewards for bad guys - he'll probably need to be reminded of that. Maybe a gentile will have to find him and get the reward - I'll volunteer (that way he can't equate his capture too much with Jesus)

Reward or no - he'll place his mug shot right next to Jesus. There's not much you can do to change that.

Even Charles Manson's little groupies were totally supportive - for a time. I think this one will take decades to fix. It went on too long unchecked, too much time has passed for it to go away slowly.

onthestreet said...

UNCLE WARREN! HAPPY FATHERS DAY!

May God bless you forever with faithful children, as numerous as the stars of heaven.

Anonymous said...

Uncle Warren, I love you like I did, before they slandered your name. I love you like I did when you were among us. I love you like I did back then. I will walk again for you. Like in the song of "a poor wayfareing man." Tho, they hate and lie and slander you. Their words are vain. God will deliver you. I walk again for you. I walk for Jesus, For you and I walk for me. I walk for you to become a father again. I walk for love. I walk for your city's of light.

Anonymous said...

A reward sounds interesting--There certainly would be more drama, more hype and more press coverage. How about thirty pieces of gold.?

Faithful Woman said...

Watch out Ruth, sounds like you are slipping in your "faith" if you have to remind yourself that you still love him like you did before you heard some of the stories of things he did. I guarantee you didn't even hear some of the worst stories.

Anonymous said...

You can search Texas from top to bottom and you will never find wj. Won't find him in Colorado or Mexico either cause, yer feller is in Canada. He has been there for some time. Think he would cross back into the states with warrants all over the place? Think again. He's in Canada. Bet your thousand on it.

Anonymous said...

I heard a rumor that he had medical care and was seen in San Angelo, has any one else heard this rumor? Was Warren in good health last time he was seen in public.

Press Doctor

onthestreet said...

Always in good health. Even Rulon on his death-bed was in good health, and supremely so today. As for his location, he is like God, everywhere.

Anonymous said...

twisted. VERY twisted

onthestreet said...

Indeed. Why, they can twist in and out of places that you would not believe.

Anonymous said...

Maybe a new thread is needed, there is reams of paper work on Eugenics!

http://human-nature.com/science-as-culture/walker.html

FATAL INHERITANCE: MORMON EUGENICS



For the first time, the faith promoting stories about my great grandfather’s heroism for defying the federal government when they outlawed polygamy interested me. Family lore indicates he was a courageous fighter for religious freedom and found himself unjustly incarcerated for continuing his polygamy lifestyle after its outlaw by federal and state statute. Previously I paid little attention to Mormon history, rejecting that belief system primarily because of political differences with the Mormon leadership over civil rights and peace issues in the 1960’s. This great-grandfather married two sisters which meant the twenty-two known children were double cousins or as genetically similar as brother and sister. I began to think polygamy might be a genetically unsound marriage practice. Not only were there possibly too few fathers making it easier for defects to clump in the large interrelated kindred but succeeding generations of children from these isolated rural Mormon towns married within a few kindred as well. Throughout the world, most polygamy is exogamous, or breeding outside the group. Breeding within, as Mormons did, endogamous polygamy, is virtually never practiced. Had these defects clumped in my own family as it seemingly appeared to me?

While discussing health problems at a family gathering with some of my cousins’ wives, we discovered astonishingly that three out of four of us, all polygamy descendants, had borne a son with a clubfoot. Fortunately, this genetic deformity is correctable with proper care, is also a common defect, but not that common. One outspoken Mormon matriarch who attended the same Sunday meeting for fifty years commented about the health of the polygamous descendants versus the monogamous descendants, “You see it in the obituaries. So many young people.” [2]

Another woman revealed how frustrated and angry she was over her brother’s death, a brother who died because of undiagnosed epilepsy, possibly needlessly. “My parents would never face it. First, he had a car accident during a seizure, yet they could not admit he was not perfect. While swimming he had another seizure and drowned. We are hierarchy children. The tendency is not to admit it if anything is wrong, since we are supposedly perfect.” [3]

The ‘hierarchy children’ are from the ‘elite’ first families of Mormonism and these families started polygamy in America. Nearly all the Mormon founding families were relatives, so the first polygamists enjoyed relations to different degrees when the divine experiment began. The Twelve Apostles of Mormonism then acted to increase this familial relationship by marrying other relatives until in 1877, at the end of Brigham Young’s reign as Mormon Prophet and King, the polygamous hierarchy became l00% interrelated.[4] D. Michael Quinn, former Brigham Young University Professor, states “The Mormon practice of polygamy enabled men to marry daughters, nieces, cousins, granddaughters and former wives of other General Authorities”. [5] Did this practice affect my family and other Mormon pioneer families adversely, possibly even in other momentous ways? Mormon folklore claims otherwise.

Genetics is the study of how traits pass from parents to offspring. Epidemiology is the study of the spread, prevention and control of disease in a community or group of persons. Some people mistakenly think genetic disease encompasses only birth defects and this is far from the truth. Genetic disease can occur at any age including birth, onset of puberty, early adulthood, or middle age. Inherited diseases are extremely varied from protein metabolism to connective tissue problems to vital organ failure, and among the most expensive to manage financially both for the public and for the individual family. These diseases endure as the most difficult, time consuming, and emotionally traumatizing for everyone involved in the care of someone who will not improve, but worsen and die.

Laurels Klare said...

The Arrest Warrant for Warren Jeffs is "regular on its face". The Mohave County Grand Jury was not drawn or selected according to law. Jeffs needs to challenge the Grand Jury under Rule 12.3. And have the Warrant quashed.

fttc said...

Can you elaborate? What was done wrong? What is your source? Are you an authority on the matter?

onthestreet said...

NOTHING is wrong, I tell you. It is all going precisely according to plan, and by God's authority.