Saturday, June 04, 2005

Hope, In A Time of Confusion

Ezekiel 3:7 But the house of Israel will not want to listen to you because they do not want to listen tom me. For the whole house of Israel is hardheaded and hardhearted.

Ezekiel 2:7 But speak My words to them whether they listen or refuse, for they are rebellious.

32 comments:

mugwump said...

Romans 3:10 as it is written: There is no one righteous, not even one;

Anonymous said...

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. " 2 Peter 2:1-2

Anonymous said...

And The Lord said, I can not send Lasereth back. There is a gulf betwene him and ye. I have sent the prophets. They would not believe their words, They would not believe him.

And Job, sat among the ashes, and was mocked by his friends, his wife saying, give up the ghost. He did hold fast and was rewarded ten fold.

For behold, they draw near unto me with their lips but there hearts are far from me.

And corahore, went among the people saying " There is no God, for an angel hath apeared and reveled it unto me.
And he was smitten in that hour.

And Alma did call upon the lord and was delivered.

The sons of helaman were tought faith by their mothers.

Behold Jesus was hung upon the cross, that you could be reserected. Unto what you are.

In that day good was esteemed as evil, and evil held up as good.

Measure yourself by the word. Are you Christ like? Do you love or hate?

mugwump said...

2.) Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

erichard said...

...
24 But behold I say unto you, procrastinate not the day of your salvation, and humble yourselves as little children that the dews of heaven may fall upon you.
25 Fear not My little flock for I am with thee, and though the adversary rage knowing the time is short, thou shalt find peace to thy heart and comfort to thy soul if thou dost repent and keep My commandments.
26 And those who pollute that which is sacred know not what they do, for they have become totally taken over by the evil one.
27 And I place stumbling blocks for men, for if a man stumble and fall he will remember more readily, and he picketh himself up and dusteth himself off, and he be either angered or humbled.
28 And if he be angered he profiteth not from the experience, but if he be humbled, he profiteth wherewithal.
29 And this be the grand key, all those who receive revelation must know the source and try the spirit.
30 And if it be from Me saith the LORD, behold My Spirit will encompass them round about, and men shall they not fear, and their words shall pierce the soul of the wicked, and cause them to anger, and it shall delight the soul of the righteous for it shall expose the wicked and uphold the righteous.
31 And it shall cry repentance unto all men, and require men that they shall perform works of righteousness.
32 And the prophecies they prophesy shall be fulfilled, yea every whit.
33 And the revelations that are not of Me shall not stand.
34 Behold all who seek the counsel of the adversary shall seek to build up their own, claiming authority when there is no authority.
35 For Cain received authority from the adversary to do his works, for he was appointed unto these things by him.
36 At first Cain received revelation from Me saith the LORD.
37 But when he sinned and tried to hide his sin, behold he sought revelation and he received revelation, but not from Me but from the father of all lies.
38 For the pattern is set in these last days. For all those who heed not My commandments and rebel against Me and seeketh revelation shall receive it, but not from Me saith the LORD.
39 And in these last days I have raised up a Prophet and all who heed not his warning shall be destroyed and none shall stand.
40 For all that is hidden shall be revealed and all that was laid up shall come forth, and by the rod of My mouth shall it be done.
41 For now is the time that all men must repent, and from this time forth he that is not for Me is
against Me. 2bc41

mugwump said...

3.) Romans 3:23

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

ATAR_i said...

erichard

You can't just make up stuff and put numbers in front of it and pretend it's scripture.

"and by the rod of My Mouth it will be done" - lord have mercy.

Anonymous said...

erichard is from one of the "other" groups.

onthestreet said...

Thread Title: More like:
HOPE IN A TIME OF CONFUSIUS.

mugwump said...

4.) Romans 5:8-9

But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us!

Much more then, since we have now been declared righteous by his blood, we will be saved through Him from wrath.

Anonymous said...

The content in this thread has got to make even OTS a little sick.

OTS- Doesn't this thread make you want to puke?

mugwump said...

5.) Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Anonymous said...

To Anon 12:17:
I'm puking too!!

ATAR_i said...

John 11:35

Jesus wept

I'm just nauseated

mugwump said...

6.) Romans 10: 9-10, 13

If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

With the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Anonymous said...

...and DO NOT forget to sign the back of the Gideon Bible.

onthestreet said...

No puking over scripture, guys, gals, unless of course you're athiestically inclined. It's God's word. No true Christian, Mormon, or even moron, can get enough of God. Right guys? Script on.

ATAR_i said...

I can puke over erichards made up stuff all I want - it's not scripture - it's made up mumbo jumbo using quasi old english verbage to lend a sense of authenticity (but it so NOT anything remotely scriptural, and it doesn't deserve humor - it deserves digust)!

mugwump said...

Thanks atar_i

Of those who have visited this site you are the only one who understands it's real importance.

This set of scriptures was placed here for one purpose only, to offer hope to those in dispair. God's plan of salvation by grace through faith, as demonstrated by an individual's good works.

This is identical to the invitation offered at the end of each and every broadcast of any Billy Graham Crusade. Over the decades of Mr. Grahamn's unique ministry has demonstrated that tens of thousands of people, worldwide have confessed their own sin, have ask God's forgivness, have recognized that only by God's grace (love) was salvation made available through the death, burial and resurection of Jesus Christ, God's one and only son.

These converts experienced a deep understanding of Christ's redeeming love and have placed their trust in Him and experienced eternal salvation. This experience helps those who follow this simple plan to know an assurance that their salvation price has been paif in full.

erichard said...

Hi Atar_i,

Is there any possibility that you can give me the benefit of the doubt? Come on, you know basically nothing about me. I honestly did not make up what I posted. I will not bother you again with such, however. If you want, I could tell you some about me, as maybe that would help.

onthestreet said...

Well Hi! How are all my snotty-nosed children?

onthestreet said...

Mugwump’s Thread (HOPE):

Saturday, June 04, 2005
Hope, In A Time of Confusion
Ezekiel 3:7 But the house of Israel will not want to listen to you because they do not want to listen tom me. For the whole house of Israel is hardheaded and hardhearted.
Ezekiel 2:7 But speak My words to them whether they listen or refuse, for they are rebellious.
posted by mugwump at 8:59 PM | 20 comments

6/10/2005 12:29 PM
This set of scriptures was placed here for one purpose only, to offer hope to those in dispair. God's plan of salvation by grace through faith, as demonstrated by an individual's good works.

Very well put, Muggy, and well-timed, considering the recent raids on CC and the warrant for Warren’s arrest.
I will add to this a little, because it’s as relevant and from the same prophet (Ezekiel). I may get over a couple of paragraphs, so grab some popcorn, put your feet up, and take it in. If it gets a little long, I’ll add page numbers and maybe Dewey Decimals:

1. First, as for the charges. He’s only charged for doing what the prophets have done for 6,000 years, and in our Church for 175 years, marrying people, yes even young people. Mary the mother of God was underage, according to several ancient records I’ve seen. Here’s just one for your benefit:

Joachim Jeremias, Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus (Fortress Press, 1969, translated from the third German edition, 1962), p. 365, cites Strack and Billerbeck (II, 374), that the usual age for a girl's betrothal was between twelve and twelve and a half. He cites M.Ket. v.2 that the marriage itself ordinarily took place one year after betrothal.

2. Therefore, the charges are not just weak, charging him for doing what all the prophets have done is plain criminal. My belief in God through the prophet remains, and may it ever so into the eternities. I won’t sit in judgement on the Lord’s Anointed, for I’ll always consider him that. Furthermore, all of American, including the authorities of Utah, Arizona, Texas, and the United States, consider him innocent. Am I right? You’re just not American if you consider Warren Jeffs guilty before there’s any trial, and any trial is likely to be a scam, like I’ve shown above that the charges themselves are. So if you consider him guilty, what does that do? That makes YOU guilty. You violate the law, and every true American agrees with that, since ALL ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Is this true, or is it not? You are all innocent until they or God have proven you all guilty. But even then, I’ll consider you eventually redeemable.

I will continue this in a separate thread, for your sake, to keep things brief and somewhat readable.
How was the popcorn?

onthestreet said...

To continue from my last post in this thread:

For those who consider Warren the Lord’s Anointed, I would add this: It would seem that the Prophet has rejected a rebellious people, like Muggy suggested from the quote of Ezekiel the Prophet. Then, as shown by Ezekiel, God sets up a Babylon to rule a rebellious house, “That the kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up. If he breaks his oath with the King of Babylon, saith the Lord, he shall die in Babylon (Ezek. 17:14-16), and all his fugitives shall fall. . . and ye shall know that I the Lord have spoken it.” (v. 21).

I inquired to know: What is the status of the FLDS Church with the Lord, and what is “the highest branch of the Cedar,” as revealed to Ezekiel (17:3, 22)? (If this is not palatable to some of you, just eat some popcorn and leave. There now, you other two fellas can continue):

This is the status of the Church: It is a sign of progress. The Cedar is Keter, the tenacity of root. The highest branch of Keter is Christ. Judgement rests over my receptive Kingdom. The sun is rising over the earth in ever-widening expansion and clarity. Michael rallies his forces around the Sovereign Lord. He is granted audience continually to his court, and is rewarded richly with large numbers. A great eagle shall crop off a tender one in Israel, and shall plant him in a land of trafficking, to debase the high-minded and green trees, and exalt the low-minded and dry tree. He also takes of its seed, and plants it in a fruitful field, and it grows and spreads. It comes now in stages:

1. Progress, but turned back. Remain calm. 2. Progress, but in sorrow. Persevere. 3. All the saints in accord. Remorse disappears. 4. Progress like a hamster. Dubious procedures brought to light. 5. Influencial: Remain gentle and reserved. 6. Progress with horns. Even in this final stage, the saints only deal with their own mistakes. The Lord will fight their battles. The Great Prince, Michael, establishes Zion with power! For all souls are his.

ATAR_i said...

ok - eRichard - tell me about you. And if you feel inclined, provide a reference for where those

'made up by somebody, just not you, pseudo scriptures'

came from?

erichard said...

Atari and others. I live in Texas since 1998, but I grew up in Southern Utah in the LDS church-- 7th generation Mormon. So I have always known about the Colorado City people. I went on a LDS mission to Italy, and became well studied in the Mormon faith. After Italy, I went to BYU and in time married in the Temple. I studied the Mormon fundamentalists at some point, but rejected the Lorin Wooley claims. Also the LeBaron and other claims. However, in time I was convinced that "all is not well in Zion", and claimed the right to legitimately disagree with the leadership of the church based on LDS scriptures-- and the right to not reject the evidences for my concerns. They just cast me out of the church (1984). I am not a polygamist by the way, it was over other doctrinal and "rights" matters. So I view the problems among the CC people as similar to the problem in the LDS church-- there is no way allowed to legitimately disagree with the leadership and seek to resolve things. I do have close friends who believe close to myself, and we hope eventually we will be back in the LDS church when the present leaders finally have their comeuppance. We are not missionaries, and do not believe in any other church-- especially not the FLDS church. The FLDS leaders are having their much deserved comeuppance now. One close friend of mine has two grandchildren following Warren. If (read "when") things blow up, my friend wants to be there for these grandchildren. So for his sake, and my own interest, I am following the "Eldorado saga". I gave the quote reference at the end: "2bc41". This means Second Book of Commandments, Section 41. If one does not accept the Doctrine and Covenants (the first Book of Commandments) then they are usually not going to have interest in this book. This book does not in any way support coercive or young girl polygamy. It does teach that if a woman in the faith loses her husband to death or apostasy, she must have the right to remarry another faithful man even if it means polygamy. Read the Bible Book of Ruth if you lack a testimony of this principle. 99+% of this book is about other matters. One can download the early Sections of this book at this link:

http://www.2bc.info/2bc-fi39.pdf

I am sure few will agree with my faith, but I felt it might be interesting for some on this blog to hear my story and ideas. Please do not now chop me up in too many pieces.

Anonymous said...

onthestreet said...
Well Hi! How are all my snotty-nosed children?


They are all still back at the creek where you left them without a paddle, all alone with their overwhelmed mother and no resources. Oh. I guess that's how they were when you were with them, anyway. They're probably better off without you.

ATAR_i said...

Anon 12:43 - as my daughter would say 'Burn' - nice job!

onthestreet said...

ADMIN:

I'm trying to create my own thread on my own, so I can edit my thread as needed. I emailed you about this over a week ago, but no response. So I posted my request on several threads. Still no response. Did you die, are you okay?

Now I know that you emailed me back, and this is what you said:

Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:11:03 -0500
From: "Texas Polygamy"
Contact Details
Subject: Re: STREET

Sorry, only admn...or users with admin authority can delete posts. There is no need to copy and paste old posts simply to keep them at the top. If they are old posts, let them cycle off to the archives.
Weblog Admin

ADMIN: I'm not trying to "keep posts on top. How vain is that? Just need to be able to edit my own thread, you see?

Now, I clicked on the red blog logo in the upper left corner of the blog page, and got the next page, but there was no green plus sign. So I need admin authority to edit my own thread, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. How about it?

Hey, maybe you don't read all the threads, I don't know. Tell you what: I'll post this request on all the threads, so you'll see it.

Thank you Sir.
Street

ATAR_i said...

Thanks for sharing eRichard - I appreciate the time you took to share your background.

onthestreet said...

UNCLE WARREN! HAPPY FATHERS DAY!

May God bless you forever with faithful children, as numerous as the stars of heaven.

Anonymous said...

6:52 Unreal..........

onthestreet said...

MOST REAL. Reality is what has happened, what is happening, and what will happen in the future, in fulfilling the word of God, which he does, and that is real.