Monday, April 04, 2005

Technical Difficulties

What's wrong with this blog? It keeps going down!

30 comments:

weblog administrator said...

I've been on with blogger technical assistance and hopefully it is fixed now. Site might have gotten overloaded after post about Jeffs audio.

Anonymous said...

How many hits are you getting? Are your servers being overloaded?

redraider said...

Every time I read something from someone "on the inside" or who has been on "the inside" of this, my heart stops. I am sure you have mixed feelings about everything (your religion, families and friends). I want to understand more about you. Tell us what life is like...what you like and dislike about FLDS. I think it would help everyone understand this better.

Anonymous said...

I love the Chamber of Commerce sign on 277. It says:

"TOMMORROW HAS BEEN CANCELLED"

LMAO

Anonymous said...

to redraider,
i grew up in colo.city and my dad had several wives and from a kids perspective growing up there was the coolest place in the world i had everything,if i gathered my brothers and sisters and one neighbors'kids we had our full teams for baseball, football,or any sport we wanted.HOW COOL IS THAT! In the home there was always a loving mother to help me with anything i needed and my dad IS my best friend, he he tought us all how to laugh, how to love and how to livehe taught us to honor and serve our lord jesus christ and to allow others to do the same --acording to the dictates of thier own concience.
from a community perspective there has always been squabbles here and there and those who put themselves above others and as the years went by it grew worse.
In the schools i was taught to love my country and i was taughtas other children across america--math ,science,etc. with computers and magazines and television.
So please understand the crazy teachings and ways going on now are ONLY the ways of warren jeffs.


sighned, greatful for my upbringing

Anonymous said...

to redraider.

I grew up in CC also. I was taught in the public school system. Just like all publicly taught kids my age. We had shop classes, science, biology, Math, American History, Arizona History, Spelling, Drama class, and many more. However unlike anon 12:47. My Dad was an abusive fellow. To this day I have a hard time being around him. I honestly didn't leave because I was forced out by the church leaders, but to get away from both a physically and mentally abusive Dad. Most of the families I grew up with were hard working, honest people just trying to get by. They would do anything to help a fellow man, and if someone strange was stranded, they would give directions, repair flats, give food. The things you would expect any red-blooded American country folk to do. As for the "FLDS" I don't know who they are. I knew Warren Jeffs a little, and never did feel like his teachings were proper. But before Warren's indoctrination things really weren't bad at all.

-PrayingForFamily

Anonymous said...

To weblog administrator: How many connections does it take to overload this site.

weblog administrator said...

Response to 1:06 p.m.
We are still trying to determine exactly how much traffic we are getting. Blogger is hosted by Google, so they should have plenty of bandwith. Apparently there are a lot of lurkers who only read and seldom if ever post. The blogger tech would only say that the traffic has been heavy.

SCARED said...

I am a Christian woman with a family. It terrifies me that people like Warren Jeffs exist in this world.

He hides from the world by living in a compound. I think polygamy and child molestation is NOT a very Christian thing to do. He SHOULD be arrested. He is nothing but a PEDOPHILE.

If his relationship with God is so pure than why does he have so much hate in his heart for other races and sexual orientation. Love in an option, not a selected process like is marrying "rules".

If he has so much faith in his wives and other girls that live in him compound, than he should let child protective services come in there and interview each one of them alone. Let the YOUNG girls make up there minds.

Anonymous said...

I am agnostic and love this blog site.

I think there are a lot of "Holier than thou " responses from both sides.

If we could just have some Moslem input that would really be great.

Fascinating things learned on this blogsite.

Anonymous said...

For Redraider There is nothing more beautiful than our religion when it is lived as God intended it to be. It is just as common for me to live like I do as it is for you to live the way you do. I have freely chosen my life style. My parents were very anxious over my choice, for their concern for my happiness was great. However I entered a plural relationship with my eyes wide open, and have never been sorry. Of course there have been challanges. That's the way life is no matter which road we choose, but there is much beauty here too. Cherished bonds are formed that will unite us forever. Those of us who are here choose to be. I am happy. I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

Anonymous said...

I just tried to make a post on Uncle Freds thread and show it to a couple of friends considering leaving Warren.I can't even find it anymore.That was very important information.Where can I get a copy of it? C.C.

Anonymous said...

I am Mormon and have been reading this blog for a while. I have come to the conclusion that FLDS is just now experiencing the frustration of having a right-wing spin off group give the whole organization a bad reputation. You are just now experiencing the way we feel about you! Warren is to you, like the FLDS is to us!!

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

SCARED said...

Dear 3:52 PM

I understand that you have chosen you life, but doesn't it bug you that your spouse is sharing you?

A Marriage is a beautiful love between 1 man and 1 woman. It is a internal bond between eachother and God. Not 1 man and 8 woman.

Men that participate in polygamy are just men who want there cake and eat it to.

I pray for all of you.
I personally belive that Warren Jeffs is the Devil in sheeps clothing.

Anonymous said...

8:10,

You may not be a "fundamentalist mormon", but you both took a left turn at Joseph Smith.

Kinda makes you look gullible in many of the same ways.

jb

Anonymous said...

Hey Blog Admin:
Where are the rest of the posts? I have seen some and posted some that I can't find now. (They weren't obscene) Wassup?

weblog administrator said...

Look under the March or April archives on the right side of the opening page.
The posts you want are still accessible there.

Hope this helps

Anonymous said...

I am a lurker from north of 49 and not flds now and never have been. I just thought I would say hello. I am one of the people that reads this blog daily but never posts. I guess I'm clogging up the system. I have learned many things reading this blog. I appreciate the opportunity for education on this subject. Please everyone have a wonderful day and Peace

Anonymous said...

In response to redraider:

I too am very pleased with my choice as a free American. I was born in a little rock house in the humble village of Short Creek, Arizona. My childhood was sweet and dear, filled with cherished memory's of love and family. I was a precocious child, eager to learn what life could teach me. I guess, looking back, I was well taught about life's many choices, seasoned by a father's wisdom and the kindness of several mother's love. I did not spend my childhood with frivolous mediocrity or casual ambivalence about what I wanted, for, I certainly chose the road less traveled . . .

My Father was the kindest man I've ever known and I've had some very great men as mentors, friends and examples. Our home was filled with love, purpose and free will. I was always given my choice even when wrong, with the caveat that I would inherit and own the consequences of my choice. There was no compelling influence in my childhood, other than a still small voice whispering to me that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and best friend. That "still small voice" whispers to me yet.

My Father had a respectable library filled with the classics and text's of antiquity, and his passion was reading and teaching the wisdom of the great ones. I spent many hours immersed in worlds far beyond our little village and as I grew and spread my wings, I found that I had already traveled far and wide through the descriptive pen's of Plato, Josephus, Milton, Shakespear, Kipling, Emerson, Thoreau, Whitman, Yeates, Hemingway, Frost, Solzhenitsyn and a host of others. My favorite book of all time however, is the New Testament, and the sublime words of the one who died that I might live . . .

When I was just twelve years old, I walked with the Lord through those pages and listened to the Sermon-On-The-Mount, and knew the power of his living water that I should never thirst for hope.

Yes, I am a Fundamentalist Mormon. And for those readers who have never closely studied the life, work and teachings of Joseph Smith, Jr., I would say you have missed the most powerful testament of Jesus Christ given in our day and dispensation of time. I challenge you to read the Book of Mormon from cover to cover, realizing that it was translated by a young man with a fourth grade education, who hadn't a clue what a Semitic idiom was or how the Semitic language was composed. Now, we have the age of computers and can analyze languages with great accuracy. The voice-print of the Savior's words in Third Nephi are the same as His voice-print in the New Testament. The idioms and style of Isaiah from the Plates of Laban, in the Book of Mormon, are truer to the ancient Hebrew than is the King James version. A scholarly study of this remarkable book has opened the eyes of the blind through the eyes of faith.

According to my faith and belief, there is no question that Mormonism is the restored Gospel in its fullness. It is this testimony that will not let me defer to the modern "dumbed down version."

To the Mormon contributor (8:10 PM), I respectfully answer--Yes; polygamy is an embarrasment to you and your politically correct church. Why don't you gather up the hundreds and thousands of your Doctrine and Covenants and tear out Section's 131 and 132, you obviously have no need for them now (if thine eye offend thee pluck it out), and perhaps, no need for them ever . . .

Regarding the doctrine of Celestial Marriage, William Clayton (Josephs Smith's personal secretary) in his affadavit dated February 16, 1874 said under oath:

". . . From him [Joseph Smith, Jr.] I learned that the doctrine of plural and celestial marriage is the most holy and important doctrine ever revealed to man on the earth, and that without obedience to that principle no man can ever attain to the fulness of exaltation in celestial glory." (Historical Record P. 226.)

It is for the above reasons and many more that some disciples of Joseph Smith cannot abandon there's or his religious faith.

Now, as to the question of Warren Jeffs and his recently created FLDS Church, I would add, Warren does not reflect the teachings of Christ, the Prophet Joseph or his successor's in the "Priesthood Work." Warren Jeffs and his "Gulag Archipelago" is an abberation and embarrasment to all religion.

If we who claim to follow the Savior have learned anything from his example to us, it is:

We must become perfect in love, patience, long suffering, tolerance, brotherly kindness, forgiveness, sacrifice, chastity, fidelity, faithfulness, holiness and self-abnegation for each other. In other words, "Charity is the pure love of Christ . . . and he who is possessed of it, it shall be well with him at the last day . . ."

Anonymous said...

Dear Scared--10:53 P.M. First of all I have nothing to do with Warren Jeffs.

"We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where or what they may.
The true teacher allows all men to live as they interpret life's meaning. Only in the spirit of love, employing tender precepts and quiet examples does he protest.

Every man who raves in anger at his fellow men, either with speach or with pen, reflects the status of his own soul and not the one who is the target of his hate.
Nothing good ever comes from scattering poisonous weeds in the garden of life.

When the Prophet Joseph Smith began to, very carefully tell about the revelations concerning our religion he feared for his life.

We don't have to dislike someone just because they believe differently than we do.

anonymous 3:52

Anonymous said...

Dear Scared--10:53 P.M. First of all I have nothing to do with Warren Jeffs.

"We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where or what they may.
The true teacher allows all men to live as they interpret life's meaning. Only in the spirit of love, employing tender precepts and quiet examples does he protest.

Every man who raves in anger at his fellow men, either with speach or on the weblog, reflects the status of his own soul and not the one who is the target of his hate.
Nothing good ever comes from scattering poisonous weeds in the garden of life.

When the Prophet Joseph Smith began to, very carefully tell about the revelations concerning our religion he feared for his life.

We don't have to dislike someone just because they believe differently than we do.

anonymous 3:52 P.M.

Anonymous said...

Mormons are not a "keep to themselves", live and let live group. That is what they want everyone to think!

They aggressively recruit their members to go convert people to join their group.

Anonymous said...

Did you know that the LDS Church dedided to change the words in the BOOK OF MORMON.Type in Google "changes in the Book of Mormon" You will be amazed!! Lets change the words in Gordan B Hinkleys Last Speech to fit our notions. Do we think we are smarter than God almighty,and the Urim and Thumium. God is watching us from a distance.

me said...

We can all sit here and bicker back and forth about our religious beliefs.
God Loves Us All…
Catholics
Lutherans
Methodist
Mormon
Born Again
Left Footed, Right Footed, etc, etc, etc……
We are God’s children….Let’s remember that

Anonymous said...

Oh yes 8:10 Mormon you are different than the FLDS. But oh how similar you have been to the others. Refuse people baptism if they don't abandon their plural families. Excomunicate people who associate with their friends who don't believe the same. My sister who is a prominent LDS member just had a warning from her Bishop that her temple recommend would be in jepardy because the spies watching her reported that she was associating with me.

polygamous mormon

Anonymous said...

To 2:21 AM;


I feel like I should know you but I can't quite wrap my mind around a name.

You articulate your position well and 1/4 the way through your post I began to be worried that you were on Warrens side.

I'm relieved to know you have knowledge of who Warren is and won't be defending his new religion. :)

Nameless and still alive.

Anonymous said...

To the Weblog Administrator:
Could you post dates along with the times?

Anonymous said...

Amazing, no technical difficulties lately

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah? I've had difficulty posting comments today.

Anonymous said...

4/5/2005 Scared said: Men who participate in polygamy want their cake and eat it too. I think they misspelled a couple of words. Were you trying to say, They want their Kate and Edith too?I thought so.