Monday, April 11, 2005

Ruth and nothing but the Ruth

This thread dedicated to Ruth. Please posts your comments to Ruth here. Ruth, this means you, too!
(Hope this is OK with admin)

53 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ruth
Good riddens, we can communicate in our own area! I still need your correct e-mail address. The Hotmail account did not work for me, if you do not receive my e-mail. I still need to know your family tree. Who was your father, how was Dick related to you?

You spoke of being arrested for trespass, I noted this on the Washington County court records page. It did not explain your circumstances, it only listed the trespass violation. Can you tell me the circumstances of that arrest? Was this to visit the home where one of your children lives?

Please reply, we can continue without criticism here.

JB

Anonymous said...

who is ruth? what did she do? where does she live?

Anonymous said...

Just hang on here, you'll get an eyefull and earfull until you'll have no more questions. Ever again.

Anonymous said...

I am Ruth Cooke. I have had eight children. Four boys and Four girls. I married a man. He did sexually assult my daughter. He did walk away. He was a smooth talking Lier. He is married to a Women in Denver Colorado. She has little girls. one is his. She does not believe what he did to me. She has becume his enabler. Her children will pay the price. I married his buisness partner. I lived with him for one year. He did physacly and mently abuse me. He is also a smooth talking lier. He did help put me in a mentle hospital. I was trying to be good and obedient. I am not letting any one tell me what God does say to me. I think God is good ant telling me what to do. That is why I have a consience. I do walk a lot. I do go around with out a car. I am getting a truck. Some times I wonder what I would do with a truck, considering what I do walking. There are a lot of women out here, who are labled as crazy. There children are taken. One of the men fled to mexico, to excape his just judgement of our government. This is William Black. I am indede the crazy one. I reported abuse. I was put away for what these men did. They had the house. They had the money. They had the lawers. They had the smooth talking speach. They however do not have the light. The women have not forgotten. I heard yesterday, some one had there gun sight's on Sam Barlow, and decided they did not want to go to Jail. I will tell all you, that feel this way: I hope Sam Barlow will be convicted of What he did, and you will not have to pay the debt for him. Murder is murder, no matter how you justify this. We have the witnesses. Let's stop these men. Let's at least tag them, by the state. This one is a molester. This one is a murder. Let's give them the same curtisy as they gave the retards. I was tagged for life. No one can give my dead baby's back to me. No one can give my son's back as young teenage boys. No one can take the sorrow I suffered in that mentle hospital. It is done. It can not be undone. We can give these men a tag tho. Willard Marion Barlow. Murder, of Donna Marie Cooke. Shelly Gene Cooke, Molester of Donna Marie Cooke. Richard Henery Cooke, Murder of Marjene Cooke Holm, and an assisting party to the murder of Donna Marie Cooke. Marvin Roy Cooke, Acompice to attempted murder of Ruth Cooke Barlow, and Mitzi LaRae Barlow. Samuel Barlow, John Y. Barlows son, accompice to murder. covering up truth. Selling women to hell. Steven BArlow, accomplice to murder. Shelly Gene Cooke, Murder of Esther Ruth Cooke, and Kristle Dawn Cooke. Joe c Jessop, Child molester. Dan Barlow Jr. child molester. The witnesses are their, tag them. Good ol' U. S. A. uphold the law. Tag them. that is the least you can do.

Antique Mormon said...

Ruth,

I don't know about all those accusations but one. I know that if it was the Marjene Cooke Holm that was sister to Marvin Cooke, you know as well as anyone that she died of cancer. I visited her in her illness, and when I did she was accompanied by a brother who not only shared her sorrow but helped provide comfort for her. That brother's name was Marvin. Is there two Marvin Cookes? She was also attended by a group of loving sisters, and at least one Registered Nurse, who helped her in her life and living and were with her in her death. Certainly they weren't murderers.

My brother this morning in a conversation remarked that "when you take someone's misinformation and point out the facts, if they still maintain their bias, they are just prejudiced." Facts must be just that, to make it into the pages of real history. After all, history that is not true is just words on a piece of paper.

I do hope that you get feeling better. Follow the advice of your Doctor. Your own health is worth more than the tons of hate that you are packing around. Let them go, and you go and get better.

Men In Black said...

To clear a few things up, certainly not all. William Black did flee to Mexico and is a fugitive. Here is one paragraph from the New Times in Phoenix April of 2003;

The revelation about Jeffs comes at the same time as details surface about how Arizona and Utah law enforcement officials botched the arrest of fugitive polygamist Orson William Black, and subsequently allowed his wives and children -- including his alleged sexual-abuse victims -- to flee to a hideout in Mexico.

Now as for Marvin Cooke, that would be Ruth's brother unless there are two? When Caroline Cooke ran in April of 2001, Les Zitting and I were the ones who retrieved her in Filmore Utah, late one night. Marvin was Caroline's dad. Marvin was under investigation at the time for INCEST, because he took Roberta Mackert his 2nd wife's daughter (Afton) as his third wife. In Utah its called "violation of trust" where by its incest with a step daughter. This was being investigated by Detective Rackley out of the West Valley Police Dept. in case file #00-87790 for any good investigative journalist who wants to check it out.

I don't know all of the history in these postings, but without a doubt the Sam she speaks of needs to do time in prison and he should have a boyfriend whiles he's there by the name of "BUBBA". There is verifiable truth in some of what was stated above.

If you don't like "Ruth and nothing but the Ruth" you can stay on another thread!

Since someone else was curious about MIB, that means "Men in Black" fincenMIB well F.I.N.C.E.N. is a little known dept. out of the Dept. of the Treasury and use to take the heat for the conspiracy theory of black vans and helicopters.

For those that need a name, I'm "Jay Beswick" you can GOOGLE me and all curiousity can be solved or removed.

Ruth can communicate here or she has my email address. RUTH, Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Galaxy Quest).

MIB/JB

Anonymous said...

Dear Ruth
I do not say this to upset you. But I have had a question nagging at me as I read your posts. How did you think that a marriage to your cousin Shelley could produce anything but the tragedy that befell your daughter? How can a marriage of incest begat anything but pain and sorrow? Did no one ever tell you that when relatives reproduce the chances of a healthy baby are very slim? Did you agree to marry Shelley? I was always of the belief that you had asked to be married to each other. And on that note, how can you be so loyal to a religion that not only endorsed an incestuous marriage, but then, when you needed help threw you out to the streets. (Or as you say to the mercy of Old Dick.) Warren apparently does not want you. How can you support this man that has not only rejected you, but failed you as a protector and religious leader?
Name names Ruth, get the Evil you endured out! But realize that you have also made choices in your life, and you face more choices in your future. Please recognize that you are now in control over your own existence. What you choose to do with your life is your own. We have all had to make peace with a past we could not control. It is when you realize your own power that you can CHOOSE to find your own peace and MAKE happiness in YOUR LIFE.

Gone But Not Forgotten

Anonymous said...

ruth does nate not have the same problems that donna had.

Anonymous said...

To anser a few questions, I sat with my sister Marjene, a bit before she died. My sisters know too well why Dick sent us home. A few were rebeliouse. Like my Donna, We Loved her. That is all I will day to marjene. Nathan and Donna, have never had the same diagnosis. Donna Had a head injury. She also had three scares on her from a doctors needle, before she was born. Dr. Astle had to put me to bed to save her then. Her heart rate dropped, and she stableized. I put her in a baby swing. I did sleep. I heard her head hit something. I did get up. Shelly did have her. He said she fell. I took the blame, for ten years, until I was sold to hell.
Nathan did apear to be normal, until he was six or seven months old. His head began to swell. He did use his hands and play, and until he went into Dicks house, He jumped in a jumper, and walked in a walker. I made the Jumper myself. I adjusted this too him. Donna Jumped in a jumper too, until I met Dick Cooke and Willard. She died then. I was winning the battle of life with her until then. I asked her if she wanted to go into the heaven's that day. She did want to keep my sister company. She did smile for the piture. Yes, Donna was being seen by a doctor. She was on home health. She was disabled. With me, the excuse they used was insanity. I too would have starved to death, with no one the wiser. You all seen the affects of these drugs forced upon me. My family is not a good judge of me. I was always retardedto them. I catered to Marie. I went to her for counsel. I had my sister on a pedistle, until I met Dick. What did I care about a weakness of critazisim. I loved her and I thought she loved me, Until she threw me out, for reading Uncle Rulons sermon Book. I leave the door open for my sister to debate. She did not tell me why she wanted to put me in Donna's wheel chair. I went to the street instead. I was angry then. I am not now. I love my family. I did then. I do now. I know what they did. They do too. They are not accountable to me. Jesus does have the final say. I am required to forgive all men.
I was raped by Shelly Gene Cooke, Before I was married. I did scream and swear at him. A year went by before I said any thing. I was screamed at then. He was better than my father. I was the one who did not speak. You think, this, you think that, I what I heard that day. I was very scared. I could have talked. I just did not know it then. I wanted out of my fathers house. I had a house and children with him. I did not know what he did behind my back, until Sam Barlow, and Shelly took me to kingman. They wanted to put me in Jail then. I walked in on Shelly Molesting Donna the night we came home. I did have enough to talk to the Lady then. I was very confused Why Sam Barlow would want me in Jail. I went to see Uncle Rulon then. He did help me. I loved him then. I love him now. I did not know Dick real well then.
I will say to the one who speaks of facts and biase. I will day in Gods court, there is only one thing that counts with him. Truth. Truth. Truth stands forever. Heaven and earth must pass away. Truth willstand forever. In God court, There is only one witness. You. Unfortunatly, on the earth we have only partial knowledge.
I will ask this about my sister Marjene: How many of you said she died of cancer because of who she was. I heard this, of her. Cancer is caused from the cancor of the soul. Marie told her, "When you get on the other side, will you ask them to send me a baby" Susan was ill. She said, "maybe I will get there first" In the hospital, a blound haired man, came and told Susan, You will be ok. And with the abortionist Doctors in Dixie, Who can say for sure, she had cancer. Yes they took her stomic out. Yes, Milton drank. BUT WHO SENT US HOME BECAUSE WE LOVED HER?
AND WHAT UNCLE RULON SAID MADE HER HAPPY. Like my Donna, She was obedient to her Lord. There is two casuiltys of the war. My son walks with me. Who will Join the ranks. I have made a covnent not too fight. I also have recieved a copy of two film clips. The first, is good. I have tears in my eyes. The words are the same. The veiw is the same. In one I do have tears In one, I have none.
THE VIDIO CAN NOT BE ENTERED AS EVIDENCE. LIKE FLORA, THEY CAN DOCTOR THE SHOW. BY, BY, and my faithful wonderful son. I Love You. Ruth
And too my texas audience, I have a william Cody too. He does not drink, like your wild bill. I think we could dance with you. How about it all you Texans, would you like to waltze a tango, like George straight sings a tune. I look good in a texas hat. I look good in texas boots. I look good on a texas horse.
And to the one who wanted to know how we, built our temple, I will tell you. One day at a time.
It is like this with our family names. YOU LEARNED THE A. B. C.'S
WE LEARNED THE ALPHABET. AND SING THE LANGUAGE. I AM AMERICAN, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

Anonymous said...

I think I've figured out how Ruth thinks about life and death:

"I asked her if she wanted to go into the heaven's that day. She did want to keep my sister company. She did smile for the piture."

"Marie told her, 'When you get on the other side, will you ask them to send me a baby?'"

Sorry about that bump on the head but she did smile for the picture so she must want to go to heaven?

Obviously Ruth (and whatever children she may have left) needs professional help. Maybe JB (MIB) can connect a human resource, outside of the FLDS society, that can provide the proper protective therapy needed to help her.

Anonymous said...

Ruth,I was one of the ones kidding around about trading you for Thelma.I apologize if I offended you,Thelma,Bill or any blog readers. I thought you might be able to shed some light, in your own way, on a variety of subjects having to do with polygamy. I knew if I participated in that "trade" you would come tearing onto this site strong and I was right. I saw you last week kicking a bowling ball down main street carrying a bottle of apple juice. You come across what looked like some nails or something on the sidewalk.I noticed, though no one was looking,that you stopped and put them in a safe place so anyone coming along after you on bikes wouldn't get flat tires.That was considerate of you and shows that instinctivey you care. On a different note.You do need to get with jb or someone and write your whole story down so it can be verified and checked out.That was the reason I prodded you to start posting for real,so you could go on the record. Also as we get older we tend to remember things wrong.For instance,it wasn't William Black in the van your brother Orlin was killed in as you said,it was his brother Brian.


I wish you the best of luck. Just me.

Anonymous said...

I would have to say she's got a lot of things wrong. How could her testimony ever be considered reliable or admissable?

Stinger said...

It says alot about the warrenites that Ruth seems to have become their main spokesperson. She almost seems to be the most lucid blogger of them all.



"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

Anonymous said...

3:12 pm,I don't believe that anyone would deny that Ruth is far and above the most prolific writer of all who claim Warren as their spokesman for God.

Just me.

Anonymous said...

I am doing my civic duty, upon U.E.P. Property. I was arrested for wanting to see, my children in utah, and Ariziona. I figured no matter what they charge me quilty, or inacent of trespassing, my duty will be done. I would do it any how for our bishop. That is three good reasons for doing good. If I afended any one, by praising Texas products. I apoligise. I look at it like this. I brought a little bit of Texas home with me. Texas Justace in a hat. Tesas Justace think of that. Why they think to accuse my sons. I know they are the Inacent ones. And Linda Walker, I can always tell when you are on this blogg. I will tell you this: You may insist that my sister only go through an attorney, but you do not take care of her. You are sharing Flora's drug money, Why the Great State of Arizonia foots the bill. Tax time is apon us. You did use public sympathy money, to run your show. My sister is on houseing. She is on S.S.I. She is on food stamps. You paid the gas to exploit the disabled. She was on housing in Flag staff, I think of it like this: She was in Flag staf. I was in Fredonia{which means free women} She lives on Red Fox Road, in Pheonix. Val lives upon Liberty Lane.

shelly said...

To the Ruth and nothing but the Ruth, let's stick to the truth and nothing but the truth. You have lumped me in with those who you wish to distroy. This was a bad move on your part. I am Shelly Cooke and the exhusband of Ruth Cooke. I dont know the truth behind all of the accusation of other, I dont have all the facts. I do know there are some very serious faltes in your memory of how things were with Donna, Ester, And Kristal. You accuse me of molesting Donna. This was investigated by the Mojave county sheriffs dept. and found to be without a doute a false accusation. You also know in your heart of hearts that I am not that kind of a person. Go to the county records and you will find that after acomplete and thourough investigation Donna Marie Cooke was never molested by anyone up until the day I left her in your care. When I was kicked out of my home and all of my belongings burned.

Next we need to correct the accusation of Donna's fall. You know where the swing was but you need to remember that you were laying on the sofa next to her I was in the bedroom asleep when I heard her crying from the fall. I came out of the room and you were holding her. If you remember right we called 911 and the paramedics and a police officer responded. they determined that she was ok and told us to take her to hildale local clinic the next morning, which we did. Aunt Lydia examined her and said "she was all right" but that if she had any other problems we were to take her to Dr. Twiggs in St. George. We took her to the Dr. but he said that she looked alright but that if she started swelling or vomitting to bring her back. At 5:00pm she vomited and we took her back into the Dr.'s office This was about 15 hours after the fall, she was given a C.A.T. scan and put on a flight for life to go to the hospital in Pheonix, Az.

Ester Ruth Cooke contracted RSV a viral loung infection and was treated at Dixie Regional Medical center she was sent home after a seven day treatment course, but we had to take her back the same day because she turned blue. She was treated again for RSV and kept in the hospital to see if she contracted it again. Which she did and they flew her to pheonix for further treatment. She went through the seven day treatment again and we stayed seven more days at the Ronald McDonald house to see if she got it again. when we got her home she had R.S.V. again and was under medical care at the hospital until she died.

As to the accusation of me raping you before we were married, you and I are the only ones who know it was medicaly impossible.

A note to gone but not forgotten. We married becouse the prophet told us to. In the religion we were raised in, people are taught from the time they are knee high to a tadpole that the profit speeks gods wishes. My father was against the marriage from the getgo. The prophet asured us there wouldn't be any genetic problem due to us being cousins. We believed the prophet. To go against his askings was considered blasfamy.

Shelly Cooke

Anonymous said...

Thank You Shelly, we needed some light on the Ruth situation. And it's always good to have more input from those who have an insiders view and can actually speak in understandable sentences.

--Inquisitive

Anonymous said...

that was helpful, thanks shelly. Any idea why ruth wanted to be so vindictive?

Anonymous said...

I believe these girls were raped. I believe their children are molested en masse. Why? This cult is dominated a 'prophet', men in control over their 'wives', and wives in complete submission to husbands. Children completely dominated by everyone around them. What little girl would believe it was her right to tell these 'men of god' not to touch her. Raised to be dominated - are we suprised they are?

The woman is bred not only to believe she can be given to any man by this 'prophet', but taken away and given to another - she expects this level ov control over her. Her submission to it is drilled into her as a sign of obedience and plays on her desire to be pleasing to God and to 'his prophet'.

I believe that Ruth has seen the men of her family be sexually innappropriate on a level we cannot even appreciate. I am certain the women - have done their fair share of bickering amongst themselves, cruelty to each others children and to each other.

But the men bear the responsiblity of fouling up their families to such a degree as cannot be fathomed by us outside it.

Jeffs and his bullies under the guise of a desire for God have shamed their women, driven away their sons, ripped holes in the hearts of their daughters and dishonored all that is righteous. They are like Pirates in the Desert, plundering, conquering and controlling all they set their eye upon.

shelly said...

Ruth and I have had three little girls die and one disabled boy who is now 10 years old. We are not allowed to see. She also has a little girl from a marriage where she was the second wife and is also not alowed to see her. This after being molested by her dad. hHe spent five years in the prison at point of the mountain in Salt Lake City Utah. I dont know what happened when she was with her second husband but I have heard some bad stories.

Anonymous said...

Shelly,
You obviously did not understand my posting. I am from "The Creek" and very glad to be FROM there. Therefore, I understand the workings of that community well. I also remember that there was always a problem with incest in both Jack Cooke, Lynn Cooke, and many other families . If it was not what the fathers where doing, it was the children "playing nasty". Tell a stranger that there was no indecent behavior on your part. Perhaps they would believe, I tend to believe both of you are lying to yourselves as well as the rest of us. You both have things to cover up. You both said yes to marriage. You both reproduced children that neither of you are taking care of! No matter what your so called prophet promised you. The fact is that your children have problems. You both are pointing fingers at each other and anyone else that gets in the way. I ask you to stand up and take responsibility for your actions. Then you can heal, and become better.
Gone but not Forgotten
(side note: People seem to think that because we are no longer in the community, we have forgotten what went on there.)

Anonymous said...

And Shelly, why you are telling what men, do in my church, remember one of those men was you. You may blame all you want. It was you I walked in on molesting my daughter. Cathy said it too. It was never tought in our church by any one that it was permissible to do this horrible evil deed. You were an adult. You can blame no one for your evil. Rulon Jeffs is the one who helped me get away from you. He never upheld your filthy evil. In the medical records in st. george, they said that it was not genetics that was the matter with my children. You came up here trying to blame Dr. Twiggs. You came up here trying to blame every one. You put me away. You, Willard, and Dick. I have the papers and your testimonie. What do you mean it was impossible for you to rape me medically. I had seven children with you, did I not? You also tried to get me pregnant again, after I walked in on you Molesting My daughter Donna. cathy waited to long to talk. She was threatened by you. When Donna was taken to be checked, they looked in the wrong place. I seen you; well the details are too horrible for a public posting. You tried to take my sons too. you and Willard. I have it on paper. You tried to say, I was retarded. I will tell you this. I know the truth. So do you. And to the one who accuses me from the creek: You know nothing about me. Have you spent ten years feeding a child who had her sckull fractured. I did not willingly give up my children. Be careful how you judge me. If you are one who pretendes to follow Warren Jeffs, Why do you judge and critazise. I lived with Willard for one year. I have never had such a miserable time in my life. I was branded as a retard, and all his relitives never gave me a chance. I say to my God, "I wish I had never met the man." Shelly truth will prevail. Willard truth is truth. Keep this in mind, When all is said and done, Truth will stand on its own.

Anonymous said...

All of this that has been published is very interesting yes molsetation takes place at the creek. But as for Shelly being resposible for molesting his daughter you are crazy. This man lost his family and everything he owned when Ruth and nothing But the Ruth ran to the prophet and told lies. While brothers stood by and watched his belongings burned and then the powers incharge at the creek with money steeped in and fought in court and Shelly lost his children to brainwashing and to a society that wants to have control over everthing that you think and do. Where was he so called family hidinig behind there freedom of chice. HAHA. Most of his family still lives there and now relizes how absurd this all was 7 years ago. As his brother and I helped him through this he now has seen the light and no longer needs their false guidance to survive life. We have always been there for Shelly thru the court battles through the loss and the rebuilding of his current life. As for molesting children that is a joke, he has been like a second father to our children so wake up Ruth and nothing but the Ruth. This is the truth.

Anonymous said...

And Debbie, You may have him. I am glad he is with you, and not with me. His stuff was never burned. It is in Dicks house. I read your letter too. I hope you keep him. This will keep him out of my life.

Anonymous said...

um, Shelly. The next time you decide Skunk Canyon is a good place for your "romantic" getaway. Please make sure to take your's and your girlfriends underwhere back with you.

It kinda ruined the peaceful natural atmosphere of the place with all the clothing hanging in the jumiper Trees.

It's also kind of embarasing being that I was fairly young when I came accross it while hiking.

oh, do you still label your underwear?

Anonymous said...

AS FOR MY COMMENT I PUBLISHED YESTERDAY. I AM NOT DEBBIE I AM SHELLY'S SISTER IN LAW. I AM MARRIED TO A COOKE BOY SHELLY'S BROTHER. FOR ALMOST 19 YRS. WE WERE THERE FOR SHELLY WHEN THE CREEK OUSTED HIM AND HIS FAMILY SHUNNED HIM. WE HELPED HIM START A LIFE ANEW. HE HAS BEEN THE MOST WONDERFUL UNCLE TO OUR 4 CHILDREN. NONE OF YOU KNOW SHELLY NOW OR THEN I THINK VERY WELL. I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS, HE HAS NEVER JUDGED AND ALWASYS BEEN THERE AND WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIM. AND THIS IS THE WAY IT WILL ALWAYS BE. PROUD TO MARRIED TO A COOKE BOY, S. COOKE.

Anonymous said...

so, if you never had such a bad time as with Willard, are you saying that Shelly wasn't so bad?

Anonymous said...

Wow, what a slanderous web sight Ruth. It also seems the people on this web know you personally, I do not. From what I understand you were "put away", I'm assuming the mental instiuttion. I do know, a person who is not ill will not be admitted to the hospital. I'm sure mental institutions are the same. You have made clames against Richard and later clamed Marjene did die of cancer. You also clame you were raped by your exhusband Shelly before you were married. If you were raped by Shelly, why did you marry him and not convict him? You sate that you and Shelly had seven children together. Knowing it takes 9 months to have a baby, you must have stayed with him for some time. Or maybe you are lieing.

Shelly, I see you came forward to try to clear your good name. Your exwife seems alfully hate full. It might be comforting to read in the bible, Matthew 6:9-14

I wll go back to Ruth becouse this is her web sight. Here are some more questions I would like answered. If Warren Jeffs saved you, Why were you married to a man worse than the one you were married to first. If it is true that this religion practices placement marrage and your riligious leader married you to your cousin, does he not read the bible? Leviticus 18:1-30 clearly stats you don't marry kin. Why would your riligious leader go directly against the bible? If he goes against the bible, why do you fallow Him?

As for gone but not forgotten. A suggested reading for you is Mattew 7:1-5


For the person who found the underware in Skunk Canyon. Why did YOUR mind go striaght to pervertion? I would have thought the clothing blew off the line in a good storm, a suitcase fell off a car durring travel, or maybe Shelly lost them durring a hike. Why does your mind go straight to sex?

As for MIB. If you are a part of the government, why are only the men held accountable for the polygamy? It seems to me that the women are just as guilty as the men. In the case with Tom Green, the wives participated just as much as he did. It seems odvious that the men and the women know it is wrong, otherwise they would not hide.

Anonymous said...

Wow, what a slanderous web sight Ruth. It also seems the people on this web know you personally, I do not. From what I understand you were "put away", I'm assuming the mental instiuttion. I do know, a person who is not ill will not be admitted to the hospital. I'm sure mental institutions are the same. You have made clames against Richard and later clamed Marjene did die of cancer. You also clame you were raped by your exhusband Shelly before you were married. If you were raped by Shelly, why did you marry him and not convict him? You sate that you and Shelly had seven children together. Knowing it takes 9 months to have a baby, you must have stayed with him for some time. Or maybe you are lieing.

Shelly, I see you came forward to try to clear your good name. Your exwife seems alfully hate full. It might be comforting to read in the bible, Matthew 6:9-14

I wll go back to Ruth becouse this is her web sight. Here are some more questions I would like answered. If Warren Jeffs saved you, Why were you married to a man worse than the one you were married to first. If it is true that this religion practices placement marrage and your riligious leader married you to your cousin, does he not read the bible? Leviticus 18:1-30 clearly stats you don't marry kin. Why would your riligious leader go directly against the bible? If he goes against the bible, why do you fallow Him?

As for gone but not forgotten. A suggested reading for you is Mattew 7:1-5


For the person who found the underware in Skunk Canyon. Why did YOUR mind go striaght to pervertion? I would have thought the clothing blew off the line in a good storm, a suitcase fell off a car durring travel, or maybe Shelly lost them durring a hike. Why does your mind go straight to sex?

As for MIB. If you are a part of the government, why are only the men held accountable for the polygamy? It seems to me that the women are just as guilty as the men. In the case with Tom Green, the wives participated just as much as he did. It seems odvious that the men and the women know it is wrong, otherwise they would not hide.

Anonymous said...

to 9:53

Its amazing how you accuse people so much on a situation that you were not even there.

The fact is the place in Skunk Canyon was out in the trees. At the time no vehicles could access that particular spot.

Lets see, about 1 mile from where Shelly was living at the time. And underwear with his name in it and also female underwear. There was only one set of each. You do the math. Being there was no water or stream I seriously doubt they were swimming.

The fact is I remember Shelly for as long as I can remember and he isn’t the nice wonderful uncle that people want him to be here.

He was running around with Ruth doing their thing for months before they had to be married because they had fornicated.. He courted and seduced his own cousin. Their Father’s were brothers.

This was no surprise to anyone. We all knew it and talked about it before they ever got married. You want to take a shot at people because they tell the truth? You might want to actually know the truth before you talk crap that you don’t know.

I was there and I do know. I know that Shelly put Ruth through hell. If there was ever a case of a man pushing a woman over the edge mentally it would be Shelly. He would take what he told her that was told him by the church leadership and tell her what he wanted saying it came from them.

Sorry if this isn’t all the warm fuzzy feeling you wanted in making Shelly into something he is not. But then if your allowing him free reign around your children then that’s your responsibility and failure as a parent when you learn the truth by experience.

I hope Shelly is doing better and that he can move on and have a good life. If he does not acknowledge the truth and reality then he will not be able to move on and his past will come back to haunt him.

Shelly I hope and wish for the best for you.

Anonymous said...

Yup, I learned the truth the hard way. I did not believe Cathy when she said that of him. She is dead now. He threatened her. I thought she was nutty. She is dead now. Dead like his daughters. Dead, and who knows the truth more than him. Yup, I learned the hard way. I do not care one whit, who you are tht defend him, just so as you do it so professionaly, that you keep him away from me.
And to the one who said that we were playing nasty, before we were married: what do you know about what went on. I do not play that way. It would do you well to not judge me. I was judged that day too. no one asked me. They told there story's, about me. Just like now. What do you realy know about me. Did you take the time to help a girl, who every one knew her father was mollesting, or did you hide in critazisim too.
And maybe you also would trade a person for another.
Let him who is with out sin, cast the first stone.
Truth is truth and will be forever into eternity.

Anonymous said...

Ruth, you need to read the scriptures in the abible and the Book of Mormon and learn to move on and quit being so hateful and vindictive. Your life with Shelly is over he has accepted that his life with you is over. and is moving on. you need to deal with issues and quit letting leaders of the church brainwash you into what too think and feel. you do have a mind and you need to heal. Please think about this there is no way to get to god if you continue this vengful way. Vengenace belongs to the Lord not man. Any wrong that has been done to you will be righted in heaven you know this. hang in there and do not blame the rest of the world for everthing that has happened to you. you did participate in your decisions right or wrong.

shelly said...

sometime in life we stop and look back to see that we could have made some better decisions and treated others with a little more kindness and respect. We all make mistakes. If at any time in my life I have hurt Ruth it was not my intention to do so. She was a wonderful mother to our children when I knew her. She has had a hard row to hoe and unless you have walked a mile in her shoes you need to respect her as a child of god. let's not kick her when she is down. If she has a footprint on her back with my print on it I am truley sorry. For anything I may have blindley done to knock her down or make her life tough I am truley sorry. She has lost three girl in death and one more to willard. She still has a handicaped boy who she can not help, and we choose to knock her for her beleifs or medical condition. Please let's give her some room to live her life and heal as she needs.

Anonymous said...

I am not as down and out as you may think. Enjoy those that love you Shelly Gene Cooke, befor the truth of what you did to my daughter, Catches up to you. It was not the foot print in my back that was the propblem. It was the thing in my daughters mouth, you could not hide. She is in heaven. She is where you will never touch her agian. You too must cross the path of death, and face your maker for your deeds. With him there is no lies! Just you, him and your memory. UNWOUND. Excape that if you can with your lies.

Anonymous said...

Who needs Jerry Springer? Rock on Ruth and Shelley!
GBNF

onthestreet said...

Anonymous said...
I would have to say she's got a lot of things wrong. How could her testimony ever be considered reliable or admissable?

4/15/2005 11:39 AM

Street's Reply: The world has alot of things wrong, and how in a court of law can any testimony ever be considered reliable or admissible? This is why there is so much perjury in your courts, because there is so much wrong, without a prophet, without a light, just feeling your way in the darkness.

Anonymous said...

Yes , lets count our blessings for a prophet. I would be forever condemned to a mentle hospital, if it were just a matter of the courts, where money is what matters and not truth. OR PUBLIC GOSSIP OPINIONS. How do you like this song,"We thank thee oh, God for a prophet, to guide us in these latter days" I took a test today, with a group of sycoligests, that have been in bussiness for seventy years. I did this with a bogus name. Public gossip, and a general sycoligist had condemned me on a filthy mans word. I had no honest court case. It was done behind my back. My daughters molester, the key witness. I had no chance. This test was very , very intersting. THERE WAS NOT ONE NEGATIVE THING ABOUT IT. NOT ONE. NOT ONE. SO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU JUDGE YOUR NEIGHBORS. Besides, just because gossip had, had the rounds with my court case, and I was the last to hear about it. Shelly Gene Cooke being the key witness, did not make my brain think less. That was a Cooke trait. Wemen are my property. He even tried to tell others I was his posesion. Dick tried this too. I am owned by no- one. How ever, if you people in texas, do honestly want to trade me for Thelma, I would come visit for a week. She could visit my City. It may do us both some good. Thelma may enjoy this also. My mountians are Gorgous. Maybe she could try out the indians healling cerimony. This was a very enjoyable experience to me. Make sure you have on your dancing boots and would like to sing. This is my faviorite thing, and I would not want any negativity involved. maybe we could sing up a storm.

Anonymous said...

onthestreet,

We are not "feeling our way in the darkness" if we have the Lord, who is our Light.

onthestreet said...

RIGHT, IFFFFFFF.

sword drill said...

onthestreet,

"You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgement seat. It is written:

'As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God'. "
Romans 14:10-11

onthestreet said...

Your Lord say: Judge righteously. Certainly, if we don't use our judgement and intellect to help others, then we are as low as the animals. I thought you a better scriptorian than that. It is not 'looking down on a brother' to help them to weigh matters regarding the soul, that some may see more clearly. Then we have accomplished something. Agreed?

onthestreet said...

Your Lord say: Judge righteously. Certainly, if we don't use our judgement and intellect to help others, then we are as low as the animals. I thought you a better scriptorian than that. It is not 'looking down on a brother' to help them to weigh matters regarding the soul, that some may see more clearly. Then we have accomplished something. Agreed?

sword drill said...

Onthestreet,

"Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace."

Ephesians 4:2-3

onthestreet said...

Okay.

Anonymous said...

Man, who needs the tabloids or a soap opera? Ruth and her cronies make up more stories than any award winning soap writer ever has! Lets call it "Daytime Ruth" or "Short Creek Turns Ruthless"! Hey, we could even have an awards ceremony every year! Instead of winning an Oscar, you would win the "Ralph"!! Hey, maybe we could get Jim Cary to produce the show! ( he did a great job with Liar, Liar..!) Do we have a sponsor?? Anyone???

Anonymous said...

I would remind you, with your tabloid pune, God is the Judge of us every one: Upon the earth it is prmitted to slander, and then your given your due, Willard, Dick, and there underhnded crew, will have been handled. God will do this. Escape this if you can. We all die. WE all have to account. We all have to pay the price for our deeds. What have you written up for your creed? Will Jesus or Lucifer claim your soul?

Anonymous said...

"Ralph! Ralph!" (clap, clap, clap)

GBNF said...

I heard a little story the other day. I heard that it was you, Ruth molesting your children. Is that what has driven you crazy? Passing on what was given to you?

Anonymous said...

"A society can be judged by how they treat their weakest link. Shame on the FLDS for the way Ruth has been treated. She does not deserve to be kicked out on the street. If you had been through the "brain-wash" teachings of Warren Jeffs, and believed it ...and knew without a doubt you would never make it or be "lift-ed up"...what would you do, I would go mental. As a matter of fact, why do you think that most of the women won't stand up to it...how would you like to be on the street with 10 or so children and have them intirely depending on you for food and housing...and you have no answers.

Anonymous said...

I think that most of the women don't stand up because they don't want the responsibility of real life. I think that it is easier to be in a state of misery with someone else taking the blame for their lives.

I think that some of us were raised with the same "brain-washing" and abuse and some of us did not go mental. Some of us chose to do something different.

Polygamy is for people that do not want responsibility. More people in the relationship, more places to place blame. No one has to be responsible for what they do. Some other woman is always the "trouble maker". Someone elses children are the ones causing trouble in the family. There is always a scapegoat. Even if nobody beleives it, but the one telling it.

rumor-has-it said...

To 5/20/05 11:34 Apparently you have absolutely no idea what plural marriage is...it is not for people who do not want responsibility. It is the biggest responsibility a person could ever have. It takes a bigger man or woman than you can imagine and can be a sweeter experience than a single marriage could ever give. And it is very practical. But some people are not meant to live it. It takes a person with a big capacity, can you imagine raising a family of 10 or 50 or 100 children? Most "Americans" can't see their way past one or two children.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, I have personal knowledge of plural marriage. I speak of realism. You speak of idealism. The reality is that ya'll think your being responsible, you think you are working toward a greater good, I have never seen it work where everyone is happy.

If you think it does, show me one example. One honest example of happiness in plural marriage where the people involved are not saying to themselves,"I suffer now so I can be rewarded in the after life!"

News flash: If you can't make yourself happy here, how can you be happy there?
Do you really think that everything will magically change after you die?
Are you not the same person? Is God going to change something you could not figure out for yourself?

HardHeaded said...

I don't think anyone could live with ruth, therefore, she has nowhere to go. She's a total maniac and very uncohabitable. She probably don't deserve to be kicked out on the street but man, if you can't live with someone, you can't live with them.