Saturday, March 26, 2005

Lost Boys

I read that the FLDS community releases boys as young as 15-16 years old into the larger society to fend for themselves when they do not conform to the groups' standards for behavior. Does anyone have any information on that?

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Contact Help the Child Brides
http://helpthechildbrides.com

or direct link to "Lost Boys".

http://helpthechildbrides.com/stories/lostboys.htm

I foot note: Jon Krakauer is in legal litigation on behalf of his adopted son - a "lost boy".

Anonymous said...

As one of these "Lost Boys", I can tell you that for the most part this is true. I was 18 when I was told that I had to be out of town by nightfall, and had no financial assistance whatsoever. It was like being abandoned in a new world. Some boys have been asked to leave there at 14-17 years of age, whick makes it harder to get jobs out in the real world, or get around or do anything with courts or schools because you have to have your legal gaurdian there, and yet they don't want anything to do with you. Some parents are more caring though and will help their sons find a place to stay, or at least talk to them once in a while and ask them if they are doing ok. But for the most part the people that still live in Colorado City and are still controlled by Warren's radical fanatical behavior treat the "Lost Boys" with disgust and won't even talk to you when you walk up to them to just give them a friendly "hello" now for all you faithful fanatics that get on this site and put in your two bits, I know you'll contradict my words, and I'm not saying that EVERYONE out there is like this. I'm saying for the most part, and you know that I'm right. Besides, how would you know? You've never been out on your own as a young kid.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:21:

If you don't mind my asking, what was your alleged offense?

Anonymous said...

Lost boys bull! I hope society is not controlled by your radical finactical behavior,It would be so revealing. give me a break.

Anonymous said...

To anon 11:34

You will soon see how radical and fanatical behavior can be when a federal judge awards punitive damages against the FLDS and the “lost boys” will be come millionaires while the FLDS is broke.

Especially since Warren Jeffs (who administers the trust fund) will not appear in court to fight them.

They will own the property and they will kick you out!! Revenge can be sweet

Anonymous said...

Lost Boys:

Warren Jeffs is the sole creator of the "Lost Boys" phenomenom.

Prior to the psychotic rule of Warren Jeffs, there were no lost boys per se. Prior to Warren, there were occasional runaway boys, as in any society, but certainly not the epidemic Warren has created.

Now that Warren's gone to Texas the situation has improved and will continue to improve on all fronts. The Trust is being reorganized and Warren is losing his leverage on these naive people.

It's a sad commentary that the parent's responsible for these children allowed Warren Jeffs to intimidate them to act with such indifference regarding their charges. Teenagers are at times difficult to deal with, but patience and lots of nonjudgemental love generally prevail in dealing with the temporary insanity of some teenagers.

There's only one way to deal with the insanity of Warren Jeffs, hold him responsible for the many lives he has damaged.

Anonymous said...

If thats what makes you tick go for it, shame on you,you poor sap!Lets see you pay $1,000,000 a year in taxes.They pay their fair share, Pease get a job. Warren Jeffs is not the sole creator of these lost boys they are........

Anonymous said...

I was also kicked out of the communities of Hildale and Colorado City. I am not bitter, fact is it was one of the best things that ever happened to me. I am getting an education and moving on with my life. The only bad thing is I can't see my family. I hope that one day they will see the light on the things that are happening. The only thing that the Lost Boys lawsuit is doing is letting the public know more of what is happening in Short Creek. If they do get punitive damages they probably will never see it because the church is broke. If they did get land and they kicked residents out of the houses occupied. Well, I guess then they are no better than Warren Jeffs themselves.

Quiet Canadian said...

Thankyou lost Boy of 2:51. A person Seeking revenge is just showing that he is as much a villan as the one who hurt him. I don't think anybody would like to see anyone kicked out of their home.

Anonymous said...

the leaders do whatever they can to get these boys to feel worthless and to just give up and "go away" leave their house that they have spent nearly 10 years building only to never be married or have children..The house is worthless without having children to fill it

Anonymous said...

Yes, Warren IS directly responsible for the phenomenon of the "lost boys". Yes, most of them have chosen to go their own way, and MOST left before they were kicked out (some were kicked out without cause). However, I believe that some of them would have made their way back to home after "testing the waters" had they been welcome and loved. Some parents tried to show love to their wayward sons and were threatened publicly with losing their families and being kicked out themselves if they continued to welcome back their sons.
To the blogger of 2:51: KUDOS for getting on with your life and not being bitter about the gift you were handed in not having to live there. It is one thing to be hurt once by Warren. It is entirely another thing to be hurt by it the rest of your life and go around nursing the wound and let it dictate your actions and create bitterness. I wish you could counsel the rest of the guys. Guys: DON'T be a pawn for the power-hungry bitter people who want to use you as a front to inflict more pain on the rest of the poor unsuspecting masses at the Creek. They will turn you into professional victims and your life will be nothing better than a freak side show over which you have no control. Instead, take the control that you were never allowed over your own lives and futures. Go to college. Volunteer at a homeless shelter. Fall in love. But PLEASE don't wallow in your own bitterness and become drug addicted alcoholics who cry in their own drinks. YOU ARE THE ONE who will decide what you will be. Don't ever give that power to anyone else again. No matter which side of this brouhaha they are on.

Anonymous said...

In response to the anon. 11:13 A.M., my offense was stating my opinion of how I felt about what Warren was doing to the people that I grew up around and cared about. My offense was owning a cell phone. My offense was talking to a girl on my cell phone. My offense was listening to Phil Colllins. My offense was watching the dvd sets of the series of "friends" on a 4 inch dvd player in my closet, because that was my only private retreat. My offense was wanting to make more of myself and go to college after it was deamed "unholy". My offense was hanging out with my friends. My offense was talking to girls once in a while just to be social, nothing more. My offense was treating the people that live "over the hill" (centennial park) as normal people, and not shunning my relatives from there and "treating them as snakes" as Warren wanted us to do. I could go on and on about these "offenses" I committed while living in Colorado City. All the good I ever did there will never be brought up, because I was just a pawn on Warren's chessboard, and any good I did was his doing, and he was the only one who deserved praise for it. I have nothing against the people of Colorado City. They indeed are good people for the most part, but there are the fanatical leaders who are poisoning the place. I am not looking for any hand outs whatsoever. Some of the "lost boys" do though, and I think it's sad that their parents will just let them rot away like they never existed, not give them any encouragment now that they live on their own, and chose a different lifestyle. A parent's love should never be conditional. It doesn't end when the child moves from the home, and neither should communication. I know that parents of some of my friends won't even answer a phone call from their son. If you people that still live there want people that leave there to not be bitter, then look in the mirror and ask yourself, " have I treated the boys and men and women that have chosen to live in a different place than I with the same respect and dignity that I myself would like to be treated in return?" I think that you will be surprised at the look you will see on your own face if you answer yourself honestly. It seems that most of the people from Colorado City who I still even consider my friends look through me as if I am invisible and won't even dare shake my hand, for fear that perhaps I have the plague or some disease that spreads like wildfire. All I want is truth to prevail, and to be treated as a friend as I used to be. My heart hasn't changed a bit. I still have the core values that only deep down you can know are right. I have thrown the fanaticism off of my back. That is the only difference. I too beleive that getting kicked out of there was the best things that ever happened to me. Nearly all the us "lost boys" would agree. But I care for friends and family that are still there. And ya I had some problems when I was there, but what teen doesn't? The only legal offense I committed while living there was minor consumption. And yes I should be held responsible. But Half the men there still drink just to cope with the crap that Warren is putting them and their families through. I know that that is why I drank. Now that I don't have to put up with it, I have stopped drinking alcohol. I am truly happy now. I can actually plan for my own future! And let me tell you, that is the grandest privledge that this great nation has to offer to any of us. Our destiny is in OUR hands. Not Warren's. By our actions and choices in life will it be determined by God only if we will be granted the opportunity to meet him, or be damned. No mortal man should, or will ever have that power.

Anonymous said...

Amen and Amen 2:01

Native Texan said...

9:21, 2:51, and 2:01,

I am deeply touched by what you have been through and what you have shared. I can see that none of you are "Lost Boys" any more! Hold strong to the Lord and continue drawing close to Him.

Ephesians 3:16-21
Native Texan

Stinger said...

It seems like being kicked out of the warrenite group is probably the best thing that could happen to someone. It is probably just as hard trying to build a new life on the "outside" as it would be trying to figure out who your "daddy" is each week, as a warrenite.

Anonymous said...

The Lost boys story is heart wrenching to say the very least. Chapter two is about the lost girls. There are lost girls with the same story. Chapter three is the story of the lost parents. I know that all of you bloggers out there will probably just laugh when I say that there are many heartbroken parents who love their children. They are held in bondage as well. I am not making excuses for them, for they ought to all stand up at once and scream "enough of this". They can't because all that they have left would be gone by the end of the week. They should do it anyway, but that is easier said than done.
Some day in time those same parents will be so proud of some of you boys. Go make something of yourself. Go be decent and honorable. Find someone to help you, to love you, to understand you. Find a way to get over your bad habits. You aren't the only people who have had bad habits and there are plenty of folks willing to share their experiences with you of how to get over them.
Warren is just an easy person to blame. He deserves lots of the blame but not all of it. No matter how ugly it has been, he can't make you not go to school, not seek a profession, not fall in love. He can't make you shun your friends, or change the way you worship, or dishonor your parents. He can't make you pay all of your money to his church nor stop you from opening a savings account for your old age. He can't decide if you buy a car, how late you stay up or what you watch on tv. He no longer controls your life, so take control of your own life. If all of the successful people in the United States that were kicked out of their families and churches were to have a reunion in Utah, the State of Utah would more than double in population. You could probably add Arizona to that mix as well. Those successful people stopped blaming the ones who truly did deserve the blame and looked forward into the future. There is one of them just about everywhere you turn. God bless you boys. You will be the leaders of tomorrow, and when Warren has long faded in history written of tyrants, your good works will be admired by generations who have thrilled at the way that you dealt with adversity.

Anonymous said...

I want to encourage some of you so called lost boys. The bond between a parent and their children is a bond of love. I am sure your parents, especially your mothers have a deep feeling of love for you. Right now they may be caught in a predicament where thry cannot acknoledge you or show their affection for you. You boys need to be there always willing to help your folks when the time comes that they need you.
I am a parent I took myself from the Warren regime, when things began to get strange in his teachings. I hold strong to my religeous values. Some of my girls are married to Warrenites and they have been told to tell their mothers that "they can no longer acknowledge them. they can't see or talk to them. The children are taught that Grandma & Grandpa are evil. I have instructed my ladies to not try to contact them, but to always be there when they do call for help.
Abandonded parent in Canada

Anonymous said...

I am shocked and saddened any one would call themself lost. I seen a lot of you. I am also shocked that any one from my church would tell such out right lies. I know you were payed to lie against Warren Jeffs. I also was offered this bribe, to testify against him. I was told that in three, year's he would be shot, and his land divided, and every person would here would have to relocate. So far, we are still alilve. We still hold our property, Tho there are many squater's. I am sorry you feel like you need revenge, for a man that said, he would carry you into heaven on his back if he could. Colorado city, and hildale utah, are not being divided. The people who hate us, are just spouting off. You have not won your court case. you will not win. we may pay your lawer's to keep what was alway's our's, and your's too, if you would have been honest. Our land was set up, to protect, the one's who did want to worship, according to the book of morman. To say we are under educated is the grossest of lies. Look at the airial pitcher's of this place. If we are under educated, think what we would do with an education. the media, and some people are full of lies. Warren Jeffs is the most loving man I have ever met. His father also. I will not tell any one, they are liers, I will say I am frankly shocked, that you people could sit with Warren and His father, and say they are a threat to any one, when you and I know, that you intended to kill, him for greed, before the lies on the media began to circulate. I will remind you this. We all die. We all have to account to the truth of what you say. I am glad I am not in your shoe's. I would rather die, than kill. I would rather be cheated than to cheat. You talk about the worship of Jesus. I sugest you take your own counsel. In fact, It would be a welcome thing to hear, talk of this Jesus, instead of the lies of Warren Jeffs, and the lies of his people. The boys who leave our comunity, leave because they chose drugs and a free iresponsible life. The poor eighteen year old. what a tradgedy, he may have to work. Warren will not pay for him. his mother and father will not pay for him. poor little boy. you are eighteen. get a job. I was working at sixteen. poor little lost boy. you have not got our land yet. we are still alive. you can not even find Warren, let alone kill him. I think your publicity stunt backfired............one witness who was tried to be bribed, with money to lie. BE AMERICAN. Unless american's believe in lies. Then I say BE HONEST

Anonymous said...

Hey Anon. 11:07. You and others keep saying the bribe word, these are serious words. If these Lost Boys are really on the take, bring it forth. Everyone says Warren is innocent, but nobody wants to talk. Warren is acting guilty and looks like a coward to most of us out here, away from neverland in the real world. We don't like bribes and liars either. Tell the AG's of Arizona and Utah. They need to know. Tell them and tell them now.

Paladin for Truth said...

Hey everyone, Cut and paste the text from Anon 11:07 into Word and run the spell-check. Not exactly great spelling. The FLDS probably should tell this guy to not post here. I am not very convinced of his education.

Hey Anon 11:07, If you follow King Warren you must have a Book of Mormon. You must not read it very often. Don't let Warren know that you don't read that book, or has he done away with all the copies and replaced them with new teachings. I guess since all the values of Mormonism have disappeared from there, the spelling in not important to you anymore. Mormon is not spelled with an "A". What is an "airial pitcher's", are you talking about an "aerial picture"?

Native Texan said...

anon 10:32,

If Warren isn't guilty of any crimes, then why doesn't he just come forth? This would restore dignity and credibility to the entire group.

If there is no wrong or proof of wrong, why not encourage him to defend his HONOR and HONESTY to those who accuse?

Why is he hiding behind his followers? Is this the behavior of a leader? I think not.

Someone said something profound earlier, "Only the guilty flee when no one pursueth". No truer words, my friend.

Anonymous said...

to anon 11:07
What the heck (hick) you doin' responding to our blog, you'd better go repent to bishop Timpson and leave the group, your wife and children. Go to outer darkness, repent and give Warren all your money and maybe you can come back MAYBE!!! HA HA HA HA

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:07, I am the 18 year old boy who posted earlier that I think you were reffering too. The day I moved out of there I got a job. I was working for myself at the age of 14. I was self-employed. I certainly am not lost. notice I put the term "lost boys" in parentheses, this means "to depart from the main idea of a discourse". That is your grammar lesson for the day, write again and I'll help you out with your next lesson. Oh, and you say you were bribed? I certainly have never heard of such, and I'm sure they would contact me before you! I'm sure someone out there would give you some money if you were to testify against him, but that is not what I am interested in, I just want truth to prevail. And you know as well as I do that he is guilty of most of the things he is accused of, such as marrying under age girls, giving financial advice to followers in HIS best interest, and many more. Yes, I am sure some of the accusations are not true, but they will be judged as such. It's time to pull your head out of the hole Warren has stuck it in.

Stinger said...

Hey anon 11:07, I would like to know where you received your information that warren was going to be killed? Could it be just one more of the lies he has told you? Or is it just one more mis-spelled word?

Anonymous said...

To 11:07 I live in C.C. and the only time I can remember hearing about "death threats" to Uncle Warren came from us paranoid people talking about it.Can you give a specific instance where you personally heard one.So far those men who have lost everything dear in the world to them have been extemely accommadating to our prophet.Can you imagine what would happen in El Dorado if Uncle Warren went through their town and took all their woman and children from the men.Our men have basically been very non-violent for what they have gone through.We should thank them for keeping sweet.

Anonymous said...

Texas men would never sit by and have their families torn away from them by the likes of Warren Jeffs. Oh and another thing, the women of Texas have more sense than to hook up with the likes of him and his lackies. There would have to be a showdown first.

Anonymous said...

Who on earth would want to kill Warren! He probably doesn't have anymore than a cup of blood in him anyway. If he had any of the blood of the prophets in him then, his father would still be alive as he predicted, there would have been no olympics, the stock market would have crashed, the wicked would have been destroyed twice in 99, thrice in 2000, twice in 2001, and on and on. In the days of Moses when a prophet made a prophecy that did not come to pass they stoned them. Oh yea,in 99, it was positively a fact that
within a few months we would be heading to Zion in Missouri. Maybe someone was just reading the Old Testament and figured that sometime this guy would get the old Moses treatment.

Paladin for Truth said...

If Warren would just start living the Priesthood Work again, like he was taught and grew up with, he could do so much more than he is trying to do now. He is actually a really nice guy, he just seems to have forgotten, what made the people in Short Creek, who they are. He is well versed in the history of Joseph Smith. He listened well to the teachings of his father, Rulon Jeffs. He listened well to the training of Uncle Roy. He spent most of his life training young people in these teachings. While most of Warren's brothers were partying, he was studying and preparing for another school year. There was a time when Warren did not have many friends, because he kept the things out of his life that Uncle Roy said not to have in your life. He was a fine example for many years, yet when his father had his stroke, Warren started to discard all that he was.
Warren knows the story of King Noah in the Book of Mormon, who demanded 1/5 taxes from his people. He knows the story of the people who worked hard to build the temple in the days of Alma and then were told they were dressed too poor to enter into the temple, when it was complete. He knows the stories in the Book of Mormon, wherein the great men, were wise enough to tell the people they needed judges, not a king, yet Warren has made himself king. He knows of the wickedness in Sodom wherein they would trade wives around 4 times a year, yet he has women that are on their 3rd or 4th husbands. He knows that Uncle Roy taught that "we cannot give you a release". He has heard his father say that a girl does have the right to wait, if she feels she is not ready for marriage yet. He has seen hundreds be forgiven for their weaknesses by his father. He has said publicly that he has been forgiven as well, he knows that this is correct to forgive the youth and encourage them. He can quote more items from more books from all of Mormonism from its start, more than most people you will find alive today.

I believe even now, Warren could be truly great, if he would just step back and look for a minute.

He would see that all the attributes of Mormonism are gone from his new FLDS church. He would see that his church is nothing like what Joseph Smith taught or practiced. He would see that his members are trying hard to love him, but have many conflicts as they know deep in their hearts, that things are not right.
So maybe someone who can talk to Warren could suggest stepping back and taking a look for a minute. I know this will take courage, for if you question him in his condition now, he will strip you clean as can be.

Good Luck

Anonymous said...

It is written: father will be against son. Mother against daughter. State against state. City against city. country against country. There will be war, and rumor of war. Men will cry peace, and there will be none. food's, famine, and earth quake, will sweep the wicked from of the face of this earth, in preperation for the coming of the lost tribes of Iseral. This is only part of the prophacy. Warren did not write the book of morman. Look at the news. There was a tidle wave. Today there was another earth quake. There is a war, perpetuated by american's. A women was starved to death. murdering crimnal's had more mercy than this women. They, when they get a death sentance, get an enjection, or zapped. There death is over, in hour's. This women was starved to death. Her crime? she needed other's to live. Congress is in motion to destroy people for their religion. Every day on the new's you hear of some one who kills another. not very long ago, a boy went to school and shot his play mates, and himself. he was on prosac. prosac has a recorded history that ninty nine percent of it's participantes, of this drug commit suicide. our food is produced with chemical's. There is very little life in them. There is desise rampant upon our country. when you go to a doctor they tell you right up front, there is no cure. They charge you out ragiouse amount's to tell you there is no cure. they persicute people who do have cures. herbs have been healing people since the begining of time. children are kidnapped every day in america. they are murdered, by child molester's. our laws give hardened crimnal's more right's than a good honest tax payer. the tax in itself is illegal. a prophet does not need a man to uphold him. This is Gods earth. he did create it. he did put abundantly upon this earth, all for our need's. every day some one is robbed or killed, for what was plenty for all. I can not even imagine how any one could say prophacy was not being fullfilled. It is also written: God himself will put adillusion upon the land. He says the reason he does this, is because the people wanted filth. they did choose this. He wrote the law. he put the law upon the earth. God is merciful. he is kind. To each soul he does deliver up to them what they choose. This country as a whole voted for war. I voted for peace. A few other's I know voted for peace. It is written the rockie mountian's will be a place of revuage, for people, as nobody will dare come against zion. God will fight our battles. He does so. It is also written it will be mostly women and children who come to the mountian's. our soldier's are scattered around the world. if america was attacted, it would be very hard to collect our armies. it is written, it will apear there is no law upon the land. there will be mobs and carnage. the spirit of distruction and hate is already upon a lot of american's. in my grandfathers day it was honorabe to homestead. today a homeless person is jailed for standing by stores. they are judged because they have no money or a home. remember when Jesus was a twelve year old boy, he went into a church, and turned over the money changer's table. He was born poor in a stable. he also held life and death in his hand. He di d create this world. I thik he is in the process of turning over the money tables again. americans are set up in pride. they calim to have world power. remeber this: Jesus has world power, and he always has. can your puny arm stop an ocean? can your puny arm stop a tornado? when the tidal wave came, how many of you could go out and hold it back? america was promised of god to the pure in heart. a place of freedom for all people. he has promised that if the people turned from this law, he would destroy them, and populate it with people who loved and treated each other fair. Look around. this is happening. our soldiers are dieing over seas. americans are the terrorist to them. it is there women and children and husbands that are being killed. we have closed our borders. we hate people and say they are aliens. we persicute them for doing what our forefathers did, that built our countr so we could live upon it. I say again, how could you not see the words of the prophets being fullfiled. It is written, salt lake will over flow, and join with utah lake. the rains have increased. our glaciers are melting. the rivers are full. the country has been flooded, and will continue to be flooded. It is written the earth will real to and fro, like a drunken man. did not that tidle wave, according to sientists change the rotation of the earth. every soul upon the earth is fulfilling prophacy. one on the right hand of Jesus or the left of him. ONe does do good or evil. you can only save but one soul. you can love your neighbor or hate him. then you are deliverd up unto hate or love. I hope when Jesus comes you can say to him, I have only done good, to all I know.

Paladin for Truth said...

To Anon 2:39am

You talk bad about Prozac, Warren has called it an inspired drug and had it prescribed to many. Hope you don't get cut off for doubting Warren's holy keep sweet drug. You speak of the many predicted destructions, someday they may come. Right now all need to worry about the huge path of destruction that King Warren leaves behind.
Since you like to quote so many predictions, I will quote from the one that President Johnson seemed the most worried about, The Coming Crisis, or maybe "The Present Crisis"

excerpts from The Coming Crisis:
"Rich men oppress you, and many cheat you and defraud you, and keep back your merited wages and you, who do the greatest part of the work that is done in the land, can hardly get an honest living, while your masters roll in pomp, and fare sumptuously every day. I have seen you and your little sons and tender daughters, hurrying off early in the morning to work for them, and returning late at night, poorly fed and poorly clothed often. And all the time that you are making others rich, they are keeping you in poverty and ignorance. And your daughters are often insulted and sometimes seduced by masters, and you are threatened with workhouse if you don't grind for the oppressor, and you have but little time to see your own families, and bless them with comforts, and educate and train them up for usefulness and salvation. Now, if you knew how to take counsel from the God of heaven, as Jacob did, you would not have to submit always to such fraud and oppression."
End of exceprts.

I did not write this, copies can be found dating way back before Warren was born, Warren did not write it. Presidents Barlow, Hammon, Johnson, Jessop, Holm, Musser and many others did not write it as well. But all of these Presidents were worried that the day was coming. I never really heard any of the stories from President Johnson about the many predictions of doom, at least first hand from his mouth and his voice. I have heard many doom and gloom preachers, but never Uncle Roy. Most of which I have heard that Uncle Roy said, repeated from the mouth of other men, has not happened yet. I did hear President Johnson many times say to get a copy of The Coming Crisis and take it home and read it.

So the crisis is here and you are right we all need to be able to say we blessed all, let's not trade the word "Bless" with "Break".
I am tired of seeing families broke apart and considered a blessing. I only want good for those I know. I want the fine examples I grew up with to keep their families. I don't want the wife of another man. I don't want to see another girl forced to marry against her will or a little young, before she is ready. I want those who have worked hard and spent their life working in building a humble house to live in, to get to stay there. More than anything, I wished Warren could see that he is bringing The Coming Crisis here to our time, If he would step back for a minute, I think he would see that "Breaking" is not "Blessing"

fence sitter said...

will someone please show blogger 2:37 what a dictionary is. I'm an english language buff, but this guy is killing me!!!!

Anonymous said...

one thing. Anon 11:07 please go anf pray harder that God will grant you the power to see through the god.

Anonymous said...

corection. Anon 11:07 please go and pray harder that God will grant you the power to see through the fog.

(first post was done after getting up at 4:00 am to work 8 hours and come home to be with my wonderful family. so just a little tired)

Anonymous said...

To fence sitter.In defence of us "guys",the 2:39am poster is a gal.We guys have better things to do at 1:39 am than post here.;)

Anonymous said...

To Anon 11:07 I left 20 years ago. It sounds like they are still pushing the scare tactics as hard as ever. There have been wars and rumors of wars as long as I’ve been alive. There always will be. The best day of my life (before my children were born) was the day Leroy Johnson died. After hearing him say with his own mouth that he would see the “second coming”. It was proof to me that he was a false prophet. It made it easier to get over the load of crap I had been fed my whole life. My children will never have nightmares about Christ coming and shedding their blood, because they were not good enough. I hope someday that you will learn to think for yourself and not live in fear. Ex-creeker