Thursday, March 17, 2005

Eldorado Polygamy Merchandise on Ebay

Now I've seen everything. Somebody is selling Eldorado Polygamy Marriage License and a cap from Eldorado Polygamy Capitol of Texas on Ebay. What a hoot!

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ha Ha Ha!

Anonymous said...

why would anybody put polygamist merchandise on ebay? that is as bad as plastic french fries at mcdonalds.

Anonymous said...

I think it's great. Winston did say to make money off of them. This way you don't even have to take their money to do it.

Anonymous said...

HMMM PRETTY CHEAP MERCHANDISE AS WELL AS A PRETTY CHEAP LIFE STYLE ANYBODY CAN MARRY MANY WIVES IT TAKES A REAL MAN TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH HINSELF AND THE DECISIONS HE MAKES / NOT BLINDLY FOLLOWING A CRACKPOT THAT HAS THE AUDACITY TO SPEAK FOR GOD.

Antique Mormon said...

Talk about crackpots. There is nothing cheap about a true polygamist lifestyle. Maybe all the people in the country who are the product of a parent who has had a multiple relationship should start a club. It would include three quarters of the population.

Anonymous said...

Awesome Caps, This should be a must for every Texas Polygamist!

Anonymous said...

Well, Eldorado's definitely on the map now. I'll bet it's Mr. Elgoatarod whose behind this.

Anonymous said...

Antique Morman?

So at the whim of the prophetic nut, your mother can be your sister-in-law tomorrow or, you're really creative you can take granny as one of your wives and mom will be your daughter, and if that's not confusing enough, your sister would be your grand-daughter and you would be your own grandfather. From what I can gather, the FM's don't have very many branches on the family tree. No wonder there are so many nuts. And this situation is a balanced, happy family? Give us a break!

disgusted neighbor

Anonymous said...

Yes antique mormon, it isn't cheap having 20 kids and 5 wives, that is why you must sponge off of social sucurity and medicade to survive. You can thank all us honest tax-paying citezens later. Maybe even a card this Christmas would be nice. Let us know how our children that we help raise are doing.

Anonymous said...

To 12;26
We pay our taxes just as you do. We have just as much right to the things that the government offers as the next person this is our country too. It isn't like we're the only people on earth that use those assets. And I can assure you in our family they don't get wasted. We wouldn't be able to live without your help so I do say thank you.

Anonymous said...

The children you helped raise are doing fine thank you

Individual Identity said...

I can plainly see that someone has a sick sense of humor. I almost didn't dignify the ridiculousness with a reply. However, I did feel compelled to put my two cents worth out there with the rest of you people's junk. It is apparent that polygamy i.e. polygamy merchandise is just another fad, so why don't you let it run it's course? Trying to make money off of other people's life choices is a really lame source of income, it makes me wonder why you don't do some gay hats while you're at it?

Anonymous said...

Profiting from other people's life style choices goes on all the time. Oh, I forgot. You guys spell it P-R-O-P-H-E-T!

Anonymous said...

Hey anonymous 6:43 A.M., can I get a picture of your children? When you send money to Ethiopia in support of people over there, they at least send you a picture or something. isn't that sweet? Hey I lived there once I know that people cheat the government systems for all they are worth. And ya people do that out here too, but not nearly as large of a scale. I am going to hate to see the day when these government aid programs go under, because then I'll feel bad every time I see a woman and her 15 kids on the side of the road begging for their next meal. Sounds kinda like Mexico!

Anonymous said...

The FLDS Welfare Fact's . . .

The use of welfare was preached against by the leaders of the "Priesthood Work" and is still frowned upon by their leaders.

The FLDS Church is a recent creation incorporated in the early ninety's and is an apostate off-chute of the Priesthood Work.

Leroy S. Johnson, J. M. Hammon and other leaders at that time were adamantly opposed to welfare and counseled against it often. It was "Uncle" Fred who started the campaign to use welfare and it was then expanded by the Barlows. In fact, Alvin Barlow and Lawrence Steed, the local school administrator's, actually advised their teachers to apply for welfare and food stamps when they asked for a raise. This was a common occurance and was even stated publicly and can be conclusively substantiated by the teachers.

The welfare problem in Colorado City, Hildale, did not exist prior to the seventy's and is wholy the creation of Fred Jessop and the Barlows. True Fundamentalists are against welfare and government assistance and only allow it in genuine cases of indigence or catastrophic illness.

A survey was done of the residents in Centennial Park, a neighboring community and it was found that the welfare use there is well below the County and State averages. Apparently the anti-welfare posture of the leaders of the Priesthood Work still prevails.

The rejection of the Priesthood Work and the true fundamental principles of Mormonism by a majority of the people in Colorado City, Hildale, has produced the abberant FLDS Church and its notoriuos leader, Warren Steed Jeffs.

Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them." The fruits of the FLDS Church are, under age marriages, abuse of welfare, excommunication and expulsion of stalwart members, the destruction of family's and the exploitation of sacred trust assets.

The sermons and teachings of revered leader Leroy S. Johnson are published and well documented. There is nothing in those teachings that supports the behavior and policy's of usurper Warren Jeffs. The days of his ungodly exploitations are numbered and history will regard him as the self appointed fraud that he is.

Anonymous said...

For all of you who are complaining about your taxes being spent to raise polygamist children, maybe you will take a few minutes and reflect at the end of the day. You should turn around and thank all those children who are being allowed to grow up and fill the ranks of working citizens because they will be helping to pay for your retirement since so many of you are killing your own before they are even born. I know a lot or polygamists and for the most part they are a hard working bunch of people and do not require any more handouts than the rest of you do.

Anonymous said...

You have to understand that the FLDS group finds humor in the fact that they are sucking the government (in other words, the rest of us) dry. It's their passive-aggressive attempt at revenge because we don't jump on their "alternative lifestyle bandwagon". It's hard to buy into the "live and let live" montra I keep hearing from FLDS folks when they are stabbing the rest of us in the backs!! Their deception affects us all.

Anonymous said...

All you people who complain about the FLDs people using welfare : can you prove that they are using fraud to get it? It seems to me that people who pay taxes ought to get some of the benefit from them if they truly need it. What about all the Mexicans who come here and are allowed to get the same benefits??? They haven't paid taxes nearly as much as the FLDS. Oh and by the way The FLDS actually pays quite high taxes. If you want to take away the benefits they receive would you also take away the "benefit" of paying taxes?????

Anonymous said...

Yes. Here's how it's done...take on a "spritual bride", then have multiple children with her, but don't legally marry her. Repeat this process over and over with many women. All of them look like single mothers in the eyes of the government (due to the lack of marriage certificates). In the eyes of the government, a single mother of multiple children who doesn't have an income qualifies for government assistance. Although these women are supported by their husbands and don't really need the help, they accept it anyway, practicing what's called "Bleeding the Beast". This is a well-known fact, documented by those within and outside the community. Just read the book by Benjamin Bristine, "The Polygamists". He is a former member of that community and still maintains ties to the people within. Or you can check the link on the "Eldorado Success" titled "The Polygamy Primer". If you are, in fact a hard-working member of society you will strongly resent this practice.

Anonymous said...

To the 11:44am poster, where do I start? First of all, if you need welfare, chances are pretty good that you aren't paying into the system. Speaking of people who don't pay into the system, the ILLEGAL aliens that cross our borders and take advantage of our government are also guilty of scamming the system, but it doesn't make it right in the eyes of God or your fellow man. Do you think Jesus would have taken advantage in such a manner? Secondly, do the FDLS members pay more taxes because they are in a higher tax bracket because they make more money? (If so, then welcome to the real world.) Some of us in the work force pay 40% of our income in taxes to the government. Anyone with a good head on his/her shoulders do not consider giving up almost half of one's income to the government to be a privledge or a "benefit", as you call it. If more people would support themselves and their own families (however large) we wouldn't be in this mess.

Anonymous said...

The polygamy primer is the world's worst idea of a joke book. The people who put it together have no idea what they are talking about. "Bleeding the beast" as you call it is something that was invented by people who neede an excuse to complain. I know a family who applied for welfare aid and the DES multiplied the man's income by how many wives he had instead of dividing it among each one of them. Where is the fraud in that?? Most people do report everything because they have to show birth certificates for all of their children and the father is listed right there. By the way Benjamin Bistline is legally blind. His family leads him around. How could he seeany of the things he says he sees?? Contrary to what he might say he does not maintain contact with people within the community. His book is not even worth reading it is just a figment of his imagination. How do I know all this? Because he is a close relative of mine.

Anonymous said...

The word benefit was used as a joke of course we don't consider it a benefit to pay so much out in taxes!! Duh!

Anonymous said...

If you think people who are on welfare don't pay into the system then you don't know how the system works. So you obviously don't have any idea what you are talking about. I don't know anyone who considers it a benefit to pay so much taxes. It was obviously used as a joke.

Anonymous said...

Whomever told you that his income was multiplied by how many wives he had is full of bull. How stupid do you think us taxpayers on the "outside" are? You sound like someone who has never paid taxes. What does Benjamin Bristline's blindness have to do with the fact that he raised his family within your community and was himself raised in your community? He wasn't always blind...and his spirit has not been blinded like so many others around you (and perhaps you?). And how do you explain away the fact that his book agrees with other books written on the subject as well as what our government has said (and I think they have the records to prove it). Also those who have been fortunate enough to escape your community corroborate these facts as well.

Anonymous said...

To the 1:19pm poster, I wish it wasn't true, but it is. Anyone else willing to comment on this?

Anonymous said...

You wouldn't know what someone who doesn't pay taxes sounds like unless of course you don't pay them yourself!!

Anonymous said...

I am just glad that I don't have to live with the bitterness and hatred that is eating the people up who complain so much!!

Anonymous said...

To the 1:56pm commenter, unfortunately I am a taxpayer. That's how I know that some of US at the higher income bracket pay 40% of OUR hard-earned income in taxes to the government. I am also an employer who is aware of the fact that some people get around paying into the system and still receive the benefits our government offers. If you, too, pay taxes and don't leech the government (ie the rest of us), then hats off and you can understand my frustration. If not, then perhaps you and I will never see eye-to-eye. Hey, maybe I should just quit working and apply for welfare. After all, I'm just a woman.

Anonymous said...

I pay my taxes just like anyone else. But I think people who pay taxes and need benefits should be able to get them as long as they don't use fraud to get them.

Anonymous said...

Being in the finance business for a number of years, and understanding the present situation this country is in, it would n't even matter if all people stopped sucking off of social security and medicade all together. Between the two "aid" programs, this nation is in debt 15 trillion, and and on top of that everyone's personal debt, and we owe nearly 40 Trillion dollars! They will not be there in the future for you and I, so we must all shift to personal responsibility. I too am worried how the wives and children of short creek will survive all this, because one man cannot support 30 children even by working every daylight hour of every day of the week. My opinion? save as much money as you can and put it in a personal inverstment program that yeilds higher than 10% interest annually. with inflation holding at 3.1% annually, and even has reached nearly 10% a year over the past 3 years, you might even break even. So If your from Colorado City or not, your in for some tough times.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous 2:42 AM:

Fiscal responsibility is incumbant on this nation and all of its citizens. The Federal Government certainly has set a bad example to the people in this regard. The few dollars allocated for support of women and children in America are a psaltry sum compared to what's given away to various country's of the world.

If reform is warrented, and in my view it certainly is, then we need to priortize our thinking to cut foriegn programs first, then domestic ones. It makes no sense to build China and other developing nations economically, while we are at the same time bankrupting our own.

One day in the near future, we won't be concerned about the few dollars given to feed a few women and children, when this country is in economic chaos.

Native Texan said...

Are you speaking specifically of needy women and children in the FLDS community? If you are, then it troubles me that the men are not mentioned here. I'm not opposed to helping women and children who are out there in this world alone (who is?), but that's not what we're talking about. These women are all in committed relationships!

Shouldn't the heads of these households (the men) step up and take care of their own families? If they aren't doing that, then shame on them. As men they have a responsibility both spiritually and socially to take care of their own. What if every man in our county acted this way?

To me it looks like shame is heaped upon these women and children. They are made to look impoverished (like single mothers who have been deserted to raise their children) while the men hide behind them, cashing the checks and accepting the benefits while not bearing any of the shame. Obviously they do not consider themselves to be single mothers with children fathered out of (spiritual?) wedlock, but that's what is insinuated in order to receive the help... that's why many others accuse this group of welfare fraud.

Anonymous said...

All of the men with lots of wives that I know of have at least one of his wives working as well to help out.

Antique Mormon said...

A few years ago there was a scientific project commissioned on a space shuttle mission that jointly cost the governments of Canada and the United States millions of dollars. The project: they sent 49 cherry fruit flies into space to see if they could reproduce in weightlessness. What a good use of the taxpayers dollars, yours and mine. We would have been farther ahead to have sent more of our millions to help the starving polygamous third world countries raise their children. We are going to get loads of benefits from that.

Anonymous said...

huh?

Anonymous said...

I would point out: ON food stamps, and social securety, a person recieves a total of $565.00 per month. In order to qualify for these program's, a state represenitive comes to your house. They take a report. This report is then hnded to a person in her office. This person checks the file and sends it to the superviser. The superviser sends the report to another worker, who then checks the file and sends it to the people who will send the check. all in all, the file is checked by five different people. They all pull a check monthly, that I can promise, is a lot more than, $565.00 per month. The person who did qualify for these benifits, is obligated to report every thing they do. If you think we leach of the government, just who do you think pays these people. each city only recieves back what it has given. To, to you who hate Warren Jeffs, believe me: We would be a lot richer, if we did not have to give this government 50% of our money, and have to pay the squabbler's lawer fee's, for what you already had. You have all lost your court case. A judge has allowed you to sit on another man's property, in a house you already had, and could have kept it, with no negativity, if you had not tried to take it from the rest of us. The condition's of this trust, are hung in GREAT BIG LETTERS. There is no deciet in the matter. Our church issues are nobody elses bussines. If you do not believe the same, as what is tought, There is a lot of churches in america. There is no force here, that is not found out, and prosicuted by law.

Anonymous said...

10:30 is living proof that these people need to be educated, and quickly!

Anonymous said...

10:30 pm,I was going to rebutt your post but on second thought I believe it says a lot for us ex-creekers.I'll leave it unrebutted.