Saturday, March 19, 2005

Anti Polygamy bill filed in Texas House

State Rep. Harvey Hilderbran introduced a bill last week aimed directly at the FLDS according to a story in the Dallas Morning News. See story below:

Bill takes aim at polygamists

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is Class Legislation legal in Texas? It's not constitutional.

ray j said...

It's a good thing God has mercy for all of us poor handicapped mortals, we're so quick to judge one another and place each other into classes. He looks upon all of his children as we look upon ours, one no different than another. where's our compassion? it seems pretty silly to think of ourselves any better than anyone else; today is one man's test, and tomorrow is another. We all face the same inevitable end,so why not try to improve ourselves, help our neighbor, and all do a little better for humanity have a smile for someone a kind word. does it really matter what religion we believe, or whether we have any at all as long as we care, and help eachother along? not doing this is what divides us into classes.

Anonymous said...

Class legislation?? All states have the right to regulate anything that isn't constitutionaly assigned to the federal government. Marriage is one of those things that is left to the state. I assure you that Texas can and will act.

Yes, the state's anti-sodomy law was struck down because it didn't pass constitutional muster, but there's nothing in the constitution that guarantees anyone the right to marry more than one woman.

Notice that those who arge that polygamy is their religious right aren't encouraging their women to marry more than one man. No sir, they want those girls young, dumb and continually pregnant so they are dependent.

Thank God the legislature is looking at this. 14 is too young for marriage.

Anonymous said...

To ray J :

There are two general classes of people in life, with a certain amount of overlap in most cases.

First, people who strive for goodness, represented by all that is good, charitable and uplifting. On the extreme opposite end is the evil, with its numerous destructive characteristics and violation of human rights. Somewhere in between is the average Shakespearan man, struggling with the dichotomy of these two primary forces. Laws to protect Constitutional freedoms moderate these forces that there may be civil coexistance.

The hope and vision that is America provides an equality of freedom (in theory at least)to pursue happiness and fulfillment. Due process and equal protection under the law (Fourteenth Amendment)provide a goal of equality that is oftimes challenged by these two forces.

What is one man's freedom is another man's crime. A religious belief (polygamy) that was the traditional norm for four thousand years of earth's history becomes a strange relic, now replaced by a Roman Empire mandate (monogamy).

What does religious freedom really mean? If consenting adults can choose sexual preference under the Constitution (Lawrence Decision), then why can't they also choose to organize their families after the religious custom of Abraham, Jacob and Moses? Equal protection under the law would demand that adults are free to choose their relationships and not the Texas legislature, which has already been overruled on this issue.

There are already adequate laws on the books to prosecute crimes that threaten individual freedoms. Use those laws if violations of civil rights occur. Legislative rules committees should thoroughly research the constitutionality of pending bills before wasting public resources on unecessary legal challenges.

Mr ray j's philosophy of tolerance and freedom of choice represents the force for good. Freedom's of conscience, of association, due process and equal protection under the law are the American way after all. Sherif Doran is to be commended for his approach to uphold the Constitution until someone's rights are violated and a complaint is filed or obvious crime is committed.

Let's not undo the heroic sacrifice of Texans at the Alamo by violating the Constitution at Eldorado and Austen.

Anonymous said...

The last thing we need here is someone from Utah lecturing us about the historic sacrifice at the Alamo.

If you knew anything about Texas history you'd realize that we don't take well to outsiders coming in and pushing us around.

If you were smart you would move your polygamist butt back to Utah before some patriotic Texan decides to teach you about the Alamo and San Jacinto.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like that they are leaving you alone just fine, why cant you do the same for them 4:27
Your people are complaining that they don't ever even see them, so how can you say that they are pushing you around

Confused FLDS girl said...

I feel that if gays and lethsbiens can have rights, why can't we? Don't even think of it a religous thing, just that we want the freedom to marry whom ever we choose. And if you do want to think of it in religous terms, Isn't that what our forfathers fought for? Religous freedom. I always that that it was. There may be girls that want to get out of the situation that they are in, but where are there not? I don't want to, I love it here I love my sisterwife and my husband. I am not abused or hurt in any way. I don't see how anyone will benefit by passing this bill. Would you Texans feel any different about these people if they did this same thing only did not have multiple wives. I used to think Texas would be a fun place to live because I love horses and all that purtains to cowboying. I even liked the way Texans talk. I am not a Warren suporter but I tell you I've lost my respect for Texans. sure I know that there are people down ther that aren't so negative and closed minded.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous 12:44 PM. If you are christian, you accept Marriage as a Religious covenant. Civil authorities have no right intervening without violating the constitution. Class Legislation has nothing to do with whats right or wrong. Class legislation means you can not pass laws picking on or hurting one class of people because they are different. If they violate established laws they can be prosecuted. Why are more laws neccessary. Who has a right to teach the children? Their parents do. No other authority has that right. Would a christian want a buddist teaching their children? If your religion says thats wrong. That's your choice. If you are LDS consider the 11th article of faith. If you're not, consider the second amendment to the constitution.

Paladin for Truth said...

Dear Confused, you are right. Nobody has any right to tell you what way to live. There are many freedoms of lifestyle in this nation. The problem is that this coward and self-proclaimed leader Warren Jeffs, has used this freedom to break apart families. This to me, is the worst kind of terrorism that we can have in the United States. The freedoms granted in this country provide no way to stop this evil madman from continuing to leave a trail of destruction and ruin. The only avenue available right now is to hassle Warren over Polygamy and underage sex, both of which are against the law in this country. In some states, third party interference with marriages is against the law. The law enforcement should be going after the underage sex and third party interference in marriages.

I agree that many people with more than one wife have been put under the spotlight. I know there are many decent hardworking people, that have more than one wife. There are many that are honest and true. What we need is to get parents to stop forcing their young girls into the beds of Warrens elite followers.

So dear Confused, tell all the 14-15 year old girls that you come across, that no crazy, cowardly madman can force them into some man's bed before they are ready. I am glad that you are happy in your situation, you stay with that man you are with till you grow old and teach all the girls you meet to do the same. Maybe you could wander over to the followers of King Warren and tell them to stay with their husbands and stop the pain in the lives of their children.

Take it easy on the people in Texas, those men running the construction at the YFZ, have told all the lies they can to the Texans. It is not the fault of the people in Texas, that Warren has sent a bunch of lying cowards to build there. I hate being lied to as much as the next person.
So dear confused, be a great mother and have your children honor their natural father all their life.

Confused FLDS girl said...

Thank you for the encouragement Paladin for Truth.

Anonymous said...

To paladin for truth:

Your words of wisdom and common sense rise far above the caustic polemics of anonymous 4:27. The reference to the heroes of the Alamo freedom fighters made by anonymous 1:24 was a tribute the example Texans have been to the world in their defense of individual freedoms. The pride of Texans ("Don't mess with Texas") should be the pride of all Americans.

Freedom of religion is one of those freedoms. Attacking a religious belief as old as the Bible is not the answer. There are enough laws already on the books to take down Warren Jeffs, the real and obvious problem here. If legislation must be passed, pass legislation to raise the age of conjugal sex and make it unlawful for all Texans (monogamous or polygamous) to have sex with a minor under a given statutory age. Make it unlawful for a third party to interfere in a consenting adult relationship. There are things the legislature can do to protect the civil rights of minors and consenting adults without targeting a religious practice.

Supreme Court Justice O'Connor clearly stated in the Lawrence Decision, "Moral dissaproval of a group cannont be a legitimate governmental interest under the Equal Protection Clause . . ."

She also stated in her ruling, "A law branding one class of persons as criminal solely based on the State's moral dissaproval of that class and the conduct associated with that class runs contrary to the values of the Constitution and the Equal Protection Clause, under any standard of review."

Warren Jeffs has broken the law in Utah and in due time will be prosecuted. The evidence is coming together and justice will be served. In the mean time, let due process deal with the YFZ problem, if there is one? And let the goodness, common sense, and pride of law abiding Texans prevail . . .

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Anonymous said...

Mark Twain once described the "Women of Polygamy" as follows:

"I was touched. My heart was wiser than my head. It warmed toward these poor, ungainly, and pathetically homely creatures, and as I turned to hide the generous moisture in my eyes, I said, "No - the man that marries one of them has done an act of Christian charity which entitles him to the kindly applause of mankind, not their censure - and the man that marries sixty of them has done a deed of openhanded generosity so sublime that the nations should stand uncovered in his presence and worship in silence."

Poor fellers. Let's give them a break.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you shouldn't dive face-first into such a shallow gene pool.

Anonymous said...

Is that why they named the only motel and restaurant in Colorado City the "Mark Twain"?

Odd sense of humor, those folks.

Anonymous said...

In reference to the humorous wisdom of Mark Twain, there's another story in regard to his visit with Brigham Young.

As the story goes, Brother Brigham challenged Mr. Twain to find a quote from the Bible forbidding polygamy. Mr. Twain appeared stumped for a moment and then responded in his usual humorous manner:

"It says in the Bible, 'No man can serve two masters.'"

And with that most applicable scripture, Mark Twain had once again proven his genius.

Anonymous said...

ahh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. This folks is the issue, cut out all the flag waving and states rights etc.. Any man wants to date my daughter let alone marry him he needs to present his sorry butt at the door for an inspection. If he's got nothing to hide he has nothing to worry about from me. Sadly Mr. Jeffs and I use the term out of good manners, not respect. I could not let you near by dog let alone my front door. nuff said .. amen

Anonymous said...

Somebody once said that polygamy is a crime that carries its own punishment.

Maybe it was sin, not crime.

I forget.

Anonymous said...

Lets say there was a man that married a woman, they lived happily for a few years but all too soon she died. A year or two later he married again, Another wonderful woman whom he loved as dearly as his first. After they all three died and went to Heaven which wife would he choose to keep, and which would he turn out.

Anonymous said...

...hopefully neither. Most guys die just to get away from their wives.

just kidding of course. In truth, only God knows the answer, so you will just have to ask him.

Antique Mormon said...

5:59 said it all with a typo. If this was about a man coming to date a daughter that was actually a him, the great state of Texas would look the other way.

Native Texan said...

I understand that many women grow up in the FLDS community, but what draws other women (from the outside) to be part of this group? I can understand why a man would want to be in this community, but how do they keep their women from scaling the walls?

Anonymous said...

If the women want to leave they are more than welcome. Nobody is forced to stay. I am a woman and I love what I have. I don't see why anyone would want to leave.

Anonymous said...

Reply to Native Texan

Women join for various reasons, but just about all come from conservative LDS families that are scattered around the Utah area. Some just buy into the deal while others might have been daughters of men who decided to convert. None of the Texas polygamist women are as such, they're pretty much born and raised. As time passes and if nothing much happens you'll probably see a slow migration of free lance polygamists moving into your communities as well. As for your other question, why aren't they climbing the walls, you might want to ask Elizabeth Smart about that one.

Native Texan said...

To 7:10pm anonymous:

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic...and for that cold chill that just ran up my spine.

Anonymous said...

To Native Texan:

The main reason women participate in the Mormon version of Plural Marriage is clearly stated in a book of revelations published by the LDS Church (not to be confused with the FLDS Church)called the Doctrine and Covenants.

In that book, Section 132 outlines the religious reasons that polygamy is still practiced by all the Fundamentalists. The church that Warren Jeffs has commandeered and is now moving to Texas has deviated from that revelation because the marriage covenants required by that revelation are eternal, and obviously, Mr. Jeffs has instigated a system that has no regard for an eternal covenant.

Strangely enough, the LDS Church is still associated with the doctrine of polygamy because they continue to publish the commandment that if you don't live it you will be damned (see D&C Sec. 132).

Anonymous said...

answer to 10:52 PM
BIBLE...MARK...CHAPTER 12
22:23 On that day Sadducees (those who say that there is no resurrection) came to him. They asked him,

22:24 saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed for his brother.'

22:25 Now there were with us seven brothers. The first married and died, and having no seed left his wife to his brother.

22:26 In like manner the second also, and the third, to the seventh.

22:27 After them all, the woman died.

22:28 In the resurrection therefore, whose wife will she be of the seven? For they all had her."

22:29 But Jesus answered them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.

22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like God's angels in heaven.

22:31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, haven't you read that which was spoken to you by God, saying,

22:32 'I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?' God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

22:33 When the multitudes heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.

22:34 But the Pharisees, when they heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, gathered themselves together.

22:35 One of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, testing him.

22:36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?"

22:37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.'

22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

22:39 A second likewise is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

22:40 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."

Anonymous said...

To Native Texan in reply to 7:10. Elizabeth Smart Never had anything to do with this people and neither did the man that kidnapped her. The man who did this deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. This has never happened among the FLDS and if it did happen the person guilty would be turned over to the law to be handled. Those who have lost their wives, lost them because their wives did not want to stay with them for crimes such as abuse, or distrust. Those crying abuse are abusers themselves.

Anonymous said...

If a woman has been married to a man for time and all eternity after he dies, If she gets married again, it is for time only. In Heaven she will go back to her first huband.

Anonymous said...

By the time we get to heaven, I don't think we will care who we're partnered up with in Heaven. I'm going to be praising the Lord and worshipping Him without the distraction of looking around me. Our goal here on earth is to do just that, but since earth is sinful and Heaven is perfect, we will definitely be focused on pleasing Him there.

Anonymous said...

To the 12:52 pm. post It is clear to me that you have not yet lost your family. Your tune will change when Warren is done with you and gives your family to a friend.You have not yet heard the heart rending cries of the woman & children and even strong men weeping as they obediently part from each other.But you will.

Anonymous said...

A reply to the 12:52 pm. post Elisabeth Smart was torn apart from her family & the man that did that should be "punished to the fullest extent of the law." I believe this has happened on a large scale in the flds & the man responsible should be "turned over to the law to be handled" as you have suggested.Yes i am referring to warren jeffs.

Anonymous said...

reply to 12:52

Whether or not the Elizabeth Smart case and the FLDS have nothing to with each other all depends on your vantage point. You look and you see Fords and Chevys while others may just see cars. Yes it does matter if they're a Ford or a Chevy when you need one fixed. Ford parts won't fix a Chevy and Chevy parts won't fix a Ford. Both will drive you to the supermarket. Some will prefer the Ford and others will prefer the Chevy. But for the poor person who winds up getting hit by one of these suckers? I'm sure it doesn't matter if it were a Ford or were a Chevy, both will hurt you and both the same.

stg

Anonymous said...

To the 9:01 PM Post:

Men and women who are joined for time and all eternity don't obediently part because some man tells them to. They part because they are too stupid to think for themselves.

If they had any intelligence they would have continued their lives together if only for the sake of their children.

Can you imagine spending nearly a lifetime together (in some of these cases)and raising a large and loving family only to throw it all away because of the madness of one man. Now that's the very worst reason to abandon your family.

If they are shedding tears, it's for their own ignorance and cowardice. Real men wouldn't let any man come between them and their family's. I can't imagine Warren Jeffs intimidating a toad, let alone a Barlow. Whatever happened to the Barlow men to turn them into helpless eunuch's?

Somebody (a real man) needs to send Warren home, and I don't mean to Texas, it's too much like heaven . . .

Anonymous said...

To 11:42:

Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen!!!!!!!! It's easy to see how Jeffs could mistake Texas for Zion, but how could all his followers mistake him for a prophet? And how could all his wives mistake him for sightly? Hahahaha - I know - just looking at his picture. Don't tell me - he's not photogenic!

Anonymous said...

Does inbreeding (pardon the term if it's offensive to anyone) play into this man's rugged good looks?

Does anyone know his geneology??

Anonymous said...

To the 11:42 pm post. The barlow men have always relied on each other for support. They went after weaker individuals only as a pack. warren was very clever in kicking out half & retaining half of them.He pitted the halves against each other & will now individually pick away at those that are left until they are all gone.Separated, warren knows the barlow men have no backbone whatsoever.Soon the barlow name will almost be totally eradicated out of warrens program.What went around came around for the barlows.warrens day is comeing.

Anonymous said...

Answer to the 10:40 am post. Warren himself isn’t the product of inbreeding but his children are. Most of the Jeffs men are quite handsome. Warren has always been the odd one in the lot.

To the 11:42 post. Warren is “photogenic.” The camera accurately picked up exactly what was there.

Anonymous said...

The man doesn't have any eyelashes or eyebrows. I'm telling you there's something wrong there.

Antique Mormon said...

Awe come on you guys. His looks don't have anything to do with anything. Maybe we should all go look in the mirror and see just how lovely we look ourselves. Maybe Randy should put up a better looking picture of him. He doesn't look as bad as the picture that they have of him. Give him a break Randy. Really, this guy has life size pictures of himself spread from Canada to Texas.

Anonymous said...

As if the plig wimmen weren't ugly enough already, Warren is spreading ugly genes all over the West.

Anonymous said...

I have seen some very beautiful woman in colorado city.Warren is trying to overcome his genetic weaknesses by selecting only the most beautiful young girls to be in his harem.This may backfire in some instances though because some bloodlines he chooses are closely related.

Anonymous said...

What would you do if the tables were turned, and for no other reason than being different you became the target? Is being different really a crime? If so we're all guilty since everyone is unique in some way.

Anonymous said...

5:45:

Yeah, or maybe he just likes to have sex with attractive women.

Knowing the many accusations that are out there about him being a pedophile, perhaps anyone will do - even his small 5 year old nephew - or how about a 15 year old cousin? Where is the accountability in this group? Get this man out before you lose any credibility you have left with decent society!

Anonymous said...

I have to agree.

Stinger said...

Hey 5:04, What leads you to say that the plig women are ugly? Have you even seen one in person? If any plig women read your post you probably will have a hunting party of them after you. May God have mercy on your soul, because I bet they won't. :)

Anonymous said...

I will tell you how to reconise a lier! If a person say's anything negative about Warren Jeffs, they are a lier! And as to the Women being after this man that insult's us, I would llike to point out one thing. Warren Jeffs is the one with the women, and they stay with him because they love him. How about it? Do you have even one women who has stayed with you, Look's and all?

Anonymous said...

I will tell you this, ma'am. I have been married to my husband for many years and I can guarantee you I am all the woman he will ever need or be able to handle. We are both SATISFIED - a word I don't hear very often from the women on your side of the 10 foot tall fence. How does that sit with you?

Anonymous said...

I am very glad and pleased to hear you say, you love your husband. The divorce rate in this country is high. Utah has the highest divorce rate. I am glad that women and men would be committed to each other. I stayed home with my children. My husband spent his time with women in the cheep motels in vegas. I am glad I met this Warren Jeffs. He is very kind to me. I love him very much. I am very happy you love your husband and would suport him. Would you tho, If he beat you, and drank, and slept around? Do you not think the women who leave a man has a good reason too. And the men who leave there women, they feel justified.

Anonymous said...

3:23,

You're right. I should be thankful for what I have. My husband and I have been faithful to one another all these years. I am so sorry that your husband abused your trust and your body. There is no excuse for a man to do that to a woman. I believe a man who is capable of cheating on his family and beating his wife is not a man at all. You had every right to leave him in God's eyes and in the eyes of man. It breaks my heart that he did all this while you were home with the children too.

As wounded as you are, I will tell you that not every man is like your ex-husband. Please don't give up on men. I know you think you're in love with Warren Jeffs, but I will bring up the word "satisfied" again. Don't decieve yourself into thinking he is capable of satisfying you. His plate is FULL! You deserve to be the apple of someone's eye, my dear!

Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

3:23,

You're right. I should be thankful for what I have. My husband and I have been faithful to one another all these years. I am so sorry that your husband abused your trust and your body. There is no excuse for a man to do that to a woman. I believe a man who is capable of cheating on his family and beating his wife is not a man at all. You had every right to leave him in God's eyes and in the eyes of man. It breaks my heart that he did all this while you were home with the children too.

As wounded as you are, I will tell you that not every man is like your ex-husband. Please don't give up on men. I know you think you're in love with Warren Jeffs, but I will bring up the word "satisfied" again. Don't decieve yourself into thinking he is capable of satisfying you. His plate is FULL! You deserve to be the apple of someone's eye, my dear!

Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

3:23,

You're right. I should be thankful for what I have. My husband and I have been faithful to one another all these years. I am so sorry that your husband abused your trust and your body. There is no excuse for a man to do that to a woman. I believe a man who is capable of cheating on his family and beating his wife is not a man at all. You had every right to leave him in God's eyes and in the eyes of man. It breaks my heart that he did all this while you were home with the children too.

As wounded as you are, I will tell you that not every man is like your ex-husband. Please don't give up on men. I know you think you're in love with Warren Jeffs, but I will bring up the word "satisfied" again. Don't decieve yourself into thinking he is capable of satisfying you. His plate is FULL! You deserve to be the apple of someone's eye, my dear!

Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

3:23,

You're right. I am thankful for what I have. My husband and I have been faithful to one another all these years. I am so sorry that your husband abused your trust and your body. There is no excuse for a man to do that to a woman. I believe a man who is capable of cheating on his family and beating his wife is not a man at all. You had every right to leave him in God's eyes and in the eyes of man. It breaks my heart that he did all this while you were home with the children too.

As wounded as you are, I will tell you that not every man is like your ex-husband. Please don't give up on men. I know you think you're in love with Warren Jeffs, but I will bring up the word "satisfied" again. Don't decieve yourself into thinking he is capable of satisfying you. His plate is FULL! You deserve to be the apple of someone's eye, my dear!

Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you kindly for your compliment. I like your reference about, "the apple of the eye" I know all men are not like my exhusband. there are more like him, than I want to know. I have met some men, who have been good to me. How ever not all of them did stop, this abuse, that this other man, did do, to me. Warren Jeffs did. Thank you kindly for your curtosy. I do apreciate your opinion's.

Anonymous said...

To the 7:32 pm poster.That 15 yr. old cousin you were talking about Warren going after.Was that a young girl or a young boy that you know about?

Anonymous said...

Do you know something?

Anonymous said...

8:24,

I was speaking about his young wives,not about him molesting anyone, although one could argue that taking a 15 year old girl away from her family to be a wife is molestation.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like somebody has to keep some sort of a calendar for the men with lots of young wives....who is ovulating when, and set up some sort of schedule, with time and place, for insemination. Kinda like out on the farm. Whoever keeps the calendar has a lot of power.

Anonymous said...

to 5:04
what makes you so negative about "plig" women. Do you know any personally? Have you actually met any face to face and had someone say to you, this is a woman who is in a plural relationship? I'll bet you haven't. You have probably drawn your conclusions about us the same way alot of people do. Going purely on what you read and hear,and not on your own invesigative powers of getting out there and meeting some of us. My guess is you really couldn't tell on looks alone, that we were any different from the rest of the female population. Just like women all over the world there are some of us who are truly beautiful and some of us that fall way short of beauty in a worldly sense, but most of us are somewhere in between.We all have the same desire, to have someone who truly loves us for who we are and not the way we look.I wonder if you are among those who set the standard of femine beauty so high that only few women ever reach it and many die trying to. "plig" woman and proud of it!

Anonymous said...

ya, hang out in the grocery store for a while and you see and wide range from ugly to uglier!!! the hair goes from strange to stranger!

Anonymous said...

To "plig" woman and proud of it:

The essential beauty of any human being is their character. The physical flower fades quickly and leaves the real substance of the character to shine forth.

You speak words of wisdom girl, it's what's inside that counts to God, and any other god-like person. You can ignore the rest, for you understand the true essence of beauty.

Anonymous said...

Thank you anon:2:51 for your kind words.It is so wonderful to know that there are so many kind and friendly people in this world. God bless you all. "plig" woman

Native Utahn said...

As a native Utahn, (no, not everyone in Ut is a polygamist) I would like to apologize to the great state of Texas, for not dealing completely and appropriately with Mr Jeffs and clan. These people are a fringe group, and they crave isolation. Ask them why. It's easier to indoctrinate children without outside scrutiny. Ask them why they chose to relocate their community? The Attornies General of Utah and Arizona, just recently began prosecuting Bigamists from Hildale and Colorado City. Perhaps Texas will have the courage and wherewithal to continue the prosecution of FLDS reactionaries since Utah and Arizona have been unable/unwilling to do it. While they hide under the guise of (un) constitutionality, and (false) doctrinality, they perpetuate servitude on their women and children at the hands of sexits and racists. Good luck Texas. I hope you don't let them get away with it like Utah and Arizona did for almost a century.

Anonymous said...

To 4:59 PM:

When the Mormons were driven out of Kirtland, Ohio and Independence and Far West, Missouri, and Nauvoo Illinois, I'm sure many of the good citizens of the Country thought:

[That] "they [were]hide[ing] under the guise of (un) constitutionality, and (false) doctrinality, [that]they perpetuate[d] servitude on their women and children at the hands of sexits and racists." [4:59 PM]

So, hooray for the mobocrats. Why not round up all Mormons while your at it, like they did back then, in the good spirit of the mobocrats version of the Constitution of course. Or maybe there is a better way--let the law take its' course for the sake of Constitutional honor and integrity.

Anonymous said...

I lived in ST George Utah for almost 3 yrs. Plogamy is indeed alive and well. It is very hard as a women to watch little girls at the grocery knowing full well they have no say in their future. I knew one polygamist wife who was told she could leave but couldn't have her childern. It happens and those that think it doesn't don't really know.