Friday, March 25, 2005

Another media frenzy

I understand that we can expect another flurry of national media coverage, this time on April 6. Is Flora Jessop behind all this? That girl really loves the cameras.

54 comments:

Anonymous said...

You can not beleive a thing Flora says. She is an apostate and jealous for the life she left behind

Anonymous said...

My opinion is that Flora IS doing her best to draw attention to herself.

She tells a story that nobody in the FLDS community wants told, thus giving unwanted attention to a community that abuses women and children for the purpose of self-gratification. Every moment she spends in the spotlight threatens the FLDS and she knows it.

GO FLORA!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yea, she crying all the way to the bank!

fence sitter said...

Flora is just pissed at everyone, she tried to take my husband in the bushes when they were young, he didn't go for it and after that she was forever calling him names.....gee sounds familiar to what she is doing now.

Anonymous said...

sounds like you just got off the fence, fence-sitter.

Anonymous said...

2:18, anyone who keeps up on the stories Flora tells to the media will see in short order that she lies. Each story is more exagerated than the last. She wants people to think she is the authority on the FLDS. The fact is, she left Colorado City before the FLDS church existed. She probably has never met
Warren Jeffs yet she seams to know his every thought, deed and intent. She knows very well that much of what she says about the community as a whole is absolute lies. She was a troubled child and is still troubled. Her object is to be famous no matter how many people she has to destroy to get there. I don't care if she can help bring Warren down to size but she is hurting a lot of innocent people who definitely do not abuse women or children for any reason.

Anonymous said...

I read something about a scam being run out of Colorado City & Hildale where a company was supposedly extracting gold from cinders. Anyone have any info on this? Did the media ever cover it? What kind of cinders? Did anyone go to jail?

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:49:

Do a google search on Dynamic American Corporation.

You will find it all there.

Anonymous said...

Flora is the modern day jezebel read what happened to jezebel

Anonymous said...

I have some advice for Flora. When you really want to fix something, you have to do it from within. As unpopular as it may seem, you will never fix a thing in the FLDS by being a foul mouthed activist that has started chain smoking. You can only blame so much on the FLDS, but sometime in your life you are going to have to take a look at yourself in the mirror and wonder out load how you can set a better example than the one that was set for you.

Anonymous said...

4:41 The media don't care who tells the lies. If they can't find someone to say something then they just make it up. They should be working with this chap Warren instead of against him. He can stand up and in his most holy way proclaim that Rohbock, Blackmore and Barlow were master decievers, do a few sacred grunts, some long pauses, brush a tear, yearn a minute, blow his hallowed nose, and then go laughing home to his harem. Sounds like he studied journalism. Everyone believes it.

Anonymous said...

WOW!! I think 7:41 made that one as clear as it can get!

Anonymous said...

From all of the media coverage involving Flora that I have observed, she always comes up with the worst case scenerio, wild allegations but has yet to bring any evidence forward to bring the church leaders down, that I have seen or heard about. Does all activist involve the media in their crusade?

Anonymous said...

OK I'm going to weigh in with my two cents. I also grew up in "The Creek" like Flora. Like Flora, I also disagree with the way things are run now and absolutely disagree with Warren Jeffs. However, I can tell you that Flora is a categorical, pathological liar and that she has suffered from this problem from childhood. I know, because I went to school with her. She even stole from the man who took her in!

Anonymous said...

Flora is just like the Debbie Palmer we have been plagued with here in the North. Both of these Gals are feeding off media attention. Debbie has bilked the government out of thousands of $s. She is now teamed up with a group of seven activists from the West Coast who claim they are former members of the Bountiful Community Lie, Lie, Lie, I identify them as "Debbie and her ARIAN sisterhood of seven". Their whole goal is to harrass and discriminate against people who are different.

Anonymous said...

In regard to Flora:

The sensational hype that Flora contrives pales in comparison to her own post Short Creek life.

As a recovering cocain addict and former topless dancer, not much that exudes from her diahrea mouth is even near credible.

Her own abusive lifestyle and dissolusioned history is her worst enemy. It's easier for her to point the finger of scorn at others, than to look into her own weathered character and see if maybe there is a little room for self improvement.

Unfortunately, Flora feeds on excitement and attention. If she was even quasi-literate she might get a job at the Enquirer or other pulp fiction rag that entertains her level of intelligence. She certainly can spin a sensational yarn.

Get ready Texans. Here comes Flora . . .

Anonymous said...

Topless dancer!!!!Whoe Sounds like she is the queen of morals.Eldorado send her down the road. Lets give yfz ranch folks a vote of confidence. Thanx Guys.

Anonymous said...

You guys pretty sure on this "topless dancer" thing?

I ain't never heard of that before.

Has somebody confronted her on that? What did she say?

And don't they screen dancers for good looks or something? Who let her slip through?

Anonymous said...

You're making me think of images I don't want to think about.

I'd better wash my brains out with soap.

Anonymous said...

What does a person who leaves your society do for money? Does the education and upbringing provided give these young people the tools to cope and prosper in the world they've been taught to fear? How do they deal with the isolation after leaving the only family they were ever allowed to know?

jb

Anonymous said...

I believe it was the Salt Lake City Trib that did a story on her and revealed her past history, got to watch what you say to the press Flora, nothing is off the record.

Anonymous said...

Attention Eldorado! When you get tired of reading all this bull, Miss Bertha has started a new blog at:

http://missbertha.blogspot.com/

You remember her, she was the gossip columnist everybody was talking about.

Ha ha ha!!!!

Anonymous said...

To "jb" who had the question about what girls do who leave "our" society: They COULD get some education and get on with a full and productive life, as I have done since I left, or they could become professional victims and proficient liars as Flora has done. She left long before college age and she could have obtained scholarships or grants and become something. But she CHOSE to become what she is. As, I believe, every person does, regardless where he or she was raised.

Anonymous said...

. . .and p.s. "jb": Flora was allowed to know other family. She had an aunt in Missouri she went to. But she probably burned her, too. And by the way, the family that she had in "The Creek" would not, at that time, have alienated her but for the fact that every time she came around she burned them.

And a p.s. to the 8:41 am blogger who thinks that Flora's problems automatically give creedence to the YFZ people, GET A CLUE! Just because she is a liar doesn't make them good people. Warren definitely has WAY too much power and is ruining a lot of good people. Let's try to seperate the issues here.

Anonymous said...

I would point out to you, that hate Warren Jeffs and blame him for your problem's. He is building a city, in pert near a year, with his honest follower's. I think people are blaming him for their own problems. There was no secret's in our church. They all know the rules nad agreed to them. I think we all need to be responsible, for our action's. We are not a fighting peaple. At least the one's that love Warren Jeffs are not. A lot of people seem to hate us. Why you look at the people that think he destroyed them, look also, at the one's, who love him, and build city's for him. That should answer some question's about how we can work.

Anonymous said...

Well lets look at that from another view point. Warren says if you love him, you do whatever he says, right? And so if you do whatever he says and he has control over your every action, he has much need for you so he will bless you to keep you around for the time being. Anyone who dares stand up for themselves are shelfish in Warren's eyes and are not worthy of any blessings at all. Does this really appeal to you? If so than that is your right and you can go through life as a mind contolled minion of Warren's communism influenced plan. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee people. Warren's faithful followers are so busy trying to obey all of Warren's teachings that they have forgotten the ten comandments and the basic laws of God! We are praying for your lost souls ye followers who have been led astray by Warren. Hope the best for you all.

Paladin for Truth said...

If Warren would just start living the Priesthood Work again, like he was taught and grew up with, he could do so much more than he is trying to do now. He is actually a really nice guy, he just seems to have forgotten, what made the people in Short Creek, who they are. He is well versed in the history of Joseph Smith. He listened well to the teachings of his father, Rulon Jeffs. He listened well to the training of Uncle Roy. He spent most of his life training young people in these teachings. While most of Warren's brothers were partying, he was studying and preparing for another school year. There was a time when Warren did not have many friends, because he kept the things out of his life that Uncle Roy said not to have in your life. He was a fine example for many years, yet when his father had his stroke, Warren started to discard all that he was.
Warren knows the story of King Noah in the Book of Mormon, who demanded 1/5 taxes from his people. He knows the story of the people who worked hard to build the temple in the days of Alma and then were told they were dressed too poor to enter into the temple, when it was complete. He knows the stories in the Book of Mormon, wherein the great men, were wise enough to tell the people they needed judges, not a king, yet Warren has made himself king. He knows of the wickedness in Sodom wherein they would trade wives around 4 times a year, yet he has women that are on their 3rd or 4th husbands. He knows that Uncle Roy taught that "we cannot give you a release". He has heard his father say that a girl does have the right to wait, if she feels she is not ready for marriage yet. He has seen hundreds be forgiven for their weaknesses by his father. He has said publicly that he has been forgiven as well, he knows that this is correct to forgive the youth and encourage them. He can quote more items from more books from all of Mormonism from its start, more than most people you will find alive today.

I believe even now, Warren could be truly great, if he would just step back and look for a minute.

He would see that all the attributes of Mormonism are gone from his new FLDS church. He would see that his church is nothing like what Joseph Smith taught or practiced. He would see that his members are trying hard to love him, but have many conflicts as they know deep in their hearts, that things are not right.
So maybe someone who can talk to Warren could suggest stepping back and taking a look for a minute. I know this will take courage, for if you question him in his condition now, he will strip you clean as can be.

Good Luck

Anonymous said...

I love this site, I like to hear people's oppinions without the media twisting it into what they want.

Anonymous said...

Flora sure does sound a lot like Debbie Palmer. What do Debbie and Flora gain from all these lies, Is there realy that much money in it?

Anonymous said...

In answer to 6:58 AM:

Sure there's money in sensationalist so called news.

The National Enquirer has proven that a certain portion of America is quite interested in alien's having group sex with Madonna.

Ben Bistline has done very well with his Enquirer history as well.

Anonymous said...

Debbie Palmer is no liar, and she sure isn't getting rich. She lives in poverty, barely scraping by. But she is determined to expose the truth about the crimes and abuses of power done in the name of God by Warren Jeffs, Winston Blackmore, and the men who carry out their orders.

Debbie is called a liar by the men she has exposed, but truth has a way of coming out in the end, despite the efforts of Warren and Winston to spin the facts and obscure the truth behind a fog of propaganda.

These days Uncle Wink has cast himself as a white knight who never intended to do wrong--he claims he only married all those underage girls and did all those bad things to all those people in Canada because Warren forced him to. Yeah, right.

Sad thing is, the Utah Attorney General and most of the other prosecutors are so desperate to put Warren behind bars that they have swallowed slick Winston's sales job and believe his line of BS. Uncle Wink is angling hard to take over the UEP as soon as Warren's out of the picture, you can count on it. And government officers are helping him do it.

Luckily, brave gals like Debbie Palmer are doing their best not to let Wink get away with it. The evil in Warren is obvious for anyone to see. Uncle Wink is a snake-oil salesman who hides his evil behind a veil of charm and false modesty. He ain't quite as despicable as Warren, for sure, but that doesn't mean Winston isn't a very bad man. He needs to be punished for his crimes. He needs to go to jail. Thanks to Debbie and a few other gals like her, one day he probably will.

Anonymous said...

Debbie has admitted to people that she intentionally set her house on fire. I think we should put the looking glass on her for a second. After she is in prison for her crimes, we can move the looking glass to Winston and check out his crimes. As for the UEP, I don't believe there will be anything for Winston to control. Warren will do what he can to destroy it, before he will let anyone else control the UEP.

Stinger said...

9:17, You aren't by any chance Debbie Palmer are you? Do you really think she hasn't made any money off her book she wrote about her sex life? No royalties off her mockumentary "Leaving Bountiful" People want to hear dirty little secrets about other people's lives so bad, they will buy up any smut the old biddie writes, all the while disregarding the fact that she admitted to trying to kill herself and her children by fire.
Is that the work of a sane person?
I grew up around the time before she left Bountiful and we all thought she was the meanest old hag you could ever meet. Every child I know of avoided her like the plague. In fact, back in them days, we used her name as an insult to call other children we were mad at. If you want a candidate for a child abuser take a look at her.
Also... What bad things did Winston do to the Canadian people, and what is your source? If you are just getting all your info from Deb's book you need to have your head examined.

Sad step son said...

If there was any abuse in Bountiful it was from debbie palmer. When I was nine she sat on me for half an hour. After I called her a SOB then she started preching the gospel to me. She always beat my brothers and sisters little kids feared her big kids hated her. I have mentol problems still from her sitting on me. I always wanted run away or kill myself when she was married to dad. Then she burnt the house down in boutiful and left dad. it still bothers me with all the abuse she did. She admits to burning the house you can find it on Globel Tv.It is called leaving boutiful.

Sad step son said...

If there was any abuse in Bountiful it was from debbie palmer. When I was nine she sat on me for half an hour. After I called her a SOB then she started preching the gospel to me. She always beat my brothers and sisters little kids feared her big kids hated her. I have mentol problems still from her sitting on me. I always wanted run away or kill myself when she was married to dad. Then she burnt the house down in boutiful and left dad. it still bothers me with all the abuse she did. She admits to burning the house you can find it on Globel Tv.It is called leaving boutiful.

Sad step son said...

If there was any abuse in Bountiful it was from debbie palmer. When I was nine she sat on me for half an hour. After I called her a SOB then she started preching the gospel to me. She always beat my brothers and sisters little kids feared her big kids hated her. I have mentol problems still from her sitting on me. I always wanted run away or kill myself when she was married to dad. Then she burnt the house down in boutiful and left dad. it still bothers me with all the abuse she did. She admits to burning the house you can find it on Globel Tv.It is called leaving boutiful.

Anonymous said...

I have read a lot of Debbies articles and I can tell you that She does so lie. Not everything she says is a lie but most of it is.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Media...

KSL 1160 in Salt Lake apparently has a tape of the reclusive leader Warren Jeffs.

It was recorded by an "insider" with a hidden microphone.

They are going to air portions of the tape on Tuesday 3/5/05.

Listen to the internet stream Here.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Media...

KSL 1160 in Salt Lake apparently has a tape of the reclusive leader Warren Jeffs.

It was recorded by an "insider" with a hidden microphone.

They are going to air portions of the tape on Tuesday 4/5/05.

Listen to the internet stream Here.

Anonymous said...

Could you give us some help in figuring out how to hear that? I couldn't find anything about Jeffs on that page.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, great question.

KSL Radio ran a promo saying they would play it on Tuesday 4/5/05.

The link above is just streaming audio if you want to listen on Tuesday...

I'm sure they will also have a story posted that day. I'll post a link to it when it is there.

Anonymous said...

I thought I heard that it was 4-1-05 AM newsshow it was going te be on.

Anonymous said...

Note to 6:58 blog Yes these gals find ways of making money off of their lies and bitterness. They are professional victims. Flora has been petitioning donations for all the good work she is supposedly doing in saving the young people. Debbie is providing information to the government ministries. She was paid $20,000.00 to make a report outlining who was married to who, and mapped out where each polygomous family lived. Debbie has applied for a $70,000.00 grant to make a report on how polygomy affects the lives of women.

Anonymous said...

KSL radio will be playing portions of the tape on Tuesday (4/5/05) during the morning news.

They are also planning to send a reporter to Eldorado on Monday (4/4/05) to do live reports.

Anonymous said...

It is written, You will have to stand with total cay-os around you. The war is upon us. It is written God will protect the faithful. may you be one of the faithful. It is written, leave judgment to me, sayeth the Lord of Hosts. I love you all. I hope you all can sit on the right hand of Christ, in your apointed hour. Wiston Blackmore knows if he does right or wrong. God also knows. and that goes for all. We only live once, on this earth. May you all live accordingly, to have no shame, in the precence of our Lord, and savior Jesus Christ.

fence sitter said...

DICTIONARY WOMAN!!!!
DICTIONARY!!!!!!

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Native Texan said...

Anon 4:07,

What "war" are you referring to?

Just curious.....

Anonymous said...

It is written in the book of morman. This war began in the middle east. It does spread. I think it is written in Alma. I will have to go read, and look up the references for sure. It is also written in the bible. I was reading this in the bible, last night. I will have to look at the chapter, before I say for positive. Joeseph Smith also told of this War. It is upon us. America, is set up in pride. They send armies over to plunder other people. It is spreading. It is written, China will attack the east coast. Russia on the west. No man will come against Zion. To Zion will flee all who will not pick up the sword. It will be a refuge. There will be mobs go through and plunder. Non will escape. Only the one's who call upon the Lord and Savior Jesus will be protected. It is written, he will protect the faithful. The Faithful being the honest in heart. In the city of Ephrium, If you have forsaken your Lord, your sorrow, will be greatest. You made a covnet with this Jesus, not to fight. YOu have made a covnent to protect and honor. It is written, California will sink into the sea. It certianly has a lot of mud slides and earth quakes. Read the books. If you want the truth. REad the books. The Lord has alowed the word to be written, and go forth. A person can interprit scripture, to justify his evil, or his good. Jesus's law is the same. Return good for evil. pray for those who despitfuly use you. In every religion, Jesus's law is the same. If you do evil, you there fore are evil. If you do good you there fore are good. It is written, be ye, there fore perfect as your father who is in heaven. He did the best he could. No man can do better than their best. There fore if you do your best, you are in his Kingdom. Unless you want to intirprit, his words to do evil. you there fore are evil. Every Man knows if he does evil. every man knows if he does good. If you do good, it is accompinied by a good feel. if you do evil you are possesed with an evil feel. This is called a consience.

Stinger said...

Sad that once all the refugees get to warren's ne Zion they will be told to get lost. You don't want the people who's destruction you have been praying for to be near by.

Anonymous said...

Fence sitter, you SLAY me! You realize, of course, that you are speaking a different language to a deaf wall when you suggest the usage of the dictionary. Sorry! However, it DOES provide fodder for some hilarious comments! Keep them up, just for me. Please?

fence sitter said...

to anon 1:22am ya, I'm a laugh a minute, of course those minutes only happen between the hours of tired and super tired, but thanks I'll keep my "witty" and "sarcastic" remarks coming ;-)

individual identity said...

So, it's April 6th... what's happening?

Anonymous said...

NOTHING.......HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!